why do knockbacks not work?

AndromedaB - Sanctuary
AndromedaB - Sanctuary Posts: 1,376 Arc User
edited February 2009 in Wizard
i was just wondering why the will of the phoenix doesn't work in duels
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  • Zzathenazz - Lost City
    Zzathenazz - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Maybe cause it's sposed to be PVE?
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  • Adroit - Lost City
    Adroit - Lost City Posts: 4,628 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    knockbacks would make it impossible for any melee chars in the game.. best way to keep distance is just to distance shrink away.. :)
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  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    If knockbacks worked in pvp, wizards and mostly archers would just get people killed by monsters. You could push people into a boss or just mobs. Would be effing ****.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Mosabi - Heavens Tear
    Mosabi - Heavens Tear Posts: 378 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    but hella cool.

    Why drag the boss all the way to safe zone push the players to him b:laugh

    plus if it worked in PVP then no BM or Barb will be able to raise his hand against a wizard the 30 meter push back will be just sick...
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  • Zzathenazz - Lost City
    Zzathenazz - Lost City Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Like I said, it's supposed to be PVE. But, it would be SO AWESOME!
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  • RapiBurrito - Heavens Tear
    RapiBurrito - Heavens Tear Posts: 35 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    That's one thing Dev's should give us to improve our chances to survive.

    But NO, they like us beign gimped ^^!
  • Tryangle - Lost City
    Tryangle - Lost City Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Don't forget the knockback also doesn't work in FBs past 19...which REALLY sucks.
  • Lumpia - Sanctuary
    Lumpia - Sanctuary Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Be nice to see it enabled in Territory War... but just another one of my wishes in game.. and the other is Mana conservation skill hehe things that will not be implemented im sure lol.. ohh well life of a wizard :P we just gott deal with it! Keep on chugging those mana pots!
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    ive yet to chug a mana pot though :( but I would cream myself if they made a mana shiled spell, like absorb such and such damage and every damage after that cost 20 mana, last such and such seconds.... that would rule!
  • KarmaXIce - Sanctuary
    KarmaXIce - Sanctuary Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    AndromedaB - Sanctuary wrote: »
    i was just wondering why the will of the phoenix doesn't work in duels

    LMFAO omg your the one going around WCing that im noob i lure boss blah blah blah Q.Q AND YOU ASK A QUESTION LIKE THAT?!? I see you are really just some alien that tries to act like they are important. Whisper me talking about you whispered just to tell me i am a loser than needs a life and that i am the first to be blacklisted by you after you WHISPER ME? <_< omg keep that pk mode on like you try to do your **** will get dropped.
    AndromedaB :"i was just wondering why the will of the phoenix doesn't work in duels"b:bye
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    ive yet to chug a mana pot though :( but I would cream myself if they made a mana shiled spell, like absorb such and such damage and every damage after that cost 20 mana, last such and such seconds.... that would rule!

    You guys already have distance shrink, don't ask for a winged shell/plume shell :P
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Tryangle - Lost City wrote: »
    Don't forget the knockback also doesn't work in FBs past 19...which REALLY sucks.

    It does, on some mobs, just not all.
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  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Skyannie - Lost City wrote: »
    It does, on some mobs, just not all.

    I've seen them work on mob A and then not work on mob A, indicating that it may be a chance thing?

    I refuse to believe that they only work on certain mobs, since I've knockbacked some mobs and it didn't work the next few times I tried.

    Anyone else got any input/ideas in regards to this?
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    I've seen them work on mob A and then not work on mob A, indicating that it may be a chance thing?

    I refuse to believe that they only work on certain mobs, since I've knockbacked some mobs and it didn't work the next few times I tried.

    Anyone else got any input/ideas in regards to this?

    Many mobs in FB's have similar animations, perhaps you should read the name closely. Then, some fb mobs tend to move kinda fast, so it could've been one of those moments.
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    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Hm, might need to run some tests on this.

    Not to discredit you or anything but where'd you get the KB works on mob A and not mob B thing? I wouldn't mind seeing a list of which mobs can be KB'd and which can't.

    Perhaps I could maybe start such an experiment? (though I'd probably die in fb 51 onwards lol)
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Hm, might need to run some tests on this.

    Not to discredit you or anything but where'd you get the KB works on mob A and not mob B thing? I wouldn't mind seeing a list of which mobs can be KB'd and which can't.

    Perhaps I could maybe start such an experiment? (though I'd probably die in fb 51 onwards lol)

    FB51 has such particular mobs, the dwarf Maguses can be knocked back if I'm correct. The warriors, however, cannot, and they look almost alike. I haven't done the fb in a while, so I'm not entirely sure which type of dwarf it is, but yeah.

    Don't think you should spend too much time getting that type of info, other than just learning it on the spot and using it later on. It's kind of hard to memorize the name of mobs, so it's easier to get hands-on experience on it and learn it that way.
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    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Suppose you're right then. I'll keep the info from you in mind and see how it pans out in future FBs. Thanks, Skyannie.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Lumpia - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Be nice to see it enabled in Territory War... but just another one of my wishes in game.. and the other is Mana conservation skill hehe things that will not be implemented im sure lol.. ohh well life of a wizard :P we just gott deal with it! Keep on chugging those mana pots!
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You guys already have distance shrink, don't ask for a winged shell/plume shell :P

    poof 30 meters, or absorb dmg? absorbing dmg sounds a bit more fun b:laugh


    ....and then I woke up b:cry
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    Suppose you're right then. I'll keep the info from you in mind and see how it pans out in future FBs. Thanks, Skyannie.

    You're welcome. b:victory
    As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    You guys already have distance shrink, don't ask for a winged shell/plume shell :P
    20 seconds sound better than the 3 seconds of safety Blink offers if you intend on fighting back.


    Not that you can in a fight with an archer, if you blink away they're also out of your range... it'd be nice to have a skill making us able to TANK rather than run. And no, Earth Barrier doesn't count, 1.5*junk is still junk.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    20 seconds sound better than the 3 seconds of safety Blink offers if you intend on fighting back.


    Not that you can in a fight with an archer, if you blink away they're also out of your range... it'd be nice to have a skill making us able to TANK rather than run. And no, Earth Barrier doesn't count, 1.5*junk is still junk.

    Direct contradiction, mages aren't tankers, and I beg to differ, even 100% is a good bonus.
    As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Skyannie - Lost City wrote: »
    Direct contradiction, mages aren't tankers, and I beg to differ, even 100% is a good bonus.
    There's a difference between tanking a few hits and suicide. We don't have ANY staying power against a lot of other classes if they aren't idiots.
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Skyannie - Lost City
    Skyannie - Lost City Posts: 351 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    There's a difference between tanking a few hits and suicide. We don't have ANY staying power against a lot of other classes if they aren't idiots.

    We do at level 90... that's why if such a tanking skill were added, though it can't be, mages would be a hax class.
    As only the child that I was, I tread with giants.
    Their footprints on the sand, marked for times immemorial, serve as evidence of hope.
    And though my short legs could not keep up, my heart was always by their side. Conqueror.
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    but not many would make it if they made it a lv 89 skill, because most wizards seem to quit before level 60, not many have the patience to push that long, but im content with this, almost shat myself when i bugged out near EB lake and my wiz didnt show in my char list for 15 mins >.>
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    but not many would make it if they made it a lv 89 skill, because most wizards seem to quit before level 60, not many have the patience to push that long, but im content with this, almost shat myself when i bugged out near EB lake and my wiz didnt show in my char list for 15 mins >.>

    lol, well if there is an explicitly stated skill screaming "USE SKILL TO TANK ALL CLASS FOR A FEW SECONDS - req lvl 89" lots of players starting out will go mage and try **** through the pre 89s.

    I agree with Skyannie that if wizards do get a skill to take some abuse, it'll be a broken class. Massive damage AND tankability? eh?
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Kristoph - Lost City wrote: »
    20 seconds sound better than the 3 seconds of safety Blink offers if you intend on fighting back.


    Not that you can in a fight with an archer, if you blink away they're also out of your range... it'd be nice to have a skill making us able to TANK rather than run. And no, Earth Barrier doesn't count, 1.5*junk is still junk.

    While I admit that shell and shrink are different, giving wizards a shell would be far too imba imo. I mean, yes shrink is not the best and you'd have to run when faced with difficult situations (or not that difficult xD) but if hypothetically you had both...all you do is pop shell, and start casting away and if it gets too dangerous, shrink away. Sounds pretty imba to me there. Or what, shrink into the Archer's fragility distance and pop shell up?
  • Kristoph - Lost City
    Kristoph - Lost City Posts: 2,016 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Legerity - Sanctuary wrote: »
    While I admit that shell and shrink are different, giving wizards a shell would be far too imba imo. I mean, yes shrink is not the best and you'd have to run when faced with difficult situations (or not that difficult xD) but if hypothetically you had both...all you do is pop shell, and start casting away and if it gets too dangerous, shrink away. Sounds pretty imba to me there. Or what, shrink into the Archer's fragility distance and pop shell up?
    Well hey, an archer can cast shell and stand there, and stun/paralyze when it gets really dangerous. What's the difference? Other than the fact that the wizard is running and the archer would be disabling the other. And then there's Wings of Grace, too...
    Wondering how much longer these **** packs are going to be around.
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    are you implying that archers are broken? xD
  • streaker
    streaker Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    Yes, lets get you fixed... *takes legerity to vet* cya in a few hours :)
  • Legerity - Sanctuary
    Legerity - Sanctuary Posts: 1,072 Arc User
    edited February 2009
    streaker wrote: »
    Yes, lets get you fixed... *takes legerity to vet* cya in a few hours :)

    careful, I bite >.> <.<
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