For Wizards Only(unfair game)

Mosabi - Heavens Tear

If you are a wizard and want to nag about how this game is unfair to you either PVE or PVP wise this is the place for C'mon get it out of your system.

Talk about how that 10lvls lower BM won in a duel or how did that barb one hitted you or even how you die after 4th stike with a mob or the fact that you are the least wanted class in squads that your friends never call you for fbs and such.

As I sayed C'mon get it out of your sytem.

Illusion - Heavens Tear

Talk about how that 10lvls lower BM won in a duel

You will lose in duels if your not kiting them.

barb one hitted you or even how you die after 4th stike with a mob

Charms and citrine shards will fix that problem.

you are the least wanted class in squads that your friends never call you for fbs and such

If you arent being called upon for squads or FB runs then something is wrong with your friends. Wizards are the 2nd highest damage dealers at your level and from what I understand 80+ wizards surpass archers in damage output.

I love playing a wizard, for me it is the most challenging class in the game to play. What fun is a game if your not challenged?

Arthiex - Lost City

Illusion - Heavens Tear wrote: »

You will lose in duals if your not kiting them.


Charms and citrine shards will fix that problem.


If you arent being called upon for squads or FB runs then something is wrong with your friends. Wizards are the 2nd highest damage dealers at your level and from what I understand 80+ wizards surpass archers in damage output.

I love playing a wizard, for me it is the most challenging class in the game to play. What fun is a game if your not challenged?

mmm miss/ sir
Mosabi Mosa has kind of right

somehow wizards are kind of weak
we are great nukers but casting is really slow
i got problems that i got killed before i can cast my spell
casting is to slow Vs Archers , clerics
maybe you have some advise for these?

my build is pure mag to try to make max damage as possible

and abou using charms not everyone can afford spending charms

about fbs YESb:shocked bad friends he could join FB_ HElp channel
to join fbs when ppl need

Evancer - Heavens Tear

Illusion - Heavens Tear wrote: »

What fun is a game if your not challenged?

Quoted for freakin' Truth!

djinnzen

Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

If you are a wizard and want to nag about how this game is unfair to you either PVE or PVP wise this is the place for C'mon get it out of your system.

Talk about how that 10lvls lower BM won in a duel or how did that barb one hitted you or even how you die after 4th stike with a mob or the fact that you are the least wanted class in squads that your friends never call you for fbs and such.

As I sayed C'mon get it out of your sytem.

man u are such a noob crybaby go play a diffrent class if u thnk wizards are so weak

Illusion - Heavens Tear

we are great nukers but casting is really slow

For mobs I suggest your biggest hitter spell that the enemy is weakest to then switch between pyrogram and gush till the mob is dead.

i got problems that i got killed before i can cast my spell

I have to agree that wizards just plain suck in PvP but from what I understand this changes level 80+ as we have the ability to one shot other players if we are a pure/nuke build.

casting is to slow Vs Archers , clerics

Archers and clerics are the 2 strongest classes in PvP in my opinion. The only real work around I can think of is this:
Cast Essential Sutra, Force of will and your biggest hitters in succession and hope they fall before they get a couple shots off on you.

my build is pure mag to try to make max damage as possible

I am a pure build as well. Citrine shards are a must, invest in them and get at least average's in your equipment.

and abou using charms not everyone can afford spending charms

Level 50+ DQ items NPC for a real nice price. Spend a couple hours, farm and sell DQ drops. Go to West district and purchase charms from the cat shops. You don't have to be rich or cash shop to get charms in this game.

zlan

i think it would help a little if the mage had another teleport skill that teleported them away from the enemy to give them cast time anybody agree???

odb

cry some more mages are one of the best pkers around since they can 1 hit most melee characters as similar level. at max level a mage has well over 2x the damage of an archer which is the next highest damaging class. archers 30-40% critical will narrow the gap but mages still outdamage them. comparing a mage to a melee class and the difference in damage is insane.

Mosabi - Heavens Tear

odb wrote: »

cry some more mages are one of the best pkers around since they can 1 hit most melee characters as similar level. at max level a mage has well over 2x the damage of an archer which is the next highest damaging class. archers 30-40% critical will narrow the gap but mages still outdamage them. comparing a mage to a melee class and the difference in damage is insane.

yeah the damage is great comparing one hit to another but the time it takes to make a good hit it would propaply be the same time the other player would have dealt a stun or atleast 3 hits which is more than that hit I am yet to see what the no channling spell can do to a PVP so am just judging from my 3 months play time so far and the reason I will not change the wizard is that I inviseted so much time and money in this one to change it and am stiking to it to the end.

WindGaurdian - Sanctuary

Dont worry wizards are AWESOME!!!

I have seen their power. I always want them in my squad.

Jestersig - Heavens Tear

zlan wrote: »

i think it would help a little if the mage had another teleport skill that teleported them away from the enemy to give them cast time anybody agree???

A wizard does have a skill that teleports them a short distance forward called distance shrink. It's very useful to get out of range of a pker or mob quickly.

Calliope - Heavens Tear

zlan wrote: »

i think it would help a little if the mage had another teleport skill that teleported them away from the enemy to give them cast time anybody agree???

Pro tip: press the "s" key to turn around, then use Distance Shrink. Whoa, you just teleported away from the mob, how elite of you. b:victory

also

Mosabi - Heavens Tear wrote: »

for god sakes I die atleast 4 timed a day which = 2 hours of grinding to make it up = not enough time to lvl up fast.

How is that even possible? I only die in FB/TT wipes these days.

Also, how is a mob hitting you FOUR times? That's terribad. Start with Gush to slow the mob, and you should be able to kill it before it gets near you (another Pro tip: don't start casting near mobs, start at max range). If it's a melee mob, you can even knock it back with Phoenix before it gets a hit in, you should be able kill those without taking any damage at all. Decent gear + citrine shards means I can take easily 7-8 hits from magic mobs (not that they ever get more than 1). Ranged physical mobs are a pain, but if you ahve to Morning Dew after every couple of mobs, that's fine.

Disclaimer: once Jones's Blessing runs out, you might have to actually be careful, and ranged physical mobs are always a pain (gush is still amazing on them though).

But seriously, I just don't get all the Wizard complaints. I've never had much trouble myself.

Nayiro - Sanctuary

From what I hear, Wizards are bombs in PVP and PK (if they get first hit) , not so much duals (at least against a Fist BM).
But like every other game mages/wizards QQ too much.

GloveMaster - Sanctuary

Wizards are insanely powerful I take a wizard with me any time I go on a FB run I don't see why you are complaining about them. You usually one shot in PvP also so... quit complaining lol!

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear

I'm not a wizard and I won't play one ever. But . . . I jsut wanted to say ... Mosa I you! Whisper me more often you crazy Wizard. xD

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear

Calliope - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Pro tip: press the "s" key to turn around, then use Distance Shrink. Whoa, you just teleported away from the mob, how elite of you. b:victory

also

How is that even possible? I only die in FB/TT wipes these days.

Also, how is a mob hitting you FOUR times? That's terribad. Start with Gush to slow the mob, and you should be able to kill it before it gets near you (another Pro tip: don't start casting near mobs, start at max range). If it's a melee mob, you can even knock it back with Phoenix before it gets a hit in, you should be able kill those without taking any damage at all. Decent gear + citrine shards means I can take easily 7-8 hits from magic mobs (not that they ever get more than 1). Ranged physical mobs are a pain, but if you ahve to Morning Dew after every couple of mobs, that's fine.

Disclaimer: once Jones's Blessing runs out, you might have to actually be careful, and ranged physical mobs are always a pain (gush is still amazing on them though).

But seriously, I just don't get all the Wizard complaints. I've never had much trouble myself.

Calli, we know that you're an amazing Wizard! You need to teach Mosa and Draco a thing or two!

<333 Ultra.

Kaenor - Heavens Tear

I dont wanna bother you, but if you wanna make an fb/TT run, feel to free pm me, if i online. Btw i dont complain wizard problems, all classes has the flaws, only need to use your all benefit (high damage, kiting, etc) to compensate that.

Sweaty - Heavens Tear

Yeah the trick is to kill the mob before it gets to you. If you dont have its health really low when it is close enough to attack then run. A good wizard has to know when to run.

Arthiex - Lost City

WindGaurdian - Sanctuary wrote: »

Dont worry wizards are AWESOME!!!

I have seen their power. I always want them in my squad.

WindGaurdian You are Awesome too ^__^

and Illusion thanks for the info So it is worth staying Pure mag b:chuckle

btw I saw one player called Illusion In Lost city.. =o
could that be you too...?

Arthiex - Lost City

Sweaty - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Yeah the trick is to kill the mob before it gets to you. If you dont have its health really low when it is close enough to attack then run. A good wizard has to know when to run.

Totaly agree ^__^
when it looks bad you can feel death comingb:shocked
and we got 2 options

-Safed on time..b:laugh
or
- X-X BUSTED!!! b:cry ...dead...

Jrudora - Lost City

I don't find my wizard weak at all...
Hell... PvE wise, I enjoy the good old blade tempest + emberstorm (quick tap) combo.... every once in a while its just fun.

As a wizard, you gotta know how to kite, how much damage you take, and how well you can tank magic mobs.

You think we got it bad?
Look at the poor blademasters having to deal with taking a magic hit on most mobs after 60 before they can run in and start fighting? My friend had to use his leap everytime he sees a new mob in hopes he isn't nuked once first.
We tank magic like mad

But yes, pvp wise we are a little weaker. Wait until undine strike though, that + force of will changes everything.

+... pk wise.... we're a little above some other classes...
Its not as bad as you think!

What I dislike though is that we just get interrupted way too much during boss fights! :P

AdriaOrici - Heavens Tear

WindGaurdian - Sanctuary wrote: »

Dont worry wizards are AWESOME!!!

I have seen their power. I always want them in my squad.

so have i. its crazy.

Gwendolynne - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I'm not a wizard and I won't play one ever. But . . . I jsut wanted to say ... Mosa I you! Whisper me more often you crazy Wizard. xD

someones being very random...XD


wizards arent the only sad ppl with low hp. clerics arent very strong either, and no wide range of nukes early on. at least wizards have a wide range to choose from.

Erinis - Heavens Tear

Arthiex - Lost City wrote: »

mmm miss/ sir
Mosabi Mosa has kind of right

somehow wizards are kind of weak
we are great nukers but casting is really slow
i got problems that i got killed before i can cast my spell
casting is to slow Vs Archers , clerics
maybe you have some advise for these?

my build is pure mag to try to make max damage as possible

and abou using charms not everyone can afford spending charms

about fbs YESb:shocked bad friends he could join FB_ HElp channel
to join fbs when ppl need

Comeon, wizards have knockback atacks, and i rarely see mobs to reach him before die unlike clerics whitch have lower dps and high casting times and must tank mobs for while.

Drazo - Heavens Tear

Erinis - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Comeon, wizards have knockback atacks, and i rarely see mobs to reach him before die unlike clerics whitch have lower dps and high casting times and must tank mobs for while.

Those spells are only good for saving yourself about 1 - 3 hits once in a while unless they get stopped by a solid object or something then it's much less. Will of the phoenix is great for metal melee mobs though; in fact with the right combinition of spells and timing of the phoenix spell you can pretty easily kill normal metal melee mobs even a level above yourself without getting a scratch, or at most getting hit once.

Cheaper - Heavens Tear

just keep leveling up.

at this point that bm that used to beat me in a duel, now dies in 1 hit.

Scarag - Heavens Tear

Mosabi,

All you have to do is just keep working on your Wizard. Get to where I am at with all my level 59 Transendent spells and you will start to notice with sutra you are getting much better. Also the 3 damage spells make a great bang.

I no longer feel like I belong to the weakest class. Wizards just improve compartivily to the other classes over time.

Get to Cheaper's (shown above) level you will start to notice that. In PvP all they will see is "You were killled by WizardName" after one explosion from a spell.

Dauthus - Sanctuary

I love being a wizard! lol

Kinda opposite of what this thread is about, I know...

You just gotta find out what sequence works for you and use Will of the Phoenix/Distance shrink wisely. As of right now, I can kill melee mobs 3 lvls higher, and they get one, maybe two hits on me, max. It's the aggros that'll get you if you're not watching. lol Same lvl melee mobs stand no chance and rarely get close enough to even swing at me.

As far as dying, I don't die often at all, as in not even once a week. In all 45 of my lvls, I can probably count the number of times I've died on one hand. lol

In Dueling, I've beaten a same lvl archer (it was close, but I did it three times), and managed to get a higher lvl Barb (not in Tiger form) down to almost half HP before I lost. This was in Secret Passage, so I didn't kite (due to aggros), it was toe to toe. I'd say that's not too shabby. Then again those were the only four duels I've ever done (all while waiting in the hall for the rest of the fb29 party), so yeah... lol

Also, I never have any issues getting into an FB party. The tanks love the dmg I do as it saves them some HP when they're not being chewed on for so long. People also love having mages along for elites too for the same reason.

All in all, it is important how you play a "pure" wizard if you want to get the most out of it and maximize your survivability. All in all, wizards aren't weaker, just more challenging.

De_Caf - Heavens Tear

i got problems that i got killed before i can cast my spell
casting is to slow Vs Archers , clerics

if cast time is a bit of a problem for u, as a wiz, try using skill / macros, i dont play a wiz, but have a cleric and veno, and use macro, and find it saves a lot casting time, and i think u would too, if u hit r then down the bottom where it says edit new n such u hit new, then drag what casting skill u want mainly use or for the time being, the u have a range of icon to choose from, the when done hit save, and try it out, might find ur casting time isnt so slow then ...... = )

Xenesis - Lost City

at higher lvl you can afford -% chanting gear, also if want to duel pk nead to learn to kite. Max earth shield, shrink try to lvl up silence skill then can pvp +-, when you play a wiz must know you will not be realy strong till get 89+b:surrender