Oct 31-Nov 02 TW

Hong - Heavens Tear

So, how are things for you guys? TW is getting intense and fun I know for a fact that it's getting dangerous for lands.

So much for Elysium being cocky huh? Thought you guys said we'd be destroyed less than 30 minute. I was actually laughing on how each of you guys were doing your own things. Absolutely no team work at all. Your threat and cockyness didn't get you nowhere but a self own. I guess your 40 level 70+ died to our players pretty fast. Not to mention Kenji, the leader was dying from our level 50 Venomancer. Sigh, I guess it's time to actually HH for your guild instead of being full of yourself *cough*.

If you guys haven't realized after we saw how much of a joke you guys were we were sending our random Barbarians with Catapults to see how far they get. They got all the way to your base, blowing each turret up. Not to mention, a single Barbarian totally almost destroyed one of your base towers. Oh lol, not to mention he was level 51...

Did you realize we didn't have full force for the first 30-1h though? They were at our second territory

Anyway, that's my TW. Best part was everyone going emo and your own director asking if we were accepting applications. I could go far worse, this isn't even one bit.

PS - I posted on the wrong section, but whatever

I'm interested in hearing about Lost City though, seems like TW is getting instense over there too? I know LC players are far more hardcore than HT thus is why I'm interested in looking at LC. Always checking their results/bids compare to HT.

Lenablade - Heavens Tear

b:chuckle Im not doing too bad and gratz btw on both TW glad to hear you wiped Elysium across the floor teach em to be cocky and self centered

Evoken - Heavens Tear

I admire you xD

I hate those high lvl cocky people

t0yo

Territory War of RQ vs Panic: http://www.rqclan.com/vids/stream/RQTheatre.html

Not all territory wars are this fast and boring. Panic is just really bad because they are 90% archer based

Maiya - Lost City

At the moment, it's pretty much been guilds eating other guilds. RQ eating Panic's territory. BloodLusT eating AxeGang's territory. Conqueror eating UnLimited's territory. And most of those guilds being eaten go to a blank land or attack another land to regain some land temporarily for funding I guess.

Hong - Heavens Tear

Maiya - Lost City wrote: »

At the moment, it's pretty much been guilds eating other guilds. RQ eating Panic's territory. BloodLusT eating AxeGang's territory. Conqueror eating UnLimited's territory. And most of those guilds being eaten go to a blank land or attack another land to regain some land temporarily for funding I guess.

Wait wait, I thought AxeGang was competitive same as UnLimited? So there's no real action and TW ends extremely fast for Lost City?

Devoted - Lost City

Hong - Heavens Tear wrote: »

Wait wait, I thought AxeGang was competitive same as UnLimited? So there's no real action and TW ends extremely fast for Lost City?

Axegang and unlimited are both competitive. 2 weeks ago unlimited held conq off for 2.5 hours but lost then they beat vengeance a day later, vengeance merged into conqueror making them even more powerful and flying was introduced last week so unlimited got stomped in 15 mins. that week also bloodlust attacked axegang and being more powerful flying helped them win in 15 mins. this week unlimited i heard got conq's crystal to 50% before conq won and axegang got stomped in 12 mins. ragequit is destorying panic and im expecting some merges soon

my guesses:

panic -> unlimited
axegang -> conqueror

Naris - Heavens Tear

Evoken - Heavens Tear wrote: »

I admire you xD

I hate those high lvl cocky people

No RoC has high level cocky people.

The problem is... they're skilled high level cocky people. So it's more confidence than cockiness maybe?

Maiya - Lost City

Panic from what I heard has gone to UL, and some members split off to RQ or other guilds. Probably only a matter of time till Axegang goes to Conq.

cryucry

sorry to hear that the TW in the pve server isn't up to your satisfaction. you should give lost city a run, its far more fun, there's serious bad blood between the guilds and that's pretty evident during TW. adds a whole new dimension.

Clunker - Heavens Tear

Naris - Heavens Tear wrote: »

No RoC has high level cocky people.

The problem is... they're skilled high level cocky people. So it's more confidence than cockiness maybe?

well Elysium is overconfident.. wargasm saying they gonna crush us in 30 minutes? psh...a lvl 60+ barb saying he was gonna pawn the RoC "noobs"? isn't that cockiness right there?

just serves them right. RoC has never bragged about anything that we have not proven.

t0yo

Panic-> Unlimited? I heavily doubt that. At least with their core party. I doubt anyone wants those ignorant players.

We had a ceasefire they broke a few days ago because of an arrogant member. Thought apparently things are being fixed.

The way I think its going to go down in TW is it boiling down to RQ, Conq, BL. If conq gets out of the picture its probably going to be either us vs BL and either ruling all the tw map just like in pw-my with both guilds expressed is something we do not want.

Other Scenario is with conq out of the picture, other guilds are allowed to take land to make TW competitive. I'm thinking 6-8 guilds owning territories on the map with more then 1 territory to each guild.

Things never happen as planned though and all I'm doing is personal speculation

Hisui - Heavens Tear

cryucry wrote: »

sorry to hear that the TW in the pve server isn't up to your satisfaction. you should give lost city a run, its far more fun, there's serious bad blood between the guilds and that's pretty evident during TW. adds a whole new dimension.

drama = new dimension in gaming.

Deity - Lost City

Ok, I can fill in the gaps here for LC if anyone is kind enough to introduce HT a bit to me.

Basically, LC started with Conqueror, BloodLusT and Ascension as the main guilds. During the first few weeks, Conqueror is the undisputed top guild followed by Ascension and BloodLust respectively.

Conqueror was the first guild in PWI to take land during the week TW was introduced. Ascension was very close and got the boss down to 8% before time ran out. All other guilds didn't even bother with TW. Conqueror invaded BL during the 4th week and due to no flying and that everyone was 6x, they were no match for the towers which pretty much 1 shotted everyone. This turn of an event leveled the playing field in regards to the number of lands each guild have. I believe Conq, Bl, RQ, Asc, Unlimited, HolyHell, Vengeance and AG all had 3 land after the war. Soon Bloodlust and Ascension declared KOS on Conqueror.

However, during the 5th weeks, HolyHell fake bidded Ascension and soon afterwards, due to internal drama, Ascension disbanded all almost all former members joined BloodLust. This made Bloodlust the top guild numbers wise for one or two weeks. Later Unlimited declared war on Vengeance and Conqueror, as a result, declared war on Unlimited. Both Unlimited and Conqueror won resulting in Vengeance merging into Conqueror.

So basically right now, the main guilds are Conqueror and BloodLust. RageQuit is keeping up land wise but they have not faced any real opponent. Both Conqueror and BloodLust have reached 180 million in strength a few weeks ago while RageQuit only achieved 82 million this week after gaining 10+ members from Fusion.

To recap this week's war briefly, BloodLust overwhelmed AG in 10-15 minutes as only 30 AxeGanG members showed up for war. Unlimited took Conqueror by surprise and took 1/3 of the Crystal down as Conqueror didn't build any towers and everyone rushed to attack. Conqueror recovered fairly quickly and the rest was a slaughter, ending the TW in 20 minutes.

The outlook of the future of LC depends on whether if BloodLust can successfully invade Conqueror. If they fail in their invasion, they will turn to RageQuit and we will have a 2-sided war in the future. If they succeed in capturing Conqueror's land, they will steamroll through the entire map. The same applies to Conqueror as if they can take BloodLust's land, the entire map will be their's for the taking.

The difference in strength between every other guild and Conqueror & BloodLust is so vast that you can combine the rest of the server and they will not be able to bring one of these two guilds down. Personally, I hope the struggle between the two sides continue or future TW will become very boring and meaningless.

And thats about it. So can anyone briefly explain the sitation at HT for me?

Devoted - Lost City

t0yo wrote: »

Panic-> Unlimited? I heavily doubt that. At least with their core party. I doubt anyone wants those ignorant players.

We had a ceasefire they broke a few days ago because of an arrogant member. Thought apparently things are being fixed.

The way I think its going to go down in TW is it boiling down to RQ, Conq, BL. If conq gets out of the picture its probably going to be either us vs BL and either ruling all the tw map just like in pw-my with both guilds expressed is something we do not want.

Other Scenario is with conq out of the picture, other guilds are allowed to take land to make TW competitive. I'm thinking 6-8 guilds owning territories on the map with more then 1 territory to each guild.

Things never happen as planned though and all I'm doing is personal speculation

I think there will never be a guild with tons of land. Once TW gets underway and ppl arent afraid of bidding on bloodlust and conqueror no guild can defend 3 lands at the same time every week non stop. with no fake bidding TW might actually be fun and the map will be changing constantly.

oh and....

UnLimited Marshal
Shinzoko



next axegang -> conq

Hisui - Heavens Tear

Whoa Deity, that was a really good rundown of LC. I'll try to explain HT but I don't know what's going down in other HT guilds as much as you know about other LC guilds.

HT basically began with three pretty strong guilds TheEmpire, Radiance, and Evolution. High levels aside these guilds were the first to make level 3 so basically they have a number advantage over the rest. During the first week of TW TheEmpire and Genesis attacked. TE was only able to clear 1 road and bring the boss down to some 80% before time ran out. Genesis supposedly gave up in the first hour. Second week TE and Evolution was able to take down the first territories in HT.

There was an early conflict between Radiance and TE but that quickly resolved as the conflicting members in Radiance broke off from the guild for being PK addicts. These members formed Cyanide, then disbanded quickly to form another guild; Elysium. Third week Elysium and Radiance joined the map. These four guilds were stationed rather far apart. Elysium in East, Radiance in NW, Evo in NE, and TE in SE. Two more weeks of PVE TW went after that. Other guilds like RavenHawk, Genesis, Dragons, RoC, and ViTaLiTy were able to get lands.

Internal conflicts in TE caused many high lvls to leave to form a new guild called Helios. But after getting outbid in TW some members eventually returned to TE while many decided to join various other guilds in HT. This sort of balanced out the powers a bit. For the most part, the core roster of each guilds were stable.

First PvP TWs came right after RavenHawk's high levels decided to join TE. RoC was able to go in and finish off RH in less than 10 mins in the first HT successful invasion. That same week Genesis won the first defensive PvP against another guild.

In the following weeks, Elysium and RoC wiped off ViTaLiTy from the map while Genesis wiped off Dragons using questionable tactics as you probably have read in the forums here. In the last TW, TE's leader decided Genesis' tactic was a cheap shot and invaded Genesis, which ended in a TE victory after some grueling 90 minutes. That same week, RoC unexpectedly (at least imo) held off the stronger Elysium. Along with some internal issues and the demoralizing loss, Elysium has a leadership makeover with many of its members leaving to join Evo, TE, and probably Radiance. It is really hard to say what will happen in the future as Genesis/TE and RoC/Ely from this week were the only not-completely-lopsided TWs so far in HT. Next week will be much more interesting I'm guessing.

Maiya - Lost City

Hisui - Heavens Tear wrote: »

These members formed Cyanide, then disbanded quickly to form another guild; Elysium.

Man, I miss the old core Cyanide from closed beta. We were so small but we were happy.

Very nice synopsis, both Hisui and Deity.

t0yo

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

Ok, I can fill in the gaps here for LC if anyone is kind enough to introduce HT a bit to me.

Basically, LC started with Conqueror, BloodLusT and Ascension as the main guilds. During the first few weeks, Conqueror is the undisputed top guild followed by Ascension and BloodLust respectively.

Conqueror was the first guild in PWI to take land during the week TW was introduced. Ascension was very close and got the boss down to 8% before time ran out. All other guilds didn't even bother with TW. Conqueror invaded BL during the 4th week and due to no flying and that everyone was 6x, they were no match for the towers which pretty much 1 shotted everyone. This turn of an event leveled the playing field in regards to the number of lands each guild have. I believe Conq, Bl, RQ, Asc, Unlimited, HolyHell, Vengeance and AG all had 3 land after the war. Soon Bloodlust and Ascension declared KOS on Conqueror.

However, during the 5th weeks, HolyHell fake bidded Ascension and soon afterwards, due to internal drama, Ascension disbanded all almost all former members joined BloodLust. This made Bloodlust the top guild numbers wise for one or two weeks. Later Unlimited declared war on Vengeance and Conqueror, as a result, declared war on Unlimited. Both Unlimited and Conqueror won resulting in Vengeance merging into Conqueror.

So basically right now, the main guilds are Conqueror and BloodLust. RageQuit is keeping up land wise but they have not faced any real opponent. Both Conqueror and BloodLust have reached 180 million in strength a few weeks ago while RageQuit only achieved 82 million this week after gaining 10+ members from Fusion.

To recap this week's war briefly, BloodLust overwhelmed AG in 10-15 minutes as only 30 AxeGanG members showed up for war. Unlimited took Conqueror by surprise and took 1/3 of the Crystal down as Conqueror didn't build any towers and everyone rushed to attack. Conqueror recovered fairly quickly and the rest was a slaughter, ending the TW in 20 minutes.

The outlook of the future of LC depends on whether if BloodLust can successfully invade Conqueror. If they fail in their invasion, they will turn to RageQuit and we will have a 2-sided war in the future. If they succeed in capturing Conqueror's land, they will steamroll through the entire map. The same applies to Conqueror as if they can take BloodLust's land, the entire map will be their's for the taking.

The difference in strength between every other guild and Conqueror & BloodLust is so vast that you can combine the rest of the server and they will not be able to bring one of these two guilds down. Personally, I hope the struggle between the two sides continue or future TW will become very boring and meaningless.

And thats about it. So can anyone briefly explain the sitation at HT for me?

You're right. I'd also like to deliberate on the situation on LC through art

http://artpad.art.com/gallery/?k9qy1b14vf54

Enjoy ;D

dekciw

ZzZ delete feature is broken.

dekciw

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

To recap this week's war briefly, BloodLust overwhelmed AG in 10-15 minutes as only 30 AxeGanG members showed up for war. Unlimited took Conqueror by surprise and took 1/3 of the Crystal down as Conqueror didn't build any towers and everyone rushed to attack. Conqueror recovered fairly quickly and the rest was a slaughter, ending the TW in 20 minutes.

That's probably one of the lamest excuses I've heard from you but still, not a bad summary.

lilly90

i don't think it's the lamest excuse there is still the weather conditions ^_^ great war tho and nice summary

Deity - Lost City

Well warmachine,

I don't know but Unlimited should be able to tell you that the attack came within 3 minutes of the war and lasted only 3-4 minutes. Unless we were level 6x and they were 9x, there is no way they can take down over 1/3 of the Crystal in such a short amount of time. The only plausible explanation is that there were no towers and almost no one defending the base.

I am really impressed by Unlimited's strategy. I admit we were over confident but luckily we didn't pay dearly for this lesson. When I learnt that there was not a single tower in base, I was like b:shocked. But haha anyways, this type of thing shouldn't happen again, or at least I'd hope not

And to t0yo,

Funny how you showed me a drawing instead of a screenshot of me actually dying ingame. Whats next? Pandora posting the screenshot in which I died 1on6 but he claims to be 1on1?

Saw Pandora at spiders twice yesterday, and both times ran faster than a level 11 mount when he saw me. b:chuckle

Furthermore, Column, image, Ara and DarkTears ganked me 4on1 but DarkTears got 1 shot. Column sleeped me and instead of hitting me, all three ran to safe -.-"

Column talk more smack in safe zone and had the nerves to duel me. Whined I USED POT in duel when I used my 1 spark sprint. Tries to sleep me and watched as I 2 shot him. Darktears decided to try his luck and got 1 shot again.....

Please, leave the PvP and drama to the big boys. At least BloodLust got Flamez, Yoshiki and warmachine who are actually challenges. RQ just tries to act big but fails in every single way. Barely anyone in your guild is 8x, no one has any decent gear and your only WB is 76 or 77. So who gave you the position to talk? Here, grab a ball and go play elsewhere.

lilly90

you know what?i'm actually starting to like Deity ,,gosh i must be having a fever or something O.O lol
edit: leave toyo out of it though ! he is nice ;3

t0yo

Seriously I don't know why you rant about your deaths so seriously. We've ganked you, you've ganked us. In mass pvp you've been killed and we've been killed. The god complex really doesn't work.

Furthermore, Column, image, Ara and DarkTears ganked me 4on1 but DarkTears got 1 shot. Column sleeped me and instead of hitting me, all three ran to safe -.-"

Its called zhenning. Archers usually watch movies or do something else whilst leaving them attack so bragging about killing a party zhenning is really nothing out of this world. Also the fact that you brag about killing a full int robe lvl 7x priest? You know for a warrior thats really not a big deal.

I'd like you to try to pvp with HulkHogan but he's not into wasting time with nonfactors

Please, leave the PvP and drama to the big boys. At least BloodLust got Flamez, Yoshiki and warmachine who are actually challenges. RQ just tries to act big but fails in every single way. Barely anyone in your guild is 8x, no one has any decent gear and your only WB is 76 or 77. So who gave you the position to talk? Here, grab a ball and go play elsewhere.

Lol funny how you use a quote pandora used himself a while ago when we ambushed your party @ a wraith event in tusk town. All you kept saying was "Omg mystic you ganked me! Don't brag" You know, hypocrisy, a very ironical thing.

Oh nice failing @ Dreaming Clouds yesterday, let me be the first to thank amiable for the sweet drops. Keep calling GianHo and AxeGang to do your bidding, thats all you're good at ;D

P.S lilly if you haven't noticed it seems Deity is trying to butter Unlimited up after their proclaimed Ceasefire with BL. I suppose conq, or should I say Deity is running out of frandz :'c

Deity - Lost City

Seriously I don't know why you rant about your deaths so seriously. We've ganked you, you've ganked us. In mass pvp you've been killed and we've been killed. The god complex really doesn't work.

Ganking is part of the game and I get ganked all day long. Heck, if I want to prevent dying, there is not a single person on the server who can kill me no matter how long they chase me. So the only way i die is by ganking and trust me, I am used to it. But to try to pass a ganking SS as a 1on1 SS like Pandora tried to do? Sorry, but only he is pathetic enough to do that.

Its called zhenning. Archers usually watch movies or do something else whilst leaving them attack so bragging about killing a party zhenning is really nothing out of this world. Also the fact that you brag about killing a full int robe lvl 7x priest? You know for a warrior thats really not a big deal.

You fail at reading, big time.

They came to me, and thats why its so funny. 4 on 1 and they lost, IN AIR. Wonder what happens if I stun and AOE them all on the ground :P

And I am not bragging about killing a 7x EP. Its the fact that he thought I USED POT thats so funny. Its so ironic to call me a noob when he got NO CLUE at all about PvP. Trying to sleep a WR who used sprint? Good job. Accusing me of using pots when he got 2 shot? Good job.

Oh nice failing @ Dreaming Clouds yesterday, let me be the first to thank amiable for the sweet drops. Keep calling GianHo and AxeGang to do your bidding, thats all you're good at ;D

And you talk about hypocrisy?! We called Axe and Giangho? And yet you neglected to mention 90% of your team consisted of BL? So let me say this: Keep calling BloodLust to do your bidding, thats all you're good at ;D

P.S lilly if you haven't noticed it seems Deity is trying to butter Unlimited up after their proclaimed Ceasefire with BL. I suppose conq, or should I say Deity is running out of frandz

Why? You think we are going to give Unlimited their land back? b:laugh

lilly90

who said that we want them back O.O what you guys never got that it's ok to us if we lose lands, first we lose one and get one :P second we have fun in tw and train our peoples , third we learn and adapt fourth: we get to clean up the guild "thanks alot for that btw" , tw is a big aspect of this game o.O but losing a land isn't the end of the world :P it maybe is for you , but not for us ^_^ , proof is, other guilds got outbidded or lost a land once and they merged with the winning team , we lost lands 3 times,and we are still here ^_^, says something doesn't it ? , i'm proud to be in the only guild that has the heart NOT to kiss butts even BL didn't dare to attack you and you didn't dare to attack them :P anyhows ;3even with your levels we got your crystal down to 2\3 of it's health ,and in a matter of mins as you said :P , who knows ^^

t0yo

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

Ganking is part of the game and I get ganked all day long. Heck, if I want to prevent dying, there is not a single person on the server who can kill me no matter how long they chase me. So the only way i die is by ganking and trust me, I am used to it. But to try to pass a ganking SS as a 1on1 SS like Pandora tried to do? Sorry, but only he is pathetic enough to do that.

When its group pvp its not necesarrily referred to as ganking though. As far as I know you and Grim had a pvp match @ silverpool. Who won?

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

You fail at reading, big time.

They came to me, and thats why its so funny. 4 on 1 and they lost, IN AIR. Wonder what happens if I stun and AOE them all on the ground :P

You fail at pulling off sutras thats how they one shot you lol. I think it was Ordain xD

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

And I am not bragging about killing a 7x EP. Its the fact that he thought I USED POT thats so funny. Its so ironic to call me a noob when he got NO CLUE at all about PvP. Trying to sleep a WR who used sprint? Good job. Accusing me of using pots when he got 2 shot? Good job.

Your world chats said the total opposite. Something along the lines of "HAHAHAH EP LOST TO ME" b:shutup

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

And you talk about hypocrisy?! We called Axe and Giangho? And yet you neglected to mention 90% of your team consisted of BL? So let me say this: Keep calling BloodLust to do your bidding, thats all you're good at ;D

pvp at silverpool you and unlimited group up on us a few weeks ago. Word travels around of pvp and when BL find out theres some they usually come in, especially if they know you're there. Dreaming clouds was no different

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

Why? You think we are going to give Unlimited their land back? b:laugh

No you just want to propose an absorption probably. Otherwise you'll just be blocked again and your guild will eventually be wiped off that factor map. You guys should have dropped your land the first few weeks and come straight for us. Or at least tried to absorb the Panic remnants, would have given us a bigger incentive to move towards your lands for some fun

Deity - Lost City

nyhows ;3even with your levels we got your crystal down to 2\3 of it's health ,and in a matter of mins as you said :P , who knows ^^

Like I said, it was a mistake on our part. You guys had 1 chance and you blew it. We had no one and no tower there, if you can't take our crystal then, how can you guys take it in the future?

After we defended our base, it only took us one wave of attack to end the TW.

When its group pvp its not necesarrily referred to as ganking though. As far as I know you and Grim had a pvp match @ silverpool. Who won

I said 'wait' and turned around before he killed me, didn't I? And after res, everyone clearly saw I was out of a hp charm. Yesterday at dreaming asked him to duel again, and he said his computer was laggy O_O

You fail at pulling off sutras thats how they one shot you lol. I think it was Ordain xD

You had the wrong incident....it was way after I clicked on wrong sutra. And no that was not 1 shot. I have 7k HP, 3.8k dmg barely ticks me.

Your world chats said the total opposite. Something along the lines of "HAHAHAH EP LOST TO ME"

Again you fail to read. I shouted "HAHAHAHAHA COLUMN SO PRO" followed by "WR Sprint = Anti-stunpots?"

PLEASE R-E-A-D

pvp at silverpool you and unlimited group up on us a few weeks ago. Word travels around of pvp and when BL find out theres some they usually come in, especially if they know you're there. Dreaming clouds was no different

If you got BL, then why complain when AG joins in for some fun? Hypocrite?

No you just want to propose an absorption probably. Otherwise you'll just be blocked again and your guild will eventually be wiped off that factor map. You guys should have dropped your land the first few weeks and come straight for us. Or at least tried to absorb the Panic remnants, would have given us a bigger incentive to move towards your lands for some fun

Erhm, sorry but our guild is full for all the 5x and 6x Unlimited.....We might take their 8x, but oh wait, don't think they have many, if any ;/

Devoted - Lost City

oh btw deity, epic fail at butterflies on me lol... sucks when a 5 con EA can kill 20 of you guys and die once cause u used dragon :PPPP

Deity - Lost City

????

We **** at Butterfly and we took over fish and you are here to tell me this? b:surrender

PS: You can ask Yoshiki who he lost 5 straight times to. Also please tell Stariss, a level 86 EA, to stop getting 1 shot - twice at fishes a week ago and once yesterday at dreaming.

BTW, you think you are better than both of them? I suppose not....

Devoted - Lost City

Deity - Lost City wrote: »

????

We **** at Butterfly and we took over fish and you are here to tell me this? b:surrender

PS: You can ask Yoshiki who he lost 5 straight times to. Also please tell Stariss, a level 86 EA, to stop getting 1 shot - twice at fishes a week ago and once yesterday at dreaming.

BTW, you think you are better than both of them? I suppose not....

Lol deity give me the money you have spent on this game and ill kill you before my heiro ticks. I have yet to waste a cent on this game and I know it must be frustrating knowing that you still blow with good gear...