True Face of Empire

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  • Cheaper - Heavens Tear
    Cheaper - Heavens Tear Posts: 128 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    video proof,

    or a bunch of posts with only words b:puzzled


    video says what happened.


    p.s. seriously, dont bring up stuff about getting pked. go blue name if you dont want to be pked. Simple as that.

    don't cry over something you chose to become(a white name target).
    omg im posting stuff.
  • Reikara - Heavens Tear
    Reikara - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,321 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    This is why I didn't join any of world chat abusing guilds.

    I could tell what you all were like just by reading it. And an Esylium member telling me
    and another guild leader to gather our level 40+s members to join his and ditch our guilds only did more to **** me off.
    And I dont care if you have "World domination"

    Very insulting.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • lazor
    lazor Posts: 36
    edited October 2008
    Like i said in some many threads before...we r just giving back to Elysium what u all started 1st when we were a little lvl 1 guild and u guys ks pked us. and btw that vid does not show anything or at least i cant see names quality is bad..but nice try.. Stop being so jelous of us..stop bothering us and well do the same.

    If that was An Empire member i apolize for the ks..we dont ks, but the hatred u have instilled in the empire members due to your childish ways, petty arguments, ksing, and pking, not to mention every chance u get to try and downgrade us like this thread for instance has made us start to retailiate. If your harressment tactics stop..then so will we.
  • imahotfrog
    imahotfrog Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    lazor wrote: »
    Like i said in some many threads before...we r just giving back to Elysium what u all started 1st when we were a little lvl 1 guild and u guys ks pked us. and btw that vid does not show anything or at least i cant see names quality is bad..but nice try.. Stop being so jelous of us..stop bothering us and well do the same.

    If that was An Empire member i apolize for the ks..we dont ks, but the hatred u have instilled in the empire members due to your childish ways, petty arguments, ksing, and pking, not to mention every chance u get to try and downgrade us like this thread for instance has made us start to retailiate. If your harressment tactics stop..then so will we.
    Elysium started late as a guild, we weren't created till theempire was lvl 3 already. Your false accusation fails.

    Please read the threads created by ur own guild, KyuX has said himself that he did KS me, and also denied that he trained mobs into me. Which is funny because I am still uploading the video because it is very big in size.

    From your response it is obvious that theempire offciers do not tell it's guild members what they really do, you say you do not allow ksing, but your officiers do it. I guess what they told u about Elysium was also false. We as a guild were only created roughly 3 weeks ago. How we are able to "pk" and "ks" you guys before we existed is beyond me.
  • kyux
    kyux Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    imahotfrog wrote: »
    Elysium started late as a guild, we weren't created till theempire was lvl 3 already. Your false accusation fails.

    Please read the threads created by ur own guild, KyuX has said himself that he did KS me, and also denied that he trained mobs into me. Which is funny because I am still uploading the video because it is very big in size.

    From your response it is obvious that theempire offciers do not tell it's guild members what they really do, you say you do not allow ksing, but your officiers do it. I guess what they told u about Elysium was also false. We as a guild were only created roughly 3 weeks ago. How we are able to "pk" and "ks" you guys before we existed is beyond me.

    Can't you read english? I said you died trying to take our mobs... read it carefully...
  • Maiya - Lost City
    Maiya - Lost City Posts: 2,686 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    *eats popcorn*

    Mmm, drama.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • Parren - Heavens Tear
    Parren - Heavens Tear Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    LMAO Elysium the bisggest ksers on the server started to cry that some1 is doing that to them this is hilarius and phatetic
  • shinichi
    shinichi Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    h0mey wrote: »
    Move along Elysium. thx

    sad to see you guys cry cause you lose in pvp fights, cause you know we are the better guild :)

    dont bother replying to them, i was expecting elysium at least to be a guild to have respect for, now spreading lies on forums about empire (cause they cant stand we are the better ones)

    next time if you have good proof, make a vid where you can see them arriving and ksing you, they where there before you

    first of all, we are just telling the truth about what empire does. we do have respect to others. but, because we have respect to others, we are telling what empire does. so that you know what actually you are doing and if your are talking about respect. tell it to yourself.
    TheEmpire = Whole guild meaning 150+ people~

    Evidence = 5 people

    Good job~

    but it's ok~ we can handle the rumors. It's our fate~ Destiny~ Being famous is about getting a lot of rumors about us~

    Rumors = Not a fact, just an opinion

    being famous by talking bad of others guild and u feel that you are the best guild? b:chuckle
  • Moander - Heavens Tear
    Moander - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    I'm not Elysium, nor Empire.....

    The video shows:
    A crackhead running around with no obvious clue......our 'star' of the video...
    A white tiger appears, PASSES a mob the 'star' of the video is evidently heading towards.
    A few other toons arriving....
    The 'star' crackhead see's he has company, and blows an AOE to possibly claim all mobs in the area, not content with just one.....
    I see a white tiger laying back for a bit.....
    I see multiple people killing mobs.

    Yea, the video, and the screenshots, show: NOTHING !!!!

    For what it's worth, I wouldn't pee on a Elysium if they were on fire. THEY are the biggest lot of KS'ers on this server, period. They run around like they own the place, evidently not remembering this is a game that OTHER people would like to enjoy also......

    Our clerics are on a NO REZ for Elysium.......I sit on their face when possible, in beast form.. hopefully VERY smelly and unwashed......when I find them dead...

    Great rep Elysium.... alot of people OTHER than Empire feel this way.....you may keep the kids enthralled, but you wont last when a REAL faction gets going here, whether it's mine or someone elses.....
  • Feraldreamzz - Sanctuary
    Feraldreamzz - Sanctuary Posts: 374 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Seriously, all this is doing is making both guilds look bad.

    I think Empire should have taken the high road and ignored the post (or make just one comment if you felt the need to defend yourself). But instead, the two guilds keep putting each other down, which says a lot about the two guilds.

    Will one of the guilds please take a mature stance, and walk away from this garbage?
  • Moander - Heavens Tear
    Moander - Heavens Tear Posts: 40 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Seriously, all this is doing is making both guilds look bad.

    I think Empire should have taken the high road and ignored the post (or make just one comment if you felt the need to defend yourself). But instead, the two guilds keep putting each other down, which says a lot about the two guilds.

    Will one of the guilds please take a mature stance, and walk away from this garbage?

    Agreed.... IMO, order of things....

    OP gets with an officer of Empire, discusses the issue.
    Empire Officer goes:
    A: I see, we'll take look into and take care of this issue asap, thank you for bringing this to our attention OR
    B: heh, lrn2playnubsausage kthxbai

    Either way, you can bet that wasn't done....

    KS'ing sucks, it's a bad game mechanic, but, it IS what it IS. Stop doing it.
  • Shortyred - Heavens Tear
    Shortyred - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    The video differently shows the archer KSing no argument there. But KSing happens by mistake and on purpose all the time that's something we all gotta deal with.But the OP said that they draged a mob to him and killed him thats differently grieving on a PVE server and could lead to a suspension or a band if he reported it and proved it . That's the truth and there's no need to argue about that .
  • Shortyred - Heavens Tear
    Shortyred - Heavens Tear Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    The video differently shows the archer KSing no argument there. But KSing happens by mistake and on purpose all the time that's something we all gotta deal with.But the OP said that they dragged a mob to him and killed him thats differently grieving on a PVE server and could lead to a suspension or a band if he reported it and proved it . That's the truth and there's no need to argue about that .
  • lazor
    lazor Posts: 36
    edited October 2008
    Seriously, all this is doing is making both guilds look bad.

    I think Empire should have taken the high road and ignored the post (or make just one comment if you felt the need to defend yourself). But instead, the two guilds keep putting each other down, which says a lot about the two guilds.

    Will one of the guilds please take a mature stance, and walk away from this garbage?

    Elysium was once Cyanide and also a part of RAdiance (a few of u ) you constantly bad mouthed us, pked us, ksed us when we were a little lvl 1 guild and could NOT defend ourselves. its the same people in Elysium now that r doing this. And u no who u r. We WILL retaliate to every now Elsyium member that was once Cyanide and Radiance members When u stop your ksing, pking, bad mouthing etc then so will we. I find it very suspicious that u had the camera ready to tape...set-up? I wouldnt put it past u..after all this is ur style. Once again The Empire has been put into a position to defend themselves against your slanders. I will repeat this once again.. We DO NOT KS or PK unless provoked. If the members of the once Cyanide guild and some from the Radiance guild STOP then so will we... We moved from the PvP server to a PvE server to avoid people like Elysium.

    Sad that i had to clarify and repeat myself on this thread. That being said ALL EMPIRE MEMBERS OFF THIS THREAD!!! i dont want to see another post by The Empire. The Poster that i quoted is right..they dragged us wayyyyy down to there lvl and this is garbage....b:bye
  • undeath
    undeath Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    switch to a PVP server and PK each other...too much talking again...zzzzzz...go pk them all...b:victory
  • Fina - Heavens Tear
    Fina - Heavens Tear Posts: 93 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    So this is what I have to wake up to...

    To my own guild: What the hell? Didn't I just give a huge long freakin speech yesterday and write a ginormous post on our website about NOT causing conflict. So some empire members came along and KSed...that seriously turns into this big mess? Was this thread honestly necessary? I thought I made it clear that I am sick and tired of playing diplomat

    One KS incident happens and it becomes a giant flaming mess. As if I didn't have enough ******** in my life to worry about now i've got this as well. You guys say you picked me as leader because i'm nice and best suited for the job, but this kind of posting (Don't give a DAMN about whether it's true or not) is making my job MUCH harder.

    I'm posting this here so BOTH guilds can see it, because it seems trying to talk sense in guild chat or on our own forums doesn't seem to get through to you guys. So now TheEmpire knows what has been expected of my guild as well: stop causing conflict.
    I read the forums when bored at work for the lulz.
  • Agranok - Heavens Tear
    Agranok - Heavens Tear Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Hisui: i want you to know that i wasn't generalizing your guild. I was talking explicitly about The 3 or 4 members who are shown "ksing" in the screens and video... Now that being said, your right.. I have no buissness posting in this thread because there is a rivalry that i was unaware of when i first made my post. Because there is a rivalry, and because Empire and Elysium have a history i can now see that the screens and video might not tell the whole story. Also my view on you has not changed. Your a good person from what i can tell, and I appreciated your input on my signature thread.
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    "There are no failures-just experiences and your reactions to them"
  • imahotfrog
    imahotfrog Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Hisui: i want you to know that i wasn't generalizing your guild. I was talking explicitly about The 3 or 4 members who are shown "ksing" in the screens and video... Now that being said, your right.. I have no buissness posting in this thread because there is a rivalry that i was unaware of when i first made my post. Because there is a rivalry, and because Empire and Elysium have a history i can now see that the screens and video might not tell the whole story. Also my view on you has not changed. Your a good person from what i can tell, and I appreciated your input on my signature thread.
    Rivalry is rivalry. KS is KS.

    If the empire wants Rivalry they should not resort it to KSing, after all they do have policy against KSing.
    Rivalry also does not make trash talking appropriate.

    If empire wants Rivalry, take it to the tw where it belongs.

    KSing and trash talking and making rumors is not the way to deal with rivalry. I'm sure most ppl here would agree on that.
  • Wargasm - Heavens Tear
    Wargasm - Heavens Tear Posts: 32 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    dope wrote: »
    Hotdog do you expect us to be nice? Did you wants buffs and for us to finish your grind for you?

    Youre in a ****ing rival guild dip ****. Elysium says they want people with the IQ of hitler, so stop being such a baby and crying on the forum trying to make us look bad.

    People, just as we pk elysium, just as they pk us, this is no more than guild rivalry.

    Its not like hotdog is some random guy who we would do this to. No way in hell are we like that.
    Hotdog is just mad he dropped his TT(HH) sword in a pk war and is just here looking for a pity party. Well sorry to say hotdog, i just crashed it.

    Nah he mad cause YOU KEEP BRINGING THIS UP. b:surrender

    edit : And i wouldn't say we are ''rival''. Rivals are supposed to be in a fair competition, you guys keep trying to ruin our reputation in order to avoid the fair competition. Have a good day :)
  • Tomiko - Heavens Tear
    Tomiko - Heavens Tear Posts: 416 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Nah he mad cause YOU KEEP BRINGING THIS UP. b:surrender

    edit : And i wouldn't say we are ''rival''. Rivals are supposed to be in a fair competition, you guys keep trying to ruin our reputation in order to avoid the fair competition. Have a good day :)

    We ruin your guild's reputation? phewie~ who brought this thread to ruin the Empire's reputation and what guild is he from?

    Good one Wargie~ Good one~ *two thumbs up*
  • Hisui - Heavens Tear
    Hisui - Heavens Tear Posts: 1,369 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Tomiko lets respect the community and lazor's wishes and remove ourselves from this thread.

    cmon lets go cast spells on puppies b:victory
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  • imahotfrog
    imahotfrog Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    We ruin your guild's reputation? phewie~ who brought this thread to ruin the Empire's reputation and what guild is he from?

    Good one Wargie~ Good one~ *two thumbs up*
    This thread is to show how u guys KSed, and seeing how many of ur members are defending that KSing is okay. You YOUSELF ruined ur reputation.

    Rivalry is rivalry. KS is KS.

    If the empire wants Rivalry they should not resort it to KSing, after all they do have policy against KSing.
    Rivalry also does not make trash talking appropriate.

    If empire wants Rivalry, take it to the tw where it belongs.

    KSing and trash talking and making rumors is not the way to deal with rivalry. I'm sure most ppl here would agree on that.
  • saylum
    saylum Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    Feel free to respond to this post with 'the last word' to enlarge e-peen without fear of further rebuttal. b:bye

    ^ Made me lol

    'e-peen'....
    *chuckles*
    :>
  • saylum
    saylum Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    God after reading this whole thing I think I'm gunna throw up....
    The bad insults and constant back-and-forths combined with the crappy english/grammar/spelling is killer on ones brain >.<
    I think Hisui's posts are the only ones I can stand to read lol....

    Fyi just because I appreciate her 'outstanding' literary abilities doesn't mean I'm for her side. I'm neutral on the situation. From the impressions I got from both sides, I'd have to say both of them are being immature about this.

    #1 Elysium shouldn't have replied to their original post in the first place, trying to justify their evidence, especially if they think their evidence is good (I'm mostly referring to hotfrog).
    #2 Empire shouldn't have cared that Elysium posted it, especially if it "doesn't show anything."

    #3 When someone KSs you, you ask them to stop, or ask to party, even if it's a rival faction. If they don't, you sit and wait until they stop, because if they are doing it just to KS you, they'll lose interest because it won't be a KS if you aren't attacking, and they'll leave. Go get a drink or a snack or take a pee break or something, seriously, it's NOT that hard to deal with the problem without having to result to PvP and/or continuous KSing, which results in whiny forum posts and back-and-forth flaming.

    Guess that's my 2 cents...
    :>
  • imahotfrog
    imahotfrog Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    saylum wrote: »
    God after reading this whole thing I think I'm gunna throw up....
    The bad insults and constant back-and-forths combined with the crappy english/grammar/spelling is killer on ones brain >.<
    I think Hisui's posts are the only ones I can stand to read lol....

    Fyi just because I appreciate her 'outstanding' literary abilities doesn't mean I'm for her side. I'm neutral on the situation. From the impressions I got from both sides, I'd have to say both of them are being immature about this.

    #1 Elysium shouldn't have replied to their original post in the first place, trying to justify their evidence, especially if they think their evidence is good (I'm mostly referring to hotfrog).
    #2 Empire shouldn't have cared that Elysium posted it, especially if it "doesn't show anything."

    #3 When someone KSs you, you ask them to stop, or ask to party, even if it's a rival faction. If they don't, you sit and wait until they stop, because if they are doing it just to KS you, they'll lose interest because it won't be a KS if you aren't attacking, and they'll leave. Go get a drink or a snack or take a pee break or something, seriously, it's NOT that hard to deal with the problem without having to result to PvP and/or continuous KSing, which results in whiny forum posts and back-and-forth flaming.

    Guess that's my 2 cents...
    #1 All I said is that i posted the evidence, so ppl can see and decide for themselves. Empires are trying to side step the evidence, and creating fiction out of facts. Justifying their wrong doing is necessary

    #3 Just because you can ignore KSers, it does not make it right. There is no use to try to sound like a saint, if people all just ignore other people's bad actions, then the world will be in chaos.

    thanx for ur 2 cents anyways.
  • Demongod - Heavens Tear
    Demongod - Heavens Tear Posts: 37 Arc User
    edited October 2008
    No need to try to reason with them Tomiko. Clearly Elysium graced this thread with half their guild trying to talk smack about us. It seems our little goodwill trip to their recruiting thread is smashed and e-drama is the only way they can settle it.

    We just worry about our own members' behavior and let Fina worry about her own guild.

    Elysium members aside...

    @op
    I was probably the first one to read this thread so the first thing I did was to notify our director. She didn't know anything about this either. PM me or blazeofglory with your ign, faction, and the whole story.

    @Agranok
    Stop generalizing. You probably know nothing about us. All this after I gave you pointers on your new signature too sigh b:surrender

    @Mscutypie
    who are you?

    will make an on-topic thread once I get a heads up on the situation. cheerios b:laugh

    Excuse me hisui I clearly disagree with what you are stating against elysium.. first and foremost the one that post this thread is a player stating the fact the he has beed ksed by your guild officers.. secondly elysium has nothing to do with this matter.. you are merely stating a childish accusations against elysium..

    you are merely a player who don't want to accept the state of facts. and you are directly pointing to the public how guilty you are for this accusations.. well upon replying to this thread i can see one thing you are merely generalizing and pointing an accusation without evidence against elysium...
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