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@dregenfox it totally is because china has a NPC specifically designated for this105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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Would be nice if were to get the same npc here. * wink wink*0
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I don’t "think" we will get that NPC here, I’m sure PWE already know that you can buy a full end game toon for around the cost of 400 gold, when the base R9 mats cost 2,750 gold. If PWI chose to sell other people’s characters, they would either be massively undercutting themselves or the prices would have to be at least 3,000 gold in 1 payment for an end game character. I’m sure there are two types of people who would still go for this. People who have that kind of money laying around, and people who have a lot of coin in game, only problem is that those people would flood the gold market. I’m not necessarily saying it’s a bad idea, just something they would have to keep in mind.0
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nibblescookiess wrote: »I don’t "think" we will get that NPC here, I’m sure PWE already know that you can buy a full end game toon for around the cost of 400 gold, when the base R9 mats cost 2,750 gold. If PWI chose to sell other people’s characters, they would either be massively undercutting themselves or the prices would have to be at least 3,000 gold in 1 payment for an end game character. I’m sure there are two types of people who would still go for this. People who have that kind of money laying around, and people who have a lot of coin in game, only problem is that those people would flood the gold market. I’m not necessarily saying it’s a bad idea, just something they would have to keep in mind.
Frankly the reason toons are so cheap currently, least from what I have heard, is because its bannable offense and its not monitored. There is no safety net if things go wrong. If PWE took charge of it, the prices would go up naturally, even doubling wouldnt surprise me as now you wouldnt risk just throwing your money for nothing.0 -
Frankly the reason toons are so cheap currently, least from what I have heard, is because its bannable offense and its not monitored. There is no safety net if things go wrong. If PWE took charge of it, the prices would go up naturally, even doubling wouldnt surprise me as now you wouldnt risk just throwing your money for nothing.
Hmm that’s true I know I wouldn’t risk buying an account while its illegal for sure. But what about people flooding the gold sales?
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nibblescookiess wrote: »Frankly the reason toons are so cheap currently, least from what I have heard, is because its bannable offense and its not monitored. There is no safety net if things go wrong. If PWE took charge of it, the prices would go up naturally, even doubling wouldnt surprise me as now you wouldnt risk just throwing your money for nothing.
Hmm that’s true I know I wouldn’t risk buying an account while its illegal for sure. But what about people flooding the gold sales?
Eh, its already generally pointless idea to sit on coin if you dont need it for something, which is why I dont expect AH gold trade to change drastically. Everybody who has coins to buy gold are already doing it.0 -
nibblescookiess wrote: »I don’t "think" we will get that NPC here, I’m sure PWE already know that you can buy a full end game toon for around the cost of 400 gold, when the base R9 mats cost 2,750 gold. If PWI chose to sell other people’s characters, they would either be massively undercutting themselves or the prices would have to be at least 3,000 gold in 1 payment for an end game character. I’m sure there are two types of people who would still go for this. People who have that kind of money laying around, and people who have a lot of coin in game, only problem is that those people would flood the gold market. I’m not necessarily saying it’s a bad idea, just something they would have to keep in mind.
Frankly the reason toons are so cheap currently, least from what I have heard, is because its bannable offense and its not monitored. There is no safety net if things go wrong. If PWE took charge of it, the prices would go up naturally, even doubling wouldnt surprise me as now you wouldnt risk just throwing your money for nothing.
Yes, the reason chars are so cheap atm is that the buyer is taking a massive risk of getting ripped off, so the sellers are forced to sell for way under market value to entice buyers to jump in and take a risk.
If market was fully supported by PWE then a char worth $5000 might sell for $3000 instead of $1000, assuming PWE takes a 15% commission (not unreasonable for a specialty sale like this), they're making $450 extra where before they would have made nothing (since the char gets sold elsewhere for $1000).
TBH, an updated endgame char worth $5k might sell for more than 5k due to the buyer not needing to do dailies.
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No offense guys but still 5k for a toon would still be crazy a endgame toon I would say fair is the 2750g required for r9 because that's essentially what they can put a legit price on. Think about it I see DoDs on some servers 70-80m while DA it's easily sold at 95-110m needless to say DA has the most rediculous prices but still how do you accommodate that when each server has its own price range? Just over price it like crazy and be done with it? At max maybe you put a courtesy charge of what $300-500 for the cost of not doing dailies otherwise besides gear and refines +12 there's not much a way you can hash out a set value esp when you can do things like get cardset and +11 free I'd done smart. Just something they should also consider105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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Im sure there are people who would CS on new bought accounts too. Potential more active players = potential CSers.
Lets say someone plays wizard and is bored of the class. They have no time or motivation to reroll since the things you gotta do to catch up are ridiculous. He decides to quit the game. You just lost a CSer.
Now lets say this same person can legally sell his wizard account and buy an SB account. Now the person is having fun and keeps playing and cashhops on the new account for more gear upgrades or w/e.
Some people might even buy accounts that arent max endgame so long as they have all/most dailies done and just CS some extra for refines or w/e.And of course people playing in the wrong timezone can sell their accounts and buy new ones on new servers and play and CS instead of quitting. Mainly speaking of HL players on DA.
I can see how china playerbase can remain active if people can just buy sell accounts and play new classes or come back after a long break and buy an account with all dailies done.0 -
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Wow i only see ppl qqing waterfak is this , guys there is nothing more fulfilling in life than spending 5-6 hours doing every possible daily quest u can , this just brings such joy and smileys on ppls faces
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No offense guys but still 5k for a toon would still be crazy a endgame toon I would say fair is the 2750g required for r9 because that's essentially what they can put a legit price on. Think about it I see DoDs on some servers 70-80m while DA it's easily sold at 95-110m needless to say DA has the most rediculous prices but still how do you accommodate that when each server has its own price range? Just over price it like crazy and be done with it? At max maybe you put a courtesy charge of what $300-500 for the cost of not doing dailies otherwise besides gear and refines +12 there's not much a way you can hash out a set value esp when you can do things like get cardset and +11 free I'd done smart. Just something they should also consider
TBH I'm sort of curious whether any people bit on PWI's offer of an instant endgamed char for a $3000 donation (iirc?) during the Twitch life stream. If they were talking full +12, josd, AEU set, that was a fantastic deal in terms of total investment required to reach that level.
You're also looking at it from a gamer's point of view instead of a CS'ers PoV. CS'ers would gladly pay those sums of money in exchange for the time/effort saved.0 -
kalystconquerer#0876 wrote: »To general thread - If we can not immediately target the root (NA players stuck on EU server times), what stopgaps are being experienced and what sorts of things you'd like to see tried out to help this in the meantime?
Aside from the fact that former European players on Harshlands made their own decisions and went into it with eyes open, there is still a fundamental difference due to time zones: European players could choose to either stay up or wake up and participate in events. We can't just decide to set an alarm and leave work at two or three in the afternoon so that we can participate in any of the in-game content. As it stands, former Harshlands players have access to basically nothing due to the time zone differences.
Ping randomly spikes to 30,000ms and never drops below 500ms. You can stand two clients side-by-side and watch one become 100% unresponsive, so much so that it will neither buff itself nor do so much as update someone's hp bar if you click on the character, yet the other works within normal expectations.
Have you ever tried to do DUP with 500+ms ping? Impossible.
Have you ever tried to use a genie in PVP with 500+ms ping? No Badge, no Fortify, no AD, no Expel, no Will Surge, no SoF, no Balance, etc. They're impossible to time correctly to prevent a debuff, or you're dead before the effect registers and prevents you from dying.
Have you ever tried to use a stun combo with 500+ms ping? If it was a stable 500ms, it might be possible. When it fluctuates from minute to minute? Nope. Impossible.
Event wise:
Drake stops spawning at 6. It's impossible to collect Barbaric / Primordial Bloods.
Resource War takes place at 2 on a random day. No resource war means no access to bloods via this method. No access to Inkdragon's Blood.
Nation War:
Takes place at 2 in the afternoon. Cannot collect supply tokens. Cannot collect Seals of War. This means no upgraded gear: no G16 Cube Neck, no Dominance / Emperor, no Moon's Embrace / Star's Destiny / r9 ring recast.
No nation war means extremely limited access to Raptures and Uncannys. No access to these two items means extremely limited access to Summerwind Tokens. That means no upgraded r9 gear.
PVP Tournament:
Takes place at 3 in the afternoon. No access to Barbaric/ Primordial Bloods, Ancient Emblems, or G17.
I can go on . . . But seriously, what aspect of this game isn't tied to doing events? Pick ANY event and it should be immediately obvious as to how participating in it gives an innate advantage to a player who is able to attend versus one who is not.
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The problem is being forced onto a Euro server where its impossible to progress due to the nature of collecting gear in this game and partially-impossible to play due to latency issues.0 -
Except that the proof is in walking around west arch that most people pay a third that or less and most see no reprimand. Pay a couple hundred dollars a toon and youre still gaurenteed to save even if you get banned a few times.
As far as timed events goes, yeah joe we know, everyone but you is lazy and therefore people who havent been playing the game since 09 and havent farmed those events for years should suffer. Good point. Lets make it really hard for players who maybe even just joined hl before server merge was announced. Just because YOU dont have problems because youre gods greatest gift to pwi does not mean that others are lazy.
I feel badly for you that you lack so much compassion. You must have had a rough childhood to be so narrowminded and believe that everyone had the exact opportunities you did.
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Event wise:
Drake stops spawning at 6. It's impossible to collect Barbaric / Primordial Bloods.
Resource War takes place at 2 on a random day. No resource war means no access to bloods via this method. No access to Inkdragon's Blood.
Nation War:
Takes place at 2 in the afternoon. Cannot collect supply tokens. Cannot collect Seals of War. This means no upgraded gear: no G16 Cube Neck, no Dominance / Emperor, no Moon's Embrace / Star's Destiny / r9 ring recast.
No nation war means extremely limited access to Raptures and Uncannys. No access to these two items means extremely limited access to Summerwind Tokens. That means no upgraded r9 gear.
PVP Tournament:
Takes place at 3 in the afternoon. No access to Barbaric/ Primordial Bloods, Ancient Emblems, or G17.
I can go on . . . But seriously, what aspect of this game isn't tied to doing events? Pick ANY event and it should be immediately obvious as to how participating in it gives an innate advantage to a player who is able to attend versus one who is not.
Where's the stopgap?
The problem is being forced onto a Euro server where its impossible to progress due to the nature of collecting gear in this game and partially-impossible to play due to latency issues.
This ^^
Not only this but EU players that play on US servers are also at this disadvantage!
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Another very simple thing to alleviate lag issues with US players on DA is to simply allow the use of VPN's using different IP addresses. Playing without a VPN server based in Europe often results in constant packet loss and ping spikes of 30k+. For the 2 months I was using a custom VPN I had zero lag issues but lived in constant fear of being auto-banned. It's an overly strict, narrow, and lazy policy by PWI for a harmless fix a lot of international players use for overseas gaming.0 -
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Some of this is off but you get the general idea ^ not encouraging illegal bought acc but this is why it happens >.< not all of us can be like joe to start from nothing and slowly work up there105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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aradya6793 wrote: »i cant reroll a toon on a diff server, as i said i can play 30mins 1 hour a day late evening time, how am i supposed to get a char up to date in a time lapse that wouldn't be years or even several months?Except that the proof is in walking around west arch that most people pay a third that or less and most see no reprimand. Pay a couple hundred dollars a toon and youre still gaurenteed to save even if you get banned a few times.
As far as timed events goes, yeah joe we know, everyone but you is lazy and therefore people who havent been playing the game since 09 and havent farmed those events for years should suffer. Good point. Lets make it really hard for players who maybe even just joined hl before server merge was announced. Just because YOU dont have problems because youre gods greatest gift to pwi does not mean that others are lazy.
I feel badly for you that you lack so much compassion. You must have had a rough childhood to be so narrowminded and believe that everyone had the exact opportunities you did.
Why are you being so aggressive? It seems that you don't understand my intentions cause compassion is all my words have been from the very core. People fret about such trivial things and waste their time on stuff they don't need and some people obviously feel worse due to that. I just stated that they have so much useless baggage they carry around and feel obliged to do (like certain events, UP and many more) when, in fact, they don't really need to do it at all and still wouldn't miss out.
Don't blame me for all the virtual shackles people put on themselves. The easiest excuse will always be "but you are you, what works for you doesnt work for me". That is absolute BS. We are humans. We only differ by the sum of experiences we've made. Other than that, we are all the same. Anyone (except people with physical inabilities) can achieve the same thing, can walk the same road and have equal opportunities.
If I was a new char (or would make a new one) then the only events I would participate in for character progression is NW. Get my 1080 Supply tokens for my ring and then never enter NW again (cept for fun). That is max 5 NWs you need to do for that and either the friday or sunday timeslot will be available to a majority of people hence no problem there.
The only other event that would be somewhat useful is TNF. For ~4 Barbaric Bloods or 20 Primordial bloods more every week. Sure. Nice to have. Does it drastically reduce the time needed for your passives to be collected? Nope. Still need to do all the Sky-Level-Stuff. Are there any other events/instances you have to do? FSP? Nope. UP? Nope. TW, xTW? Nope.
All in all...the events they all cry about have only very little impact on a characters progression in this game. All the stuff you "have" to do isn't that mandatory after all. Like I said. Virtual Shackles. How can you blame me for the inability and/or carelessness of everyone else in terms of time management. I only do what has the maximum efficiency. Nothing else. Believe it or not..that would not only work for myself. Heck it's so easily apply-able to anyone else...I don't even...
Again..the comparison with poor people smoking was perfect imho. You shouldn't be complaining about having no money when you can afford to smoke stuff for 10 bucks every day. You also shouldn't be complaining about the lack of time for Events/PvP if you can afford to burn your time with UP/FSP. ESPECIALLY when your gears are nearly max.
Do all your needed primal dailies (30 mins max if you are not a slowpoke) and then do PvP or just do PvP once passives are maxed. Life **** much?0 -
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@jsxshadow basically you're saying join crisis Zulu reign or bankai or **** off rest of server it's not like crisis alliance doesn't specifically try and block all other guilds mainly infamous. Ik you don't do it but crisis shows maybe 60-80 ppl, Ik from what I see on YT and friends pm me, bankai about 10ish reign 20-30 ppl meaning you have nearly about 100 ppl sometimes 70-80 ppl trying to slaughter maybe 30-40 ppl max infa and punishers can show. Yes very possible "Just do TnF" yeah okay I've done this event twice on the off chance I was off early from work and what did I see? Oh that's right just every room I was out numbered ATLEAST 5 vs 10+ of said alliance of ppl who are equal or slightly lowered gear ig I suck losing to a 5 man gank of said gear grade..... Seriously.... that's just insulting to even suggest that. Let's all refoll sins Jsod camp def wep and escape skills to have a chance like some of the infa who may Make it past rm 2 oh wait how will we farm blood to get passives and have a chance to tank? "Just do TnF" **** DA paradox give me a server transfer lmfao xD please tell me I'm wrong @aradya6793105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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I've never said "Just do TNF". I said it's not even worth it that much. If I couldnt participate then I wouldnt mind much. If I do, I only care about Ancient Emblems.
The problems you guys have specifically in TNF is that you are well known and people like to just kill you. I can let my alts standing in there, getting silver/Gold every single TNF on every char, every weak without a hassle.
I don't say that what Crisis does is OK, I got robbed off Platinium/Diamond many times as well because many rooms have just been full of Crisis/Allies with no challenge and you just end up getting randomly OSed. That sucks. Still, if you are famous (or infamous in that case) people will not hold back nor ignore you unlike they do with alts. If someone recognizes you in any room then ofc they will go ham on you with all their might and numbers. Not like big companies and even countries wouldn't do the exact same all the friggin time. So you see, it's only natural.
I dislike the way TNF is and I hate it that I cant see who is who in there and in all honesty it is just boring and a waste of time..if it wasnt for the 10+ Emblems I get every week =P But yes, as for TNF, your personal problem is that you've chosen the wrong side. End of the story. It's the same on every other server as well, before you start wanting a server-transfer again which would realistically solve 0 problems for you. Just saying.
PS: @blazerboy @aradya6793 You both have endgame-geared chars. Why the hell do you even bother with an event that has no PvP and only very little rewards then? Why bother at all? Just don't do it. What could you potentially lose from ignoring it? Yeah, nothing at all.0 -
^ @jsxshadow agian that alliance makes up MOST OF THE ACTIVE PLAYERS IN THE SERVER ofc they know you're Alts and won't make it a point to attack you. Your Alts faces are all over YT so they won't attack you unless they have never opened YT. At this point it's not about being infa or punishers it's not being in the quad alliance.... The rest of the server doesn't actually have a equal opportunity. Even if it's just hateful vindicative ppl only shows how DA really is just a clown fiesta when it comes to any mass scale pvp ._. Even if there 0 challenge our community still has to find ways to step on ppl who can't even defend. Either make two or let HLs move nothing you can say about TnF that can justify a server transfer shouldn't be implemented.
P.S I need ring engraves/Astrobana Pearls/ and Primal bloods ofc it benefits me even though it's no huge progression it's better than making multi toons on the same server to deal with the same bs on diff toons xD. You may only enjoy 1v1 but I enjoy all forms of pk and on multi chars to deal with the same uneven **** is a waste of time may aswell just do one char105/105/105 Seeking ScallyMode
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Useless to stay here to discuss... every server have the same problems.
I wish to join EU server because:
- Ping on NA server is bad. My line is bad too so I even have 800/1500 ping. Sometime when i'm in west archosaur everything stop till i see "Disconnected from server". On Dawnglory atleast i have around 200/300 ping.
- Events. All the main events that I like to participate are at bad time. NW is at 5.20am, TNF is at 5.50am (during week, so I have to go to work after that), RW is at 5am (same I have to work after), TW is at 2am (only day I can sleep).
- I don't mind PK. Random PK can't never be balanced, in every server people cry about faction that can outgear/outnumber other factions and kill PK. So that argument is pointless.
- On Twillight Temple server people like talk much more than fight. I see alot more respect and fun between players in Dawnglory.
- When I started to play PWI only available server was NA.
- Psy buff really need to be fixed on Psy class only. People PK even with Psy buff is such annoying and that kill PK more than "outnumber". (Off topic xD)
Move character between servers its hard and with a massive request of players that want to move will be the chaos.
My hints are:
1) Allow to buy/sell accounts as someone said before.
2) Put a damn cross server map accessible at any hour with PK mode active (same as old PVP servers).Roar_King
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Useless to stay here to discuss... every server have the same problems.
I wish to join EU server because:
- Ping on NA server is bad. My line is bad too so I even have 800/1500 ping. Sometime when i'm in west archosaur everything stop till i see "Disconnected from server". On Dawnglory atleast i have around 200/300 ping.
- Events. All the main events that I like to participate are at bad time. NW is at 5.20am, TNF is at 5.50am (during week, so I have to go to work after that), RW is at 5am (same I have to work after), TW is at 2am (only day I can sleep).
- I don't mind PK. Random PK can't never be balanced, in every server people cry about faction that can outgear/outnumber other factions and kill PK. So that argument is pointless.
- On Twillight Temple server people like talk much more than fight. I see alot more respect and fun between players in Dawnglory.
- When I started to play PWI only available server was NA.
- Psy buff really need to be fixed on Psy class only. People PK even with Psy buff is such annoying and that kill PK more than "outnumber". (Off topic xD)
Move character between servers its hard and with a massive request of players that want to move will be the chaos.
My hints are:
1) Allow to buy/sell accounts as someone said before.
2) Put a damn cross server map accessible at any hour with PK mode active (same as old PVP servers).
This!!! Especially the last part. Why can't the East-Coast server be open at all times with arenas and all that jazz. That would be friggin amazing. Anyone could gather there for mass-pvp, 1v1..whatever they like. Organized or unorganized. Brilliant idea!0 -
I can let my alts standing in there, getting silver/Gold every single TNF on every char, every weak without a hassle.
I got robbed off Platinium/Diamond many times as well
if it wasnt for the 10+ Emblems I get every week
I'm not targeting you specifically, but this is exactly my point. I'm sorry if you don't see the value in 'only' earning 10 Ancient Emblems or 'only' earning 70 mil on 'a bad day when you got robbed' for participating in a thirty minute event
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