New Player seeking help with stats

In a nutshell, I'm new to PWI.
I'm extremely used to games that auto-assign stat points for you, so this game overwhelms me and I REALLY don't wanna **** my stats up.

I'm interested in Barbarian and Venomancer, I'm a 'solo' player, but I enjoy grouping, dungeons and all that good stuff.
I NEVER PVP, so I'm not after pvp type builds.

I've read guides that say 'Assign x amount of points for your final pieces of armour' but I have no idea what the end game gear requirements are.
there are also a gazillion out of date threads on stats so.. I'm looking for someones fresh, up to date opinion, or maybe even a different solo' friendly class altogether, I'm just after a simple.. ''Every level or two levels, assign your 5 stats accordingly.. x on vit, x on str, x on dex.. etc.

All help and responses are super appreciated.

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  • chary
    chary Posts: 850 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Endgame veno stat reqs are like 60 str and I want to say like 300 mag. The rest can either be thrown into mag for more matk or vit for more HP. Personally, I do recommend adding some vit (you don't have to throw all in though) so you have somewhere between 6k-8k hp unbuffed at end-game. This is enough to not die horribly from random AOEs in FSP which is one of the major farming dungeons.

    Barb, I am not too familiar with. You can either go str build with some dex or do minimum str/dex and rest vit. Just try to have like 25k hp buffed in tiger.​​
  • regressionx
    regressionx Posts: 6 Arc User
    chary said:

    Endgame veno stat reqs are like 60 str and I want to say like 300 mag. The rest can either be thrown into mag for more matk or vit for more HP. Personally, I do recommend adding some vit (you don't have to throw all in though) so you have somewhere between 6k-8k hp unbuffed at end-game. This is enough to not die horribly from random AOEs in FSP which is one of the major farming dungeons.



    Barb, I am not too familiar with. You can either go str build with some dex or do minimum str/dex and rest vit. Just try to have like 25k hp buffed in tiger.​​

    Ah right, i found a guide online that says every two levels, 1 str, 9 mag, i guess arround 300 mag i'll drop some into VIT to get the 6-8k hp.

    Out of curiosity.. are stat resets available? and if so.. are they expensive.. or?
  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Unless you're leveling insanely fast, I suggest following a Vit build of + 1 Vit + 1 Str + 6 Mag + 2 in Vit or Mag every two levels. You can read more about it here. If you're leveling normally you might need some extra HP during the leveling process, especially if you like to play solo a lot. While your pet will take the damage for you and you can avoid getting hit, it's not uncommon to find yourself in tight situations and the extra HP will help. Even more so since you'll probably not want to refine your gear highly during the early levels (you'll replace the gear relatively fast & won't have the money to refine anyway).

    At level 100 you can rebirth and your stats will be reset. You can choose to change your build if you'd like to, or you can keep the Vit build. There are also reset notes that can reset your stats if you ever decide to change in the future. It's common for Venomancers to eventually go for a pure magic build once they have decent gear, but that's entirely up to you and by the time you're in that position you will probably have enough knowledge and experience to know what you want or need.

    I don't have experience for Barbarians so I can't say anything about them, but I suggest taking a look at Useful Venomancer Links, you may find a lot of useful information there.

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  • regressionx
    regressionx Posts: 6 Arc User

    Unless you're leveling insanely fast, I suggest following a Vit build of + 1 Vit + 1 Str + 6 Mag + 2 in Vit or Mag every two levels. You can read more about it here. If you're leveling normally you might need some extra HP during the leveling process, especially if you like to play solo a lot. While your pet will take the damage for you and you can avoid getting hit, it's not uncommon to find yourself in tight situations and the extra HP will help. Even more so since you'll probably not want to refine your gear highly during the early levels (you'll replace the gear relatively fast & won't have the money to refine anyway).



    At level 100 you can rebirth and your stats will be reset. You can choose to change your build if you'd like to, or you can keep the Vit build. There are also reset notes that can reset your stats if you ever decide to change in the future. It's common for Venomancers to eventually go for a pure magic build once they have decent gear, but that's entirely up to you and by the time you're in that position you will probably have enough knowledge and experience to know what you want or need.



    I don't have experience for Barbarians so I can't say anything about them, but I suggest taking a look at Useful Venomancer Links, you may find a lot of useful information there.



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    I've stuck with venomancer for now, 37 in 3 days.. All i'm doing is whatever quests are in my log, not sure if there's a specific route i'm supposed to take, or dungeons.. so, I'm not sure if i'm 'leveling quickly' by the communitys standards. Thanks for the tips, i'll try some vit then, rebirth and find something that works for me. :>
    really appreciate the help!

    sure would be lovely to find a guild, feel like im harassing forums lately.

  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Ahh, sounds like a normal leveling pace with questing! Disregard my leveling comment then. monkey-47.gif I think if you just follow your quests you'll be on the right path as they naturally make you move from place to place leading you to where you are supposed to be, but whenever you have questions don't hesitate to ask!
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  • chary
    chary Posts: 850 Arc User
    Most guilds anymore don't recruit below being level 100 and second rb, but probably try asking officers of any guilds that aren't major territory war guilds.​​
  • daniel291184
    daniel291184 Posts: 22 Arc User
    For barbs, the most important stat is the str. You need 3 points the str every lvl.

    Dex is just to fullfill the requeriments of the gear. You can put 1 point in dex every two lvl. is enought.

    The free points are going to be in vit or str, if you want a tank use your free points in vit, I recomend this until you get the 2nd reborn.

    Then you choose, what kind of barb do you want, a pure vit, an hybrid barb or a pure str. All this builds are goods, depends what you want to do as a barb.
  • werewolves#6809
    werewolves#6809 Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Kw4b-ugyllOiEuBAnpIteQr_pbuYRLmPoc3VVhlUHeM/edit?usp=sharing

    This google spreedsheet can help calculate different builds. It also warns you if the build you are using prevents you using certain weapons and gear. Hope this helps. Until I find more about the G17 requirements theses are the current status needed for gear/armour at end game (R9r3 is also covered in this).

    For Venos and Barbs though (favourite classes) each of them have possibly the biggest range of differnt builds out of all the other classes, the possible exception being the blade master (can have 5+ weapons).

    For my veno I am sort of a vit build and have this caped at 60, str at 60 and everything else into magic. At lower levels try and do 1 str, 3/4 mag per level, with 1 vit maybe every 2 until hit theses caps. NEVER put anything into dex for a veno (unless doing HA build).

    For my barb I have 2 one is a tank build and one more for farming (though still a work in progress). Bear in mind if you are goign to make a catta barb (full vit) you will quite likely need warsong, r9r3 or theses new g17 weapons (theses being the more costly end game gears).

    Personly recommend try out both of theses classes but on seperate accounts (this means they can help each other out). And any additional charaters on thouse accounts as storage.

    Bear in mind when you hit 100 on this game you can rebirth. This resets your level down to level 1 again (but it's worth it for the skills, passives and access to primal) and you have to restat your charater again, so if at first don't succed, try, try again.
  • anelaa1
    anelaa1 Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    Ignore all the people telling you too add anything to vit ... EVER .. especially veno or any magic classes. You will need 56 strength then put all your remaining points into magic. You can get vit from your gear. Barb doesn't really need vit either. Add only enough dex points to equip your gear then put the rest into str. Seriously, the way the game is now, adding vit points to any class is a total waste. I play mystic and veno and my magic attack is insanely OP.

    Also, you can solo the normal quests but the dungeons that you need for spiritual cultivation can not be solo-ed if you are in that level range. There are not many new players coming into PWI so it might be hard to find a squad.

    My advice .... roll a summoner on Blade and Soul and forget PWI. :P
  • catgirldesu
    catgirldesu Posts: 993 Arc User
    edited March 2016
    For someone who is leveling, they won't really get enough HP or Vit points from gear. Besides they can always re-stat for free once they can rebirth. Clerics and Mystics go pure magic from the start since they can heal themselves and out-heal the damage they take. Damage dealing classes go pure magic because they are supposed to kill things before it reaches them. Venomancers are neither. The pet can tank, but it won't always be there.

    Keep in mind that a new player will not be fully aware of various game aspects. Another thing to take note of is that several level 100 instances require you a minimum amount of HP/defence so that you can stay alive. A new player is unlikely to have gear level for them but they can bypass that by sacrificing some damage to add to Vit. until they improve their gear. It's also much easier to refine your weapon highly than doing the same for a whole armor set to gain HP.

    It isn't uncommon for casual players to follow a Vit.build/Hybrid Build with average armor refines and a highly refined weapon. In fact that gives them as much magic attack as pure magic builds with low refines. Low refines due to being unable to refine their armor and weapon.


    As for Vit; don't forget Barbarians who pull catapults are often Vit.build for max HP and defences. Vit. build endgame Venomancers are also a thing, though I do not support that build myself, I can see why some choose to go that route considering Venomancers have generally low damage compared to other magic classes and are a support class.

    Remember this is a new player, not an experienced one playing a new class.


    I play that class in that MMO you mentioned, but I still think Venomancers are more fun. On the other hand, the games have completely different mechanics so they aren't too comparable.
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