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patrickhuong wrote: »patrickhuong wrote: »nah he is trolling ignore him...same with that guy who said SB and DB have no morai skills
I'm not a troll and even said that i myself find DB op as they are currently. And maybe I'm mistaken but still think I'm not wrong (I do admit i don't play a lot recently and don't go often in Morai though) :
Are you sure you're talking about real Morai skills (not the fact that you can now get culti 79 and culti 100 skills through Morai) ? If so, you could for example name a DB/SB Morai skill to me and it would prove helpful someday.
i don't know about DB but i know about SB because i have one
here are SB morai skills
waxing cresent increase their attack range by 15 meters
Cloud cover anti-purge in 1 mins (only effective 1 times CD 90s)
Lunar sacrifice which "sacrifice" SB deff to increase squadmates deff (this skill will get stronger in the next update)
I've just checked PWdatabase :
Cloud Cover
Lunar Sacrifice
Waxin Crescent
Those are not Morai skills... as I said, you can now farm some non Morai skills in Morai for all the classes, but those are not "Morai skills"
OMG......stop this OMG i give up on you
you are not troller you are purely stupid....
in order to get these skills...you need to be in specific orders in morai and need 3500 order points to get it along with 600+ the other order points....That is morai skills for god sake.......(just like leap left, leap right, arrow infernal, and ataxia of archer)
the ones that you mean can be farmable in morai are LV 100 celestial skills
here are SB LV 100 celestial skills
perilunare call recover 4 sparks in 20s cool down i think is 180s
perigean tide deal physical damge + debuff 100% metal and water deff (super OP skill)
SB LV 79 skill is summoning clone.......
OMG if you argue against this answer i will label you as ****....i am sorry but that is what you are
what SB don't have (and they never will have because no such thing exists) is LV 80 morai skill which can be upgrade from AEU book
and a LV 100 skill that is obtained from AEU like whisper shot of archer or magic shackle of cleric
my guess is because SB already OP and they don't need those skills...
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Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.0 -
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Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will have or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?0 -
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
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Guys, if you don't chill out a bit, I'm going to have to close the thread.0
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patrickhuong wrote: »there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
You're probably right regarding that (kinda late here). I was trying to compare on PWdatabase to show what new classes don't have and shouldn't have mentionned this bible...
Anyway, what I meant in the first place (and I did admit from the start I didn't know the skills from new classes well) is that those two classes got less Morai skills than other classes. And you finally said it yourself (level 80 one and his AEU advanced version, or the one that you should get in AEU)
This doesn't mean they need it, but facts are that they currently have less than other classes.
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Actually there was an item called sage and demon bible. The quest chain existsed for a short time, around the time they revamped Seat of Torment and Abadon. It had you go through an obnoxious and tedious process to gain the items which allowed the existing classes at the time a chance to gain a random 79 or 100 skill book, not including the morai ones which could not be obtained through the item. I know for a fact this item existed in the game at one point because I, as well as many friends and guildmates had obtained said item.patrickhuong wrote: »
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense0 -
teikiatsu11 wrote: »
Actually there was an item called sage and demon bible. The quest chain existsed for a short time, around the time they revamped Seat of Torment and Abadon. It had you go through an obnoxious and tedious process to gain the items which allowed the existing classes at the time a chance to gain a random 79 or 100 skill book, not including the morai ones which could not be obtained through the item. I know for a fact this item existed in the game at one point because I, as well as many friends and guildmates had obtained said item.patrickhuong wrote: »
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
you are saying the quest doesnt exist anymore or cant be obtained anymore?
I STILL have this quest in my questlog and was too confused to do it but i got hep so at the next abbadon weekly squad i will be able to complete it.
Hope i still get the rewards though
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teikiatsu11 wrote: »
Actually there was an item called sage and demon bible. The quest chain existsed for a short time, around the time they revamped Seat of Torment and Abadon. It had you go through an obnoxious and tedious process to gain the items which allowed the existing classes at the time a chance to gain a random 79 or 100 skill book, not including the morai ones which could not be obtained through the item. I know for a fact this item existed in the game at one point because I, as well as many friends and guildmates had obtained said item.patrickhuong wrote: »
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
you are saying the quest doesnt exist anymore or cant be obtained anymore?
I STILL have this quest in my questlog and was too confused to do it but i got hep so at the next abbadon weekly squad i will be able to complete it.
Hope i still get the rewards though
You can still get them, I did the quest bout month ago for my DB and got my skill just fine.
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"Can you tell us how the Blademaster and Stormbringer classes have been changed? What other changes to combat balance can players expect with this update?
We’ve added high level skills for Nightshades and also made some balance improvements for formal skills in order to make skills casting easier, smoother, and more adaptable to the current game environment. The new class is in a weak position right now, so we improved its strength to make it more competitive."
I have copy and pasted the above from the original news, the part about the classes being buffed. What part of it makes you think that blademaster was supposed to be duskblade? It sounds to me like the guy only addressed stormbringer at all in his response and said nothing about blademaster, or even duskblade, if u think thats what they meant to put. was there an offical statement that blademaster was a typo? if not i dont get why everyone is assuming DB is getting buffed then.
SB yes i can agree with getting buffed. I think they do lack utility compared to other classes or as i like to think of it "tricks to staying alive". However they do have tricks too but their effectiveness depends on having the correct combination of orbs which is basically managing another resourse along with mana and chi. You have to acutally think carefully about what you cast in a given situation or you could end up lessening your desired effects.
DB have stun-lock and very little surviviblity on there own, but do you really think that giving a class BOTH is fair or "balanced"? its called "high risk high reward for a reason". It really doesnt matter if you died as long as you accomplished an objective. In fact it doesnt even matter if you killed someone. if you stun locked them long enough to delay them from completing enemy objective or allowing time for allies to come and help etc, then you did a fine job already and can die happy.
People have also said it a bunch of times but these changes are reflected in china not our version, so it really doenst matter what the --- we have to say about it in the long run...
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teikiatsu11 wrote: »
Actually there was an item called sage and demon bible. The quest chain existsed for a short time, around the time they revamped Seat of Torment and Abadon. It had you go through an obnoxious and tedious process to gain the items which allowed the existing classes at the time a chance to gain a random 79 or 100 skill book, not including the morai ones which could not be obtained through the item. I know for a fact this item existed in the game at one point because I, as well as many friends and guildmates had obtained said item.patrickhuong wrote: »
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
you are saying the quest doesnt exist anymore or cant be obtained anymore?
I STILL have this quest in my questlog and was too confused to do it but i got hep so at the next abbadon weekly squad i will be able to complete it.
Hope i still get the rewards though
You can still get them, I did the quest bout month ago for my DB and got my skill just fine.
ok good to know ty
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teikiatsu11 wrote: »
Actually there was an item called sage and demon bible. The quest chain existsed for a short time, around the time they revamped Seat of Torment and Abadon. It had you go through an obnoxious and tedious process to gain the items which allowed the existing classes at the time a chance to gain a random 79 or 100 skill book, not including the morai ones which could not be obtained through the item. I know for a fact this item existed in the game at one point because I, as well as many friends and guildmates had obtained said item.patrickhuong wrote: »
BTW you need to have 3500 and 600 order points to get those books, there is no short cutpatrickhuong wrote: »Dude, you seem to like saying people are stupid and maybe I am, but, in my opinion, insulting people won't make you smarter.
The only thing I'm saying is that all the skills you're mentionning can be obtained without even entering in Morai once (thanks to Sage and Demon Bible).
But, yeah, maybe you're right and maybe the new classes are the only ones that can have ALL their "morai skills" without entering Morai at all. Or maybe we could assume there should be more, without being stupid. Right ?
And note that in my first post I was talking about primal skills. Then maybe you will say I'm stupid and that SB/DB will never have other "Primal skills" than passive ones.
OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
i am sorry i call you stupid but your posts indicate you are....
about primal skills....they will have it next updates and excuse me....i already know what they will or you can check their sub-forum to see what the new skills are
OMG sage and demon bibile....my god...did you even go into morai and start this nonsense arguement?
the only short cut that you can have is from aution house which some time will have those books for sale other than that no other way beside ENTERING morai
there is no such thing called sage and demon bible.....log in the game and actually play it and say something that make sense
you are saying the quest doesnt exist anymore or cant be obtained anymore?
I STILL have this quest in my questlog and was too confused to do it but i got hep so at the next abbadon weekly squad i will be able to complete it.
Hope i still get the rewards though
You dont have to do abbadon weekly to continue with the quest. What you need is at the intrance in Abba and if I remember corectly you have to go in SOT too. You will need to talk with that frog and do a quest were some orbs with different colours will apear. The quest will tell you what orbs you have to kill to succed. But abba and Sot are not the end. You will have to go in EU or AEU ( cant remember which one) and kill that boss activated when you talk with a blue crystal that I think everyone that been in EU have seen it. Cant remember if its something after that in quest line...
Anyway I obtain Waving Crescent by doing the quest
And 1 year ago my sin( which is abandoned now) got Spell Cutter.
The skill that you get is random.
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Pestle of Re. Access. go to PW Promotions Agent, pick the mentioned quest and you will get your bible
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astralwalk wrote: »"Can you tell us how the Blademaster and Stormbringer classes have been changed? What other changes to combat balance can players expect with this update?
We’ve added high level skills for Nightshades and also made some balance improvements for formal skills in order to make skills casting easier, smoother, and more adaptable to the current game environment. The new class is in a weak position right now, so we improved its strength to make it more competitive."
I have copy and pasted the above from the original news, the part about the classes being buffed. What part of it makes you think that blademaster was supposed to be duskblade? It sounds to me like the guy only addressed stormbringer at all in his response and said nothing about blademaster, or even duskblade, if u think thats what they meant to put. was there an offical statement that blademaster was a typo? if not i dont get why everyone is assuming DB is getting buffed then.
SB yes i can agree with getting buffed. I think they do lack utility compared to other classes or as i like to think of it "tricks to staying alive". However they do have tricks too but their effectiveness depends on having the correct combination of orbs which is basically managing another resourse along with mana and chi. You have to acutally think carefully about what you cast in a given situation or you could end up lessening your desired effects.
DB have stun-lock and very little surviviblity on there own, but do you really think that giving a class BOTH is fair or "balanced"? its called "high risk high reward for a reason". It really doesnt matter if you died as long as you accomplished an objective. In fact it doesnt even matter if you killed someone. if you stun locked them long enough to delay them from completing enemy objective or allowing time for allies to come and help etc, then you did a fine job already and can die happy.
People have also said it a bunch of times but these changes are reflected in china not our version, so it really doenst matter what the --- we have to say about it in the long run...
it's supposed to be duskblade for 3 reasons
1) do you think it's correct to put blademaster and stormbringer together? if you replace blademaster with duskblade the question sounds a lot smoother
2) look at the answer the "Nightshade" word said it all
3) the thing you quoted is not something special lol.....it just simply means that DB and SB will have their primal skills in the next update which we already know lol.....it's nothing special really....it's just funny how they said " the new classes are in weak position right now...." and sorry but BMs get no updates
you agree Sb getting buffed? do you even play SB.....i play both SB and archer...i can tell you with confident....archer have 0 chance completely 0 to win an equal or slighly lower gear SB
let me show you how to kill an archer easily with SB
change to reaper form (or anti stun first if you see archer channeling stunning arrow), anti purge, anti stun, holypath to the archer and downburst constantly all the way.....you can use avartar of storm (or not if you don't have spark) when you are close to that archer.....that archer will try to cast WOG.....simply use ice bullet which has only 0.6 channel time (assume that SB only have -50% channeling ) this will interupt the WOG channeling....and the archer will stand still and get all damge from avartar of storm.....now.....i will show you SB 1 hit combo....after using ice bullet...downburst again-->perigean tide-->moon blade (the new version will give you 30% damge increse) +deep poison (add 50% damge in total)-->use snowstorm......this will ensure that you can 1 hit any equal gears player if they don't AD or use IG......that archer's probably need to use AD or IG to prevent the fate of being 1 hit.....
then probably leap left and left right.......when in that case just simply walk in that direction and downbrust all the way.....reapeat the combo moonblade+deep poison.....if perigean tide is cooling down SB can use cloudbrust and toss in a couple of tidal force and frigid thunder and by this time ice bullet already finish cool down.....
that archer.......have no chance to counter attack....if that archer manage to hit.....so what? his damge is nerf to the ground when hit on SB with reaper form/buff/passive .......the damge is just a joke to that SB....and that SB didn't use any AD or IG yet while that archer already use all of his survial skills
and you approve to buff this OP class?
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not only that...Sb have faster attack rate than a normal archer
end game SB can almost cast downbrust 1 time per sec so it's like 1aps
end game archer only have 0.83 aps......not even close only demon archer with QS proc can compare to SB attack rate......and you approve this class to get buffed?.....
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patrickhuong wrote: »not only that...Sb have faster attack rate than a normal archer
end game SB can almost cast downbrust 1 time per sec so it's like 1aps
end game archer only have 0.83 aps......not even close only demon archer with QS proc can compare to SB attack rate......and you approve this class to get buffed?.....
I agree with what are you saying but still I aprove SB to get buffed. Doesnt mean I dont want archer to be upgraded or any of the first classes.0 -
bloodedone87 wrote: »patrickhuong wrote: »not only that...Sb have faster attack rate than a normal archer
end game SB can almost cast downbrust 1 time per sec so it's like 1aps
end game archer only have 0.83 aps......not even close only demon archer with QS proc can compare to SB attack rate......and you approve this class to get buffed?.....
I agree with what are you saying but still I aprove SB to get buffed. Doesnt mean I dont want archer to be upgraded or any of the first classes.
lol why do you even worry....SB and DB got buffed is already a fact......we already know what primal skills they will have
for SB i really love these 2 updates
sage moonblade...100% procs 30% damge increse (OP as hell 5s 30% damge increase every 15s)
lunar sacrifice no more deff nerf for SB......my god another survival skills......
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patrickhuong wrote: »bloodedone87 wrote: »patrickhuong wrote: »not only that...Sb have faster attack rate than a normal archer
end game SB can almost cast downbrust 1 time per sec so it's like 1aps
end game archer only have 0.83 aps......not even close only demon archer with QS proc can compare to SB attack rate......and you approve this class to get buffed?.....
I agree with what are you saying but still I aprove SB to get buffed. Doesnt mean I dont want archer to be upgraded or any of the first classes.
lol why do you even worry....SB and DB got buffed is already a fact......we already know what primal skills they will have
for SB i really love these 2 updates
sage moonblade...100% procs 30% damge increse (OP as hell 5s 30% damge increase every 15s)
lunar sacrifice no more deff nerf for SB......my god another survival skills......
I am not worried. I simply want SB to get more power. And I hope one day archers will get an upgrade too.0 -
Try the "Pestle of Re" quest. It gives a title too. Requirement lvl 100, starts at the PWI Promotions npc. You end up with a free makeover scroll, a "Sage/Demon bible" item and a title (Mulberry's Aid). The S/D bible can be traded in 10K Streams for a free Vacuity or S/D skillbook (random one specific to the class turning it in) and this skillbook is tradeable.patrickhuong wrote: »OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
If you've never seen it your toons probably have a free skillbook waiting. Suggest you run the quests
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i remember did this quest right before roll backaeternusdoleo wrote: »
Try the "Pestle of Re" quest. It gives a title too. Requirement lvl 100, starts at the PWI Promotions npc. You end up with a free makeover scroll, a "Sage/Demon bible" item and a title (Mulberry's Aid). The S/D bible can be traded in 10K Streams for a free Vacuity or S/D skillbook (random one specific to the class turning it in) and this skillbook is tradeable.patrickhuong wrote: »OMG.......sage and demon bibile?....do you have a clue what the freaking hell you are talking about?
i have played this game for 5 years and never see this thing exists
If you've never seen it your toons probably have a free skillbook waiting. Suggest you run the quests
i got blood vow for this quest.....but roll back made me lost it
did it again after roll back and got the 79 speed skill
i never did see that item though.....
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this thread.... i cant even.Pestle of Re. Access. go to PW Promotions Agent, pick the mentioned quest and you will get your bible
Thanks for posting something that makes sense.
I am just gonna shake my head and walk away.
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