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What was unique in NWO seems lost in MOD 6

agnaethaagnaetha Member Posts: 14 Arc User
edited May 2015 in General Discussion (PC)
I think Cryptic and developers have misinterpreted an important nuance in who plays NWO and how they go about it. In so doing, they have so changed the play mechanics within MOD 6 and have inadvertently alienated a large portion of the player base. MOD 6 is such an abrupt about-face in play style accommodation that it has changed accessibility to the game for many players. It leaves no middle ground after level 70 whereas previously there were play style choices at the top level, now there are none.

First and foremost, people play online for individual entertainment, no more no less. How they play is the nuance. What has made NWO extremely successful is that it accommodated a variety of play styles. One could be very successful and play a wide variety of content totally solo. In fact, most players will tell you they leveled up countless additional characters just that way, solo. Additionally, because the game was so well adapted to solo play even high end content became available to the solo player through the game mechanic employed by Cryptic that allowed large groups of players to mass in a zone either solo or in groups to achieve goals and rewards. I am referring to the Well of Dragons and Tiamat. These zones allowed solo players to work together, ungrouped, to complete quests and to achieve some of the best available gear in game. The variety of play styles these zones accommodated was almost unique among MMOs. This was the gold mine that Cryptic has turned its back on in MOD 6.

Someone powerful in Cryptic has decided that not only MUST top quality gear require groups to achieve, but that even interim quality gear, like blue gear now in DREAD RING must require groups to obtain. An adequately geared player (2000+ IL) cannot solo the mobs in DR without a lot of timing luck and a great deal of skill (and if you get a lag spike, you can kiss it goodbye). WoD is no better.

I've played this game since BETA and have spent far more $$$$ in zen that I would ever care to admit. I have been playing computerized games since 1982 and I have been playing online since EQ came on the scene. I am totally honest when I say I am beyond tired of having to group to be successful in an online game. (I can remember week nights in EQ staying up to 2 a.m. just to group for boss mobs, getting little of no gear, then heading to work at 7 a.m. next morning and coming back to do it again 2 nights later.) Now my play time is mine, I pay for it with either a monthly fee or in-game purchases. I want to play when it is convenient to me, not when it is convenient for others. MOD 6 has changed my ability to control when and where I want to play. Grinding gear solo, on one's own terms is one thing, grinding in ever-changing groups is quite another.

Cryptic has been listening to the guild leaders, guild members and group players who distain the solo player because they cannot hope understand them. These players feel that to make a game good the challenge must be to and for the group not to the individual. From their perspective solo players should not be allowed in their part of the game i.e., end game. In listening to them, Cryptic has alienated probably one-third of the player base if not more. We choose to play alone for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is the difficulties of dealing with PUGs and personalities. To expect us to suddenly change our attitude, our play style, after accommodating it so strongly and so well in MOD 5 is unreasonable.

Cryptic seems to have turned its back on the solo player, and if solo players cannot progress in game with a play style previously supported and nurtured by Cryptic, then solo players are very likely to turn their back on NWO and Cryptic.
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  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    There is some truth to what you have said.

    However, I can solo mobs in DR and Shar without luck. All I did was buy cheap level 70 blue gear on the AH and upgrade my free artifact weapon and offhand to purple.

    You just have to dodge/block a bit more than before and change some of your encounter and daily powers. It's all about a pretty significant revamping of strategies and gear, because the old stuff doesn't work well anymore.

    Cheers! :)
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  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ...well, some classes' solo capabilities are OK. Some others' are plain nonexistent in WoD & IwD, without great gear and specific builds at least.

    I definitely agree with the opening post, though, and wish to add the loss of bandwidth to the list. Unless one really, literally, dumps a four-digit sum into the game, multi-char gameplay is massively restricted - even with swapping of top enchantments already in the balance. Which - chaange aside - makes the game a lot more boring for me: Before I could keep five chars up to fighting trim and make some meaningful progress with any of them according to my day's tastes ot preferences, or the needs of the party. Now... ...two can be kept up to scratch. A third and fourth can be kept in a state where they can be readied on half an hours notice. And the progress is slow and tedious.

    No, I'm not calling for a reroll to Mod 5 ease, but mod 6 difficulty has simply overstretched it...
  • soltaswordsoltasword Member Posts: 290 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I am going to chime in here as well and agree with the OP. I enjoy solo play and it is pretty much gone from the game now for the average player like me. For me, Mod 5 difficulty was fine. I didn't have great armor, enchants were all just level 5, I had 1 piece of artifact gear but I had just got it right before M6 came out so it wasn't even leveled up to the first upgrade yet. There were things in M5 that I could not do solo and M6 has just blown that out of the water. I don't even play my HR now. The new difficulty just went way over board. It really needs to be toned down a bit. There were and are plenty of other ways to give the elite players what they want and the solo/average player what they want. It just didn't happen. As I said in another post, I work harder in this game that I do in real life. I come here to relax and unwind from the day, not be more stressed out.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    myowmyow wrote: »
    It's all about a pretty significant revamping of strategies and gear, because the old stuff doesn't work well anymore.
    Exactly! :cool:

    soltasword wrote: »
    Mod 5 difficulty was fine.
    Please don't take this in a negative manner, I'm stating it as more of a factual basis: Mod 5 was facerolling easy. The word 'Difficult' doesn't belong in the same sentence as 'Mod 5'.

    That being said, Mod 6 can use some tweaks for solo playing, and I agree it's something the Devs should look into. However, over all, I am a huge fan of the difficulty increase.

    We can agree to disagree, and that's cool... Just stating my counter point. :)
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  • gigarayzorgigarayzor Member Posts: 44 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    One of the things I always loved about Neverwinter was that the endgame and most content was accessible without requiring coordinating with a large guild of people I don't know, like, or want to talk to. Mod 6 has done a lot to block endgame content, but this game is still a lot better than a traditional MMO where we'd be doing large premade raids.
  • gleichgewichtnwgleichgewichtnw Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 147 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    NWO always was (more or less) more skill based then equip/difficulty based. Good Movement and timing allowed players to compensate a lack in equipment.

    But not more in M6. Now equip is all, if you want to make T2 legit. I remember the good old times, when new players done the spellplague dungeon without SF.
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