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A few questions

vangiggsyvangiggsy Member Posts: 43 Arc User
edited May 2015 in The Thieves' Den
1) Does Recovery increase stealth bar recharge or just encounters etc?

2) when using cos from stealth the bar drops very fast, I hear people saying to do this permanent but even using ss and bns doesn't seem to allow this for long...am I doing something wrong?

3) As an MI/Sab what do you think is the best pvp rotation? I use bns, ss and smoke bomb presently.

4) Short of running what is the best way to deal with Palladian? Their shield just seems to negate cos....

5) Any other advice appreciated.

Btw I have a 2200k item score with almost a complete burning set, soul, and greater vorpal.

Thanks
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  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    1) Stealth recharge is unaffected by Recovery IIRC

    2) "Permastealth" refers to a specific build which makes use of the build path called "Saboteuer", in which are many features that refill your stealthbar. It's generally considered either impossible or implausibly pointless in other builds. Of course, even with a Sabo build you need to learn to control the pace of your attacks.

    3) Stealth - CoS - SS from stealth(restealth + daze) - CoS - any offense encounter(proc OWTS) - more CoS shots - stealth finishes, enter ITC - SS finishes recharge, rinse and repeat the process

    4) Outgear him

    5) ...any other advice ...hmm, don't run too long with a Sabo setup. It takes the fun out of everything else.
  • vangiggsyvangiggsy Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Whats odd is my stealth bar seemed to go down slower and recover faster when I was MI/exe....switched to Sab with free respec
  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    vangiggsy wrote: »
    Whats odd is my stealth bar seemed to go down slower and recover faster when I was MI/exe....switched to Sab with free respec

    It recovers faster in Exec. Nothing odd. The capstone feat provides +20% increased stealth recharge as well as protection against 'recharge halt'.
  • vangiggsyvangiggsy Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Ok makes sense but then what makes Sab a better build for perma then? Owts?
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    vangiggsy wrote: »
    Ok makes sense but then what makes Sab a better build for perma then? Owts?

    piercing damage from SO makes it a stronger dps than the dps path
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  • mirrorballsmirrorballs Member Posts: 877 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2015
    vangiggsy wrote: »
    Ok makes sense but then what makes Sab a better build for perma then? Owts?

    Yes.

    OWTS has around similar ICD as ShadowStrike, (around 2s apart) so it's essentially the same thing as having two charges of SS. Not only that, but the devs have also given you a QOL fix, so that OWTS does not proc with SS... which is a leisure us Scoundrels don't have, since our SC procs on any dazing encounter as well. (It's technical stuff, but the point is that it's a lot easier to manage the ICD of OWTS).

    So as long as you can control the "pacing" of your attacks, you can manage an effective permastealth or semi-perma style of fighting where you remain either totally invisible from the enemy, or become visible only when you are untouchable.

    Also, in terms of damage, the Sabo has no equal. Nothing out-DPSs a Sabo in PvP. It's just no contest.
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