I realize this horse has been hit a few times, but I am begging someone to listen. Your players need something to do -STAT if there is going to be anyone left. I don't know whose idea it was to release mod 6 with only 3 T2 dungeons, but it was a really bad decision. That, coupled with the fact that practically speaking, many people I know are only running them once a day to get their protector cache leaves most players sitting in PE bored, and then logging off. In other MMO's, you could go and farm - crafting supplies, money, etc. In this game, you've taken away our ability to even do that by nerfing DH enchantments. Then, you took prevent us from running the only true endgame "raid" - Tiamat, first by releasing it far too difficult, and then by delaying the patch which is supposed to fix this. You've made leveling alts work and not fun, on account of the boon system (least burdensome) to the artifact system(most burdensome) which essentially allows only the richest characters to properly gear up their alts (see DH nerf above).
I used to buy zen here and there when I had things to do. Now, I feel like I would be throwing money away as, again, there is nothing to do. My recommendation, for what it is worth:
1) Prioritize the update/fix to Tiamat
2) Prioritize the fixing/re-release of the remaining dungeons (Spellplague, Karrundax, Idris, Frozen Heart, and most importantly, Castle Never - which your players LOVED as a dungeon.
3) Increase the drop rate of protector seals to encourage players to run T2's more frequently, or give a chance for additional protector caches as a chest reward.
Obviously, the bug fixes are important as well, but more important i think are giving players a reason to log in and play the game.
2 is "floating" somewhere .. underway.. at some point lol.
3 Quit being delusional Elven sets are by all means NOT to be easy to obtain. There are ppl running 1/3 or 2/3 and some running full runs on T2, idk about you but I am not having it hard to find party Perhaps its time to move to a big guild where running T2's is bread and butter, given you have difficulties to pug them. There are ppl already in full elven sets too. Those hard working "ant" type of players.
There is more then lfg
There are private channels
There are few ZERG like guilds
There is a friends list <<<< but this you will have to work on yourself
2 is "floating" somewhere .. underway.. at some point lol.
3 Quit being delusional Elven sets are by all means NOT to be easy to obtain. There are ppl running 1/3 or 2/3 and some running full runs on T2, idk about you but I am not having it hard to find party Perhaps its time to move to a big guild where running T2's is bread and butter, given you have difficulties to pug them. There are ppl already in full elven sets too. Those hard working "ant" type of players.
There is more then lfg
There are private channels
There are few ZERG like guilds
There is a friends list <<<< but this you will have to work on yourself
You make a lot of assumptions here. I don't have any trouble finding groups if I want to run t2's - i tis actually wanting to run them with incentive
probably the only useful thread here from a while...
i share your feelings too and the only solution i found right know is playing 1 hours a day once every couple of days
4) Add rp from boss drops, end chest or the seal store. And decent rp, not a pearl. There's no reason to do more than 1 dungeon a day imo. In my case I rarely do that.
5) Make boss drops BoE again, why the over-focus on BoP? I just don't get why they'd actively reduce and restrict the rewards you can get more and more.
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fr3akout3Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 72
There is incentive which is protector seals that drop from each miniboss its just alot of runs total, gotta move yo lazy butt.
I think you got it wrong, wouldn't you be the lazy butt sitting down all day grinding 2-4 seals etc and only 40 in 18hrs.
There are other things to do outside the house like working full time and having families or spending time with friends.
I am not keen to grid for the elven set which gives minimal boosts, which is not going to do anything really anyway.
We need to have 40 seals per run, every run and the boss needs to drop unbound gear..
.. So what do u do when u have the elven gear? Farm what? Look forward to what? There are no drops to sell and the elol artifacts seem to be the main seller... Go figure, grind for nothing!
Give us unbound loot from all bosses and everyone will be happy to grind again and again, over and over again.
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
2 is "floating" somewhere .. underway.. at some point lol.
3 Quit being delusional Elven sets are by all means NOT to be easy to obtain. There are ppl running 1/3 or 2/3 and some running full runs on T2, idk about you but I am not having it hard to find party Perhaps its time to move to a big guild where running T2's is bread and butter, given you have difficulties to pug them. There are ppl already in full elven sets too. Those hard working "ant" type of players.
There is more then lfg
There are private channels
There are few ZERG like guilds
There is a friends list <<<< but this you will have to work on yourself
sorry i find it hard to find legit pt thanks.
examples :
lf 1m for ecc to know the last boss bug.
speed runs(companion bug)
lf 1m speed runs(feytouched)
I realize this horse has been hit a few times, but I am begging someone to listen. Your players need something to do -STAT if there is going to be anyone left. I don't know whose idea it was to release mod 6 with only 3 T2 dungeons, but it was a really bad decision. That, coupled with the fact that practically speaking, many people I know are only running them once a day to get their protector cache leaves most players sitting in PE bored, and then logging off. In other MMO's, you could go and farm - crafting supplies, money, etc. In this game, you've taken away our ability to even do that by nerfing DH enchantments. Then, you took prevent us from running the only true endgame "raid" - Tiamat, first by releasing it far too difficult, and then by delaying the patch which is supposed to fix this. You've made leveling alts work and not fun, on account of the boon system (least burdensome) to the artifact system(most burdensome) which essentially allows only the richest characters to properly gear up their alts (see DH nerf above).
I used to buy zen here and there when I had things to do. Now, I feel like I would be throwing money away as, again, there is nothing to do. My recommendation, for what it is worth:
1) Prioritize the update/fix to Tiamat
2) Prioritize the fixing/re-release of the remaining dungeons (Spellplague, Karrundax, Idris, Frozen Heart, and most importantly, Castle Never - which your players LOVED as a dungeon.
3) Increase the drop rate of protector seals to encourage players to run T2's more frequently, or give a chance for additional protector caches as a chest reward.
Obviously, the bug fixes are important as well, but more important i think are giving players a reason to log in and play the game.
Amen! That is what I did today. I used to spend money on this game and now I log on, get 40 pro seals and then look around hmmmm cbf running elol over and over hoping for artifacts and the t2 gear is bound so... Boring.. I log off, my char is already 4.1k and the protector set is not that much better either or game changing so I don't even bother running for the seals, only if i got nothing else to do or no other games to play.. NW has become a second class game and it used to be a whole new world.
I think you got it wrong, wouldn't you be the lazy butt sitting down all day grinding 2-4 seals etc and only 40 in 18hrs.
How is that being lazy farming something for 18h ?! You gotta put up some effort and time.
You guys complaining about stuff NOT being rewarding enough for you..
There are other things to do outside the house like working full time and having families or spending time with friends.
I am not keen to grid for the elven set which gives minimal boosts, which is not going to do anything really anyway.
We need to have 40 seals per run, every run and the boss needs to drop unbound gear..
.. So what do u do when u have the elven gear? Farm what? Look forward to what? There are no drops to sell and the elol artifacts seem to be the main seller... Go figure, grind for nothing!
Give us unbound loot from all bosses and everyone will be happy to grind again and again, over and over again.
Duh you say alot of self-contradicting stuff you complain about rewards from farming " dungeon" over and over again and then you talk about having life ahaha... /facepalm.
Its like you guys missing things as they used to be back in mod 5 which pretty much been mod of "mining AD" all over the place and Cryptic didn't really liked it cause it was affecting their sales, because why would free 2 play dudes buy stuff for real money if they can farm them for free right ?
Its like you guys missing things as they used to be back in mod 5 which pretty much been mod of "mining AD" all over the place and Cryptic didn't really liked it cause it was affecting their sales, because why would free 2 play dudes buy stuff for real money if they can farm them for free right ?
...which is kinda BS business logit BTW as the kind of people willing to opt for the "long farm" route instead of the "buy nao" one tend not react well to that alternative getting curtailed.
As in, they're more likely to stop playing altogether (and turn to another MMO) than open their wallets.
Especially when a fair bit of the game plain isn't working like it should.
But this is like never ending story..is almost like a game feature.
A valid point. But the issue is that ATM things are considerably more buggy than usual, to the point where they're prompting people to turn 360 degrees and walk away at least until, say, rank 4 powers actually work.
When baseline stuff like that and several class features* are crapping out, just to name a few issues, it's fairly safe to assume the customer base isn't exactly encouraged to invest their monies in the product for the time being.
*my current personal pet peeve is the Pally Sanctuary only actually engaging roughly 1/3 of the time, and that's mainly 'cause all my other classes are at the 60+ level and I'm not touching *that* trainwreck until things improve...
A valid point. But the issue is that ATM things are considerably more buggy than usual, to the point where they're prompting people to turn 360 degrees and walk away at least until, say, rank 4 powers actually work.
When baseline stuff like that and several class features* are crapping out, just to name a few issues, it's fairly safe to assume the customer base isn't exactly encouraged to invest their monies in the product for the time being.
*my current personal pet peeve is the Pally Sanctuary only actually engaging roughly 1/3 of the time, and that's mainly 'cause all my other classes are at the 60+ level and I'm not touching *that* trainwreck until things improve...
Then why is the zax all of a sudden highly active? For the first time in months people are buying AD as much as zen. Is it all the feytouched enchantments being skyhigh cost?
Then why is the zax all of a sudden highly active? For the first time in months people are buying AD as much as zen. Is it all the feytouched enchantments being skyhigh cost?
You sure it's not mainly people canceling their requests so they can use the AD for :stuff:? IIRC that's what suddenly cleared the 3+ million backlog around the double-RP weekend...
Bugs are bad but lack of new content is a bigger problem.
Cryptic made one very nice new zone in module 6: spinward rise
Problem is .... there is little reason to return to spinward rise except to farm nodes.
I did Tiamat 100-200 times in module 5. Don't care if I ever do it again.
Heroic encounters in well of dragon were never very fun. Well of dragons has always been a dreary place.
Heroic encounters in IceWind Dale and Spinward Rise are interesting/fun, however difficulty is high and rewards are low.
It's more profitable to farm nodes in Spinward Rise and do dragon heralds at xx:45 than to do HE's or T1/T2.
I did T1/T2 for a month after module 6 launch, but I can't do the same dungeons forever.
I stopped farming for protector seals because (1) I am bored of dungeons and (2) I prefer stats on some elemental alliance gear.
Some protector seal gear gives power/armPen or crit/ArmPen or power/recovery. I have enough ArmPen but want more crit, so instead I choose elemental alliance gear with power/crit or recovery/crit.
Here's what I would like to see.
Better rewards for heroic encounters.
Make all epic heroic encounters in IceWind Dale and in new module 6 zone give rewards similar (or better) than Dragon Heralds in Well of Dragons. I would love to farm epic HE's in SpinWard rise or in Icewind Dale.
Bugs are bad but lack of new content is a bigger problem.
That's more a matter of perspective mind you, and personally I'd see it the other way around. Lack of new content is mainly relevant for veteran players who've been at the game for a while and have already "seen the elephant" - for newbies everything is new by default anyway.
Bugs OTOH are a real problem for both - they may well alienate curious newcomers and given how unforgiving the end-game difficulty tends to be ATM I don't really think stuff failing under the hood is exactly making the vets' life more enjoyable.
Glitchy mechanics aren't making it more enjoyable leveling my new Pally at least.
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fr3akout3Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 72
How is that being lazy farming something for 18h ?! You gotta put up some effort and time.
You guys complaining about stuff NOT being rewarding enough for you..
There is always NW Legit channel for you
Duh you say alot of self-contradicting stuff you complain about rewards from farming " dungeon" over and over again and then you talk about having life ahaha... /facepalm.
Its like you guys missing things as they used to be back in mod 5 which pretty much been mod of "mining AD" all over the place and Cryptic didn't really liked it cause it was affecting their sales, because why would free 2 play dudes buy stuff for real money if they can farm them for free right ?
Dude, maybe you have selective reading and only read what you think is right.
How is it rewarding to grind for a set that is hardly better than elemental alliance/ward? Where is the reward in that? Maybe you have no idea what Rewarding actually means in NW since you only joined Jan 2015.. Never been around to actually experience rewarding Tier 2 dungeons etc where you can make 1 mill ad per day even after splitting..
We need unbound loot from bosses to make things more interesting, simple things that we can actually do and not grind all day every day for a set that gives minimal stat bonuses which is no even necessary at all.
Then why is the zax all of a sudden highly active? For the first time in months people are buying AD as much as zen. Is it all the feytouched enchantments being skyhigh cost?
...and lostmouse toot, and RP for the teal artifacts, and...
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torontodaveMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 992Arc User
my char is already 4.1k and the protector set is not that much better either or game changing so I don't even bother running for the seals, only if i got nothing else to do or no other games to play.. NW has become a second class game and it used to be a whole new world.
This is why the Foundry needs real rewards. =X And to the OP: If you're bored of the content, Try playing some Foundry quests. They really are better than the daily grind. =X
I just wish those Foundrys would give you the same RP that a Dread/Sharandar Lair would. =X
Or even a chance at a 'Foundry 3 piece set' =X
NW-DSQ39N5SJ - 'To Infinity, and BEYOND!' - Spelljammer Quest. Skyships, Indiana Jones moments NW-DC9R4J5EH - 'The Black Pearl' - Spelljammer! Phlo Riders and Space Orcs
Thanks for all the fish.
...Now THIS would be an idea for a design contest: Design armour sets. Everybody can participate, make it eqStatTotal to the upcoming Shar or DR campaign armour, give a prize for the best design for each class (including looks!) for the winners in a forum or blog poll.
To be bought with tokens acquired in foundries. Of course not any Foundry, same system as the old Daily Foundry criterion: Someone with authority has to ned them off as adequate.
This is, sadly, the truth. If you're well geared, done all of your campaigns months ago and you have nothing to achieve but RP grind, there's nothing to do other than that 1 single eTOS run for your t2's. Heralds? nah, Jagged Dancing Blades all over, one shotting your dragons. I've been dancing with random people in PE for months now, welcome to your new reality.
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2 is "floating" somewhere .. underway.. at some point lol.
3 Quit being delusional Elven sets are by all means NOT to be easy to obtain. There are ppl running 1/3 or 2/3 and some running full runs on T2, idk about you but I am not having it hard to find party Perhaps its time to move to a big guild where running T2's is bread and butter, given you have difficulties to pug them. There are ppl already in full elven sets too. Those hard working "ant" type of players.
There is more then lfg
There are private channels
There are few ZERG like guilds
There is a friends list <<<< but this you will have to work on yourself
You make a lot of assumptions here. I don't have any trouble finding groups if I want to run t2's - i tis actually wanting to run them with incentive
only assumptions are on 2.
There is incentive which is protector seals that drop from each miniboss its just alot of runs total, gotta move yo lazy butt.
i share your feelings too and the only solution i found right know is playing 1 hours a day once every couple of days
5) Make boss drops BoE again, why the over-focus on BoP? I just don't get why they'd actively reduce and restrict the rewards you can get more and more.
I think you got it wrong, wouldn't you be the lazy butt sitting down all day grinding 2-4 seals etc and only 40 in 18hrs.
There are other things to do outside the house like working full time and having families or spending time with friends.
I am not keen to grid for the elven set which gives minimal boosts, which is not going to do anything really anyway.
We need to have 40 seals per run, every run and the boss needs to drop unbound gear..
.. So what do u do when u have the elven gear? Farm what? Look forward to what? There are no drops to sell and the elol artifacts seem to be the main seller... Go figure, grind for nothing!
Give us unbound loot from all bosses and everyone will be happy to grind again and again, over and over again.
sorry i find it hard to find legit pt thanks.
examples :
lf 1m for ecc to know the last boss bug.
speed runs(companion bug)
lf 1m speed runs(feytouched)
Amen! That is what I did today. I used to spend money on this game and now I log on, get 40 pro seals and then look around hmmmm cbf running elol over and over hoping for artifacts and the t2 gear is bound so... Boring.. I log off, my char is already 4.1k and the protector set is not that much better either or game changing so I don't even bother running for the seals, only if i got nothing else to do or no other games to play.. NW has become a second class game and it used to be a whole new world.
You guys complaining about stuff NOT being rewarding enough for you..
There is always NW Legit channel for you
Duh you say alot of self-contradicting stuff you complain about rewards from farming " dungeon" over and over again and then you talk about having life ahaha... /facepalm.
Its like you guys missing things as they used to be back in mod 5 which pretty much been mod of "mining AD" all over the place and Cryptic didn't really liked it cause it was affecting their sales, because why would free 2 play dudes buy stuff for real money if they can farm them for free right ?
...which is kinda BS business logit BTW as the kind of people willing to opt for the "long farm" route instead of the "buy nao" one tend not react well to that alternative getting curtailed.
As in, they're more likely to stop playing altogether (and turn to another MMO) than open their wallets.
Especially when a fair bit of the game plain isn't working like it should.
But this is like never ending story..is almost like a game feature.
A valid point. But the issue is that ATM things are considerably more buggy than usual, to the point where they're prompting people to turn 360 degrees and walk away at least until, say, rank 4 powers actually work.
When baseline stuff like that and several class features* are crapping out, just to name a few issues, it's fairly safe to assume the customer base isn't exactly encouraged to invest their monies in the product for the time being.
*my current personal pet peeve is the Pally Sanctuary only actually engaging roughly 1/3 of the time, and that's mainly 'cause all my other classes are at the 60+ level and I'm not touching *that* trainwreck until things improve...
Then why is the zax all of a sudden highly active? For the first time in months people are buying AD as much as zen. Is it all the feytouched enchantments being skyhigh cost?
You sure it's not mainly people canceling their requests so they can use the AD for :stuff:? IIRC that's what suddenly cleared the 3+ million backlog around the double-RP weekend...
Cryptic made one very nice new zone in module 6: spinward rise
Problem is .... there is little reason to return to spinward rise except to farm nodes.
I did Tiamat 100-200 times in module 5. Don't care if I ever do it again.
Heroic encounters in well of dragon were never very fun. Well of dragons has always been a dreary place.
Heroic encounters in IceWind Dale and Spinward Rise are interesting/fun, however difficulty is high and rewards are low.
It's more profitable to farm nodes in Spinward Rise and do dragon heralds at xx:45 than to do HE's or T1/T2.
I did T1/T2 for a month after module 6 launch, but I can't do the same dungeons forever.
I stopped farming for protector seals because (1) I am bored of dungeons and (2) I prefer stats on some elemental alliance gear.
Some protector seal gear gives power/armPen or crit/ArmPen or power/recovery. I have enough ArmPen but want more crit, so instead I choose elemental alliance gear with power/crit or recovery/crit.
Here's what I would like to see.
Better rewards for heroic encounters.
Make all epic heroic encounters in IceWind Dale and in new module 6 zone give rewards similar (or better) than Dragon Heralds in Well of Dragons. I would love to farm epic HE's in SpinWard rise or in Icewind Dale.
That's more a matter of perspective mind you, and personally I'd see it the other way around. Lack of new content is mainly relevant for veteran players who've been at the game for a while and have already "seen the elephant" - for newbies everything is new by default anyway.
Bugs OTOH are a real problem for both - they may well alienate curious newcomers and given how unforgiving the end-game difficulty tends to be ATM I don't really think stuff failing under the hood is exactly making the vets' life more enjoyable.
Glitchy mechanics aren't making it more enjoyable leveling my new Pally at least.
Dude, maybe you have selective reading and only read what you think is right.
How is it rewarding to grind for a set that is hardly better than elemental alliance/ward? Where is the reward in that? Maybe you have no idea what Rewarding actually means in NW since you only joined Jan 2015.. Never been around to actually experience rewarding Tier 2 dungeons etc where you can make 1 mill ad per day even after splitting..
We need unbound loot from bosses to make things more interesting, simple things that we can actually do and not grind all day every day for a set that gives minimal stat bonuses which is no even necessary at all.
...and lostmouse toot, and RP for the teal artifacts, and...
This is why the Foundry needs real rewards. =X And to the OP: If you're bored of the content, Try playing some Foundry quests. They really are better than the daily grind. =X
I just wish those Foundrys would give you the same RP that a Dread/Sharandar Lair would. =X
Or even a chance at a 'Foundry 3 piece set' =X
NW-DC9R4J5EH - 'The Black Pearl' - Spelljammer! Phlo Riders and Space Orcs
Thanks for all the fish.
To be bought with tokens acquired in foundries. Of course not any Foundry, same system as the old Daily Foundry criterion: Someone with authority has to ned them off as adequate.
...oh, well. One can dream, huh?
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