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I have not gotten responses to other inquiries I have made about the loot in eLOL, so I thought I may as well start a new thread about it. . .
I keep seeing players recommend running eLOL a lot. Is this because the loot has been upgraded to level 70 purple gear items? Or does it having something to do with getting seals to trade for level 70 purple gear from a vendor?
The Neverwinter Wiki is ridiculously outdated under Mod 6 - hard to find any updated info there. I guess more people are playing the game and not many are too worried about updating it.
I keep seeing players recommend running eLOL a lot. Is this because the loot has been upgraded to level 70 purple gear items? Or does it having something to do with getting seals to trade for level 70 purple gear from a vendor?
The Neverwinter Wiki is ridiculously outdated under Mod 6 - hard to find any updated info there. I guess more people are playing the game and not many are too worried about updating it.
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myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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If you get a good tank, the dungeon is extremely easy.
Unfortunality you dont need a Tank if you got enough DPS. If everybody knows how to handle boss 1 you can "tank" him with a GWF also. But its much easier with a Tank. Thats true. And yes, eLoL is one of the easiest dungeons. Same as VT. Fast and good to get artifacts/ADs/Seals.
Thanks for the responses!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
I just love it when u have 2 TRs that run laps around the dragon and no tank to anchor it.
So how do you handle the first boss without a tank? I have never successfully done it without a GF or OP to absorb the one-shot spear hits.
And please tailor your advice to the ilvl 2k crowd please, not the ilvl 4k++++.
Yeah I don't get it when people say that this dungeon is "extremely easy".
Yes I admit that it is currently the easiest epic dungeon. That doesn't make it "easy".
I would love to see a video of some of these l33t players do an ELOL run with minimal gear and zero exploits, if for no other reason than to show us casual newbs how it can be done.
Better yet, I'd love to see a video of one of these l33t players solo queueing into ELOL and carrying a hapless pug team to victory.
Well, it is easy.
A good group, using no exploits, will run it no problem in under 10 minutes.
But good group here is the problem. By good I mean properly specced characters above 2k IL, who know how to play together and how to defeat the boss's.
The problems all arise from just bad players. Not bad characters, but bad players using them. As a Dc, this is my pet hate in elol final boss. Players take massive damage, then for some reason decide to run away from the DC as fast as possible and go round the other side of the dragon, so DC then has to chase after you to heal. While this happens, someone else needs healing so Dc then has to chase back again.
This though is more of an issue of players not knowing how to work together as a team rather than an elol specific issue.
Ok. That might be the answer I was looking for. With my limited playing time, not sure if I will be able to do many eLOL runs . . .
LOL! Funny!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Ok. When does the boss throws this spears? Did you ever "read" the boss actions? Hint:
Get all ( and i mean ALL!!!) close around the boss when he made his first jump. Till to the secound phase at 50% stand so close as you can at the boss ( ALL!!). The jumping red zones are very small. Just take a stape beside and after that again ALL at the boss. When he gets to his secound phase ( dragon add ...) check if he throw any spear ( just check it and than think about how to defeat a boss). At 50% you can kite him if you want. You can kite the dragon. Both dont deal that much damage, you can see clearly red zones to avoid and thats it.
But wots the problem? Problem is simple:
Our "smart" caster classes like our CWs/SWs/DCs are standing far away from boss. Where does he makes his red spots? Random? OK...its random. When does he make his spears? If you are to far away from him? OK...its cuzz your to far away from him. So...stand close.
True...this is really hard to stand close at boss to 50%...really hard.
Its so funny:
No clue how a boss works but its so sure it MUST be something about gear...
P.S.: A GWF with unstoppable can tank him. Rest can stand close to boss behind the boss. "Genius" tactic.
Ok, your entire strategy seems to revolve around the player "thinking". So your tactic is immediately non-compatible with 95% of the player-base.
The first boss is the hardest without a GF/Pally tank to take the hits. Without actual tank, your next best option is CW with shield on tab + HR fox. The boss has 3 attacks on the first phase. He does his jump/lunge strike, then throws a spear, and the mount will do frontal attack.
The CW will have to dodge after the jump to dodge the spear attack and stay out of melee range so they do not get hit by the mount. The HR fox shift will help out whenever the CW misses the queue to dodge.
At 50% when it gets off the mount, the fight becomes really easy. Focus kill the mount, then kill the boss. The boss attack is extremely slow in this phase so no one should be dying by it.
I usually solo queue to eLOL in hopes of getting either on the scorpion or last boss fight. I can "tank" one scorpion easily and anchoring lostmouth. Lostmouth is a bit tough as a GWF to tank because no way to dodge the lasers and just have to either take it and die or use AoS to avoid it. CW has a better chance at tanking Lostmouth with shield, which I do often when I solo queue with mine. With shield, you can take his damage and dodge his lasers. Tanking Lostmouth is all about knowing how to move back into his face after his attack. Too many tanks just like to keep moving him too much and getting everyone killed. Also, a lot of the pugs do not understand positioning. There are many places where you will not get hit by the fire balls flying around. If you do not know where to stand, you should probably be hugging the dragon.
I do quite a lot of eLoL and tend to advertise on legit for people to join. You can always PM me in game if you want to run one with me.
Yes, there is a large percentage of the player base with a Leeroy Jenkins mentality; not sure if it is 95% or not, but maybe . . .
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
Good one ^^
Ever tried to stay closer to the boss? You dont have to stand IN the boss, but close. Guess which skill he dont use. If you say " Ofc he still throws spears": Check if a compagnion stand far away. This counts as an enemy too for the boss.
So the boss only throws spears at characters that are a long distance away from the boss? Okay that is good to know. I didn't realize that and, based on my experiences, not many other players have realized that either. Thank you for that.
Sekhmet@kvetchus_
Guilds: Greycloaks, Blackcloaks, Whitecloaks, Goldcloaks, Browncloaks, Spiritcloaks, Bluecloaks, Silvercloaks, Black Dawn
Tredecim: The Cloak Alliance
In module 5 no one "learns" the boss cuzz his spear damage was like a baby punch. And keep in mind: Also compagnions are enemys for the boss. If the are to far away ( like the healing ones) he will throw spears. You can find som vids from eLoL without an GF/OP.
My first run was with blue items from wod. Than i ran like 1000 times eLoL to get stuff. After that i ran t2. Ofc its much much easier with a good grp and a TS. But eLoL is doable with rnd, if they play smart.
Again - if he is one-shotting your party over an over don't get pissed at your DC -- if you have 70HP and he's hitting you for 150K, there's not much a DC can do about that as far as healing goes. A solid GF is very useful, but not necessary. I've had parties of me (CW) and another CW, an HR, a TR, and a DC be able to win (took several tries) once we stopped trying to zerg him and all switched to debuffing powers. You can't control him, he's immune, so it's all about debuffs.
Sekhmet@kvetchus_
Guilds: Greycloaks, Blackcloaks, Whitecloaks, Goldcloaks, Browncloaks, Spiritcloaks, Bluecloaks, Silvercloaks, Black Dawn
Tredecim: The Cloak Alliance
Thanks - you seem well-informed.
Is this T1 gear new level 70 purple gear? Or does that not exist at this point in time?
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."