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Whats with the ridiculous trade house prices??
silktrocity
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Are the prices really this outrageous in the PC version as well? Or is it because Xbox players are new to MMO's?
Do you really have to TRY and sell your 5gold uncommon horse for 75k AD???
Do you really think people are going to buy your T1 helmet for 100k AD???
What gripes me the most is the wasted space because people are attempting to sell HAMSTER that EVERYONE gets at the beginning of the game (and at ridiculous prices) No I do not want to buy your friggin ragged tunics and pants for 2k.
Why isn't their some sort of maximum cap to what you can set your beginning price at for specific rarity items? Or better yet, don't allow items that EVERYONE GETS to be placed on the AH.
Also, why aren't people using the buy out prices!?!?!?
Do you really have to TRY and sell your 5gold uncommon horse for 75k AD???
Do you really think people are going to buy your T1 helmet for 100k AD???
What gripes me the most is the wasted space because people are attempting to sell HAMSTER that EVERYONE gets at the beginning of the game (and at ridiculous prices) No I do not want to buy your friggin ragged tunics and pants for 2k.
Why isn't their some sort of maximum cap to what you can set your beginning price at for specific rarity items? Or better yet, don't allow items that EVERYONE GETS to be placed on the AH.
Also, why aren't people using the buy out prices!?!?!?
Lady Vayo TR - Silky OP - Lord Reven DC (retired) - Lady Luck HR (retired)
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- I can't speak for PC, but high bid starting bid prices is nothing new to any game with an AH. Unfortunately, greed over common sense.
- Again, greed over common sense (they know someone will be dumb enough to actually buy them. Similar to how email spammers convince people to log into their bank accounts using phishing pages/links)
- Greed. They need the AD, they'll try and get it any way they can.
- You're right, you don't want to buy it and neither do I, but they know someone else will because they're not smart enough to know they can easily get it themselves for free or out of pure laziness.
- This makes sense to me and I agree.
- The idea is, if people really want the item, they'll get into bidding wars with others, potentially driving of the original sought after price. I, for one, would rather buy it now than wait to be outbid the last few seconds with no time to counter bid.
Mounts 1300 AD PC
T1 helmet (high Prophet) 5 under 25000AD PC
I don't understand the clothes and "treasures" either, but they got listed on PC, too. Much lower prices.
Capping would be bad. Players control the AH, Caps would put Cryptic in control, not a good thing. Best to just wait it out. As players eat the listing fees for listing junk, it will slow down. In the meantime, just laugh to yourself and know those listings are costing the person listing that HAMSTER money. It makes me smile.
Buy out prices: Due to the busted, crappy search functions it is difficult to finds items. The "fix" today did little to improve it. The default listings show low starting bid, no buyout items first. Some players think this helps them sell, I don't.
HTH
Why on earth would they send you hate mail? That's just... silly. When I see people doing what you did, I buy the item, and then relist it for just barely under the next lowest price. Netting myself some free AD basically.
But to be on topic here, I have played the PC version and prices are much much different over there. However, there are some items, such as all the newbie crud that still sells for fairly high prices on PC. My best advice would be to not really worry about the people listing things for extremely high prices. The market will adjust as supply and demand for certain items changes. And items that are listed for WAY above average market value? Well I promise you those just won't sell. Simple as that.
Pup - Level 70 4.2k Buff/Debuff AC DC
XBL GT: TehPuppy
They send it because they have their item at starting bid for about 15% higher than my buyout price. The way I see it is if I don't plan on using it why not sell it for a fair price to help a less fortunate player. AD comes easy enough as is. I have only had 1 item so far not be bought at buyout price and that was because someone was a few thousand AD away. I removed the item and relisted it about 4.8k AD cheaper so the guy could buy it.
I have been trying to sell several T1 epics on the AH. I always post at the price the game is suggesting (always much lower then anyone elses ridiculous starting prices.) and they still are not selling. EVEN when posting a much lower buy out price.
My theory is that if you post a buy out price, your item isn't going to even be seen because it'll categorize itself much lower then the first 400 slots that show up. Maybe this is correct?
T1 epics will most likely NEVER sell for more than their salvage value. Regardless of the "suggested" price. If you're looking to sell T1s, check the salvage value on it and then either list it in the AH with it's buyout somewhere below that salvage value, OR, salvage it into RAD and just take that instead.
Pup - Level 70 4.2k Buff/Debuff AC DC
XBL GT: TehPuppy
+1 aaaand THIS^
I think its just new MMO'ers seeing something that have no idea what it is worth and jump up and down screaming "I have something thats of value!" and then post it on the AH hoping that the sky will open up and rain down AD, smh.
The no buyout option drives me absolutely bonkers. The point of it is to sell it. You post it for 4 days and its now on day 2 and the bid hasnt changed...buyout option! On top of that, you've been undercutted so you lose regardless. But, the stupidity pours down onto the undercutter and he does the same and leaves out the buyout option. I have a great deal of AD and when i want to spend it, I want it now. Why make me wait 4 days when I'm willing to pay for your asking price in the first place!?
Selling a drop for a lower price isn't a loss. After all, you got the item at effectively no cost. If you want to sell under the current market prices, go for it. Selling stuff with creation costs at a loss doesn't make any sense though. Do people just not understand they are losing AD in those cases? Even if they got some of the mats from opening lottery/gamble boxes, there's still an associated AD cost for all those keys they are just throwing away.
Don't get me wrong, I'll snap up those enchantments for personal use when people sell them for half (or less) the production costs. I can buy a Lesser Soulforged enchantment for less than the price of a coalescent ward -- that's nuts! I mean, it's actually cheaper to buy two lesser and a coalescent ward to make a normal version of any enchantment out there. You save significantly on the cost of the wards (one vs. three). In general, the prices for rank 7 and above gem enchantments and all weapon/armor enchantments really should be much higher.
While I'll take advantage of the stupidity of others, what bugs me about the undercutting in this case is it means people can't make a business out of farming mats and making stuff to sell. Why bother making the stuff when you will always get undercut by a 12 year old with daddy's credit card buying thousands of keys to get all the marks and wards they need? Ultimately that will hurt the market.
As for the AH list, the fixes to the filters are nice, but the list really needs to allow column sorting/filtering and the ability to go past the current 400 item limit. Even after the filter fix it's still hard to find a Mark of Potency -- buyouts are past the item limit. Frankly, if they aren't going to give us sorts and larger result sets, they need to list all the items with buyouts before those without. Bidding is for chumps.