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tiamat is way to op.

syrickwolfsyrickwolf Member Posts: 102
edited May 2015 in PvE Discussion
i like the dragon heralds best group i had we beat all but 1 thats a good number.but tiamat is not physically possible for even bis super exp and good players. its not possible and if you want to argue it is show me a video of someone doing it legit.
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  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    I agree and don't waste my time

    I think it is one of the things which will be fixed

    But

    I donot understand how to advance my gear

    Most epic DDs are too hard for a normal which has not been preformed
  • syrickwolfsyrickwolf Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2015
    urlord283 wrote: »
    I agree and don't waste my time

    I think it is one of the things which will be fixed

    But

    I donot understand how to advance my gear

    Most epic DDs are too hard for a normal which has not been preformed
    honestly most people are using exploits to beat them. because you cant otherwise. if they do it legit then they jsut do the first 2 bosses then quit and repeat. your better off doing pvp its better gear that way anyways.
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    If it has to be nerfed then the rewards have to be lvl 125 blue gear too, because giving T2 gear to anyone entering tiamat really sucks. There's no way the challenge of ToS, GWD and eCC is on par with mod 5 tiamat.

    Or private instances. For an endgame instance it's a no-brainer not to have to bear the worst an open party can give us. I'm pretty sure 25 ToS or GWD capable players can kill tiamat.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    syrickwolf wrote: »
    honestly most people are using exploits to beat them. because you cant otherwise. if they do it legit then they jsut do the first 2 bosses then quit and repeat. your better off doing pvp its better gear that way anyways.

    I am doing epic ToS all 3 bosses legit already and working on epic GWD legit. After I eventually finish GWD, I will try to tackle the monster eCC.
  • syrickwolfsyrickwolf Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2015
    I am doing epic ToS all 3 bosses legit already and working on epic GWD legit. After I eventually finish GWD, I will try to tackle the monster eCC.

    videos m8 or it didnt happenXD ok i do believe you. i just want videos to prove it is possible and when you make them be sure to show off your gear and everything
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    syrickwolf wrote: »
    videos m8 or it didnt happenXD ok i do believe you. i just want videos to prove it is possible and when you make them be sure to show off your gear and everything

    Please refer to signature days before mod 6, to get some idea of what my gear was like before mod 6. Tomorrow afternoon I will send you a screenshot of my gear when I am back in game, but until then, diogene0 can confirm to have seen my cw's gear this mod and I will straight up tell you I got 2.2k ilvl and the groups I do epic ToS with rarely feature someone with more then 3k. At the end of the day it just takes a group of excellent players who work well as a team. Gear is not the issue. If you want a video to prove its possible, mamaluke posted one just recently. I can do a run and post a screenshot for you but I lack any decent recording software. Trust me, last mod when I did 10k gs solo CN on perma tr, I tried recording it. I can send you that vid and you will see how poor the quality is.
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    syrickwolf wrote: »
    videos m8 or it didnt happenXD ok i do believe you. i just want videos to prove it is possible and when you make them be sure to show off your gear and everything

    ToS is very easy with a competent group. https://youtu.be/aZkVok9PZ6A

    Also, already done without CWs and GF instead of OP.
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  • syrickwolfsyrickwolf Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2015
    Please refer to signature days before mod 6, to get some idea of what my gear was like before mod 6. Tomorrow afternoon I will send you a screenshot of my gear when I am back in game, but until then, diogene0 can confirm to have seen my cw's gear this mod and I will straight up tell you I got 2.2k ilvl and the groups I do epic ToS with rarely feature someone with more then 3k. At the end of the day it just takes a group of excellent players who work well as a team. Gear is not the issue. If you want a video to prove its possible, mamaluke posted one just recently. I can do a run and post a screenshot for you but I lack any decent recording software. Trust me, last mod when I did 10k gs solo CN on perma tr, I tried recording it. I can send you that vid and you will see how poor the quality is.
    thanks a ton i apreciate your honesty. i wasnt wanting proof for me. i was wanting proof for the others complaining about "oh its impossbru wit my grean gear cause i cauldnt do it on the first try "
  • arcanaxearcanaxe Member Posts: 192 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    The only way apparently to finish Tiamant is to do what these exploiting rubbish players are doing, but by doing so you are then basically stooping lower than pond scum by exploiting, There is no normal way to win Tiamant at the moment, wait for them to either fix the difficulty or something.

    No matter what these rubbish exploiters say, what ever excuses exploiting is never ever an answer.
  • quspivquspiv Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,087 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    ToS is very easy with a competent group. https://youtu.be/aZkVok9PZ6A

    Also, already done without CWs and GF instead of OP.

    Is this with DC AP bug? for ~80% of the video you have Paladin ulti which pretty much makes you invincible. Also, yes i've read the part where you done it with GF instead of OP, but once you farm some T2 gear you will obviously have it easier even with worse setup.

    I guess people could just start running with like 2 OP + DC and 2 w/e and stay with perma invincibility.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    arcanaxe wrote: »
    The only way apparently to finish Tiamant is to do what these exploiting rubbish players are doing, but by doing so you are then basically stooping lower than pond scum by exploiting, There is no normal way to win Tiamant at the moment, wait for them to either fix the difficulty or something.

    No matter what these rubbish exploiters say, what ever excuses exploiting is never ever an answer.

    As there is no way to pre form and hand pick raid groups, I will agree.
  • dodgododgo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 870 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    arcanaxe wrote: »
    The only way apparently to finish Tiamant is to do what these exploiting rubbish players are doing, but by doing so you are then basically stooping lower than pond scum by exploiting, There is no normal way to win Tiamant at the moment, wait for them to either fix the difficulty or something.

    No matter what these rubbish exploiters say, what ever excuses exploiting is never ever an answer.

    you can finish tiamat??? i dont believe it
  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 2,894 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    syrickwolf wrote: »
    thanks a ton i apreciate your honesty. i wasnt wanting proof for me. i was wanting proof for the others complaining about "oh its impossbru wit my grean gear cause i cauldnt do it on the first try "

    I'm doing ToS (legit) too and my item level is around 2500, even if as a DC it doesn't make a huge difference since most spells aren't item level based. In most cases your gear score doesn't matter, all it means is a slightly shorter or longer fight. Sure there are requirements, like the tank having at least 110k HPs and the team having 80k+ but except that, it's more about not doing too many mistakes, people doing the right thing, and not playing selfishly for the score board.

    The truth is that a huge gear score will not save you if you have a poor build or don't really have a clue about synergies and how other class work, or even worse, if you're not expert about how your class works. Many people don't even know how to read buffs, debuffs, and spells tooltips, and don't see interesting things to mix together. They rarely test stuff, never experiment, and once they find something that work, never try to get something better. The lack of curiosity is strong in these people. It is, however, one of the very first step to become a better player.
  • doompinoydoompinoy Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 8 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    when the game started you can play for free this time since they needed the money because of overhead expenses it is time to pay up the game if you really still want to stay and play you need to pay for a simple reason buy the best gear in town, open all lockboxes, it is the company's prerogative that every player need to think that this right time or it is high time to make every player pay because if they have changed the tiamat they could have done than long time ago, thats my opinion pay up and enjoy the game nothing is free.
  • lazaroth666lazaroth666 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,332 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    quspiv wrote: »
    Is this with DC AP bug? for ~80% of the video you have Paladin ulti which pretty much makes you invincible. Also, yes i've read the part where you done it with GF instead of OP, but once you farm some T2 gear you will obviously have it easier even with worse setup.

    I guess people could just start running with like 2 OP + DC and 2 w/e and stay with perma invincibility.

    I know you would love it if I say that it was done with AP bug but no, this is ToS legit. Regarding to the gear, there's no much difference in stats between each tier.

    2 OP + 1 DC? No way. I've done it 2 GWF 1 DC 1 GF and 1 TR, still easy.
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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    http://postimg.org/image/p6zu9lzc3/
    Pic of my gear, as promised. With complimentary t2 finish pic in the background.
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    http://postimg.org/image/p6zu9lzc3/
    Pic of my gear, as promised. With complimentary t2 finish pic in the background.
    nice gear. better than myne and still good. i dont have as many epic artifacts but my equipment is blue.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nice gear. better than myne and still good. i dont have as many epic artifacts but my equipment is blue.

    Enchants are all rank 7, with dragon hoards on utility. Using lesser soulforged and perfect plaguefire. The weapon+armour enchant and the artifacts are courtesy to mod 5 farming. The elol set is due to me selling my soul to elol. Had 5 horn drops.
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Enchants are all rank 7, with dragon hoards on utility. Using lesser soulforged and perfect plaguefire. The weapon+armour enchant and the artifacts are courtesy to mod 5 farming. The elol set is due to me selling my soul to elol. Had 5 horn drops.

    nice i still need the horn XD
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    nice i still need the horn XD

    Funny thing is, I don't even meet lfg's requirements for t1 without lying to them :p Fortunately, I got a long friends list + am admin on a private pve channel (nwc). This, plus legit, allows me to guarentee successful dungeons runs as I can hand pick the people I need to ensure our runs succeed.
  • mamalion1234mamalion1234 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,415 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    Enchants are all rank 7, with dragon hoards on utility. Using lesser soulforged and perfect plaguefire. The weapon+armour enchant and the artifacts are courtesy to mod 5 farming. The elol set is due to me selling my soul to elol. Had 5 horn drops.

    i have done it with old black ice set:)
  • blackxxwolf3blackxxwolf3 Member Posts: 1,539 Arc User
    edited May 2015
    you guys are so far off topic its not even funny.
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