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how can be saboteador permasteal at level 70?

platano33platano33 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
edited April 2015 in PvP Discussion
any idea how be permasteal saboteador at level 70? ty
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hello,

    Most of permastealth sabos use Twilight Adept heroic feat, Mythic DC's sigil and just spamm Lurker's Assault to permastealth.
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  • matthiasthehun76matthiasthehun76 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,184 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hey Misery don't give advise, we have enough perma trolling around!
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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    matthiasthehun76 wrote: »
    Hey Misery don't give advise, we have enough perma trolling around!
    Well, we've got some hobbing for them in return anyway.
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  • lemonchilllemonchill Member Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    platano33 wrote: »
    any idea how be permasteal saboteador at level 70? ty

    short demonstration you can still be permastealth at lvl 70 pvp:

    https://youtu.be/I_uuddZWqr0
  • onegaki101onegaki101 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    You need to used feated glooming cut to help maintain stealth and do damage. Capstone from Sabo helps as well as you saw in the video. Also as shown, it helps if you have the pvp profound set from previous mod, although you will have survivability issues like the video above if you get caught which luckily the opponents in this video were not smart enough to do.

    When a stealthed TR is affected by any CC, they will show up. That CW was dumb enough to entangle force the TR's dummy, wasting a power and giving the TR more AP.
  • mjytreszmjytresz Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    onegaki101 wrote: »
    You need to used feated glooming cut to help maintain stealth and do damage. Capstone from Sabo helps as well as you saw in the video. Also as shown, it helps if you have the pvp profound set from previous mod, although you will have survivability issues like the video above if you get caught which luckily the opponents in this video were not smart enough to do.

    When a stealthed TR is affected by any CC, they will show up. That CW was dumb enough to entangle force the TR's dummy, wasting a power and giving the TR more AP.

    Whisperknife can pull off the same thing.
    You don't need the Profound set.
    You won't have too many survivability issues in the 70 set.
    You don't even need a ton of INT for this.
    Sab capstone is the only way to pull this off unless you have 10/10 Gloaming Cut accuracy.
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  • platano33platano33 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Thanks for all your comments.
    but my tr is Whisperknife in video tr Master Infiltrator and I guess has enabled sneaky stabber.
    tr is my level 68 but I think off-hand of Level 70 has an artifact or artifact class stat that helps tr remain in stealth.
    excuse my bad English but I'm from Venezuela, i am using google translator
    thanks
  • samothrace22samothrace22 Member Posts: 359 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lemonchill wrote: »
    short demonstration you can still be permastealth at lvl 70 pvp:

    https://youtu.be/I_uuddZWqr0

    LOL @ 1:02 you have to be suicidal to use that gear in a real match @_@
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  • onegaki101onegaki101 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    platano33 wrote: »
    Thanks for all your comments.
    but my tr is Whisperknife in video tr Master Infiltrator and I guess has enabled sneaky stabber.
    tr is my level 68 but I think off-hand of Level 70 has an artifact or artifact class stat that helps tr remain in stealth.
    excuse my bad English but I'm from Venezuela, i am using google translator
    thanks

    As a WK, you cannot maintain perma stealth while dpsing because you in order to dps, you will need to use your atwill/encounter. Only atwill that does not drain stealth is Glooming cut. You can extend your stealth time, but at some points, you will run out of stealth.

    In the video you saw, you saw low level pvp where enemies do not know how to deal with TRs. At a higher level, this TR would be dead very quickly as you saw when he got caught for a couple of seconds.

    You can maintain a decent amount of stealth as WK with Bait and Switch, Shadow Strike, and Impact shot or Vengence's Pursuit as it does not break stealth when used in stealth). You will need to practice to determine the rotation you need to maximize the dps as it only takes 3~4 cloud of steel to take you out of stealth. Also as an MI, you have Invisible Infiltrator which refill stealth when using a daily which is shown on the video.

    Perma stealth is good for lowbie matches where people have low hp and knowledge. However, once you get to the higher levels, perma is not as strong as many people think. The output damage is just too low and no escape mechanism when you get caught.
  • platano33platano33 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    onegaki101 wrote: »
    As a WK, you cannot maintain perma stealth while dpsing because you in order to dps, you will need to use your atwill/encounter. Only atwill that does not drain stealth is Glooming cut. You can extend your stealth time, but at some points, you will run out of stealth.

    In the video you saw, you saw low level pvp where enemies do not know how to deal with TRs. At a higher level, this TR would be dead very quickly as you saw when he got caught for a couple of seconds.

    You can maintain a decent amount of stealth as WK with Bait and Switch, Shadow Strike, and Impact shot or Vengence's Pursuit as it does not break stealth when used in stealth). You will need to practice to determine the rotation you need to maximize the dps as it only takes 3~4 cloud of steel to take you out of stealth. Also as an MI, you have Invisible Infiltrator which refill stealth when using a daily which is shown on the video.

    Perma stealth is good for lowbie matches where people have low hp and knowledge. However, once you get to the higher levels, perma is not as strong as many people think. The output damage is just too low and no escape mechanism when you get caught.


    thanks friend.
  • onegaki101onegaki101 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 327 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Np, I'm from Venezuela too :)
  • platano33platano33 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    onegaki101 wrote: »
    Np, I'm from Venezuela too :)
    agregame como amigo mi tr se llama Oma o llamame al cantv de mi casa 0261-7865134
  • platano33platano33 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    off-hand the level 70 has a passive concealment Tenacius.
    how does it work? tr assistance to remain in stealth?
    sorry if I'm wrong translated using google translator
  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Can't decide, either Sabs, or immortal DCs frustrate me more.
  • lemonchilllemonchill Member Posts: 523 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    samothrace22 wrote: »
    LOL @ 1:02 you have to be suicidal to use that gear in a real match @_@

    i like challenges and besides i still find this build and gear still useful in pvp and pve.
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