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crystal892fcrystal892f Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 385 Arc User
edited April 2015 in The Nine Hells
Hey guys, I wanted to ask for your experiences with the two new class features:
- Dark Prayers (up to 12.5% more Def and 4% Lifesteal when under 50% HP)
- All Consuming Curse (100% chance to apply Lesser Curse on crits and +50% damage for Lesser Curse)

I read that Lesser Curse even with the 50% damage increase still hits very low. So I guess the main use for this is Curse Synergies / Consumes? But I also read that there are issues.
And what about Dark Prayers? It seems good on paper to me.

I'd be grateful for any experiences since I don't wanna respec my powers more times than necessary. :)
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  • phoenix1021phoenix1021 Member Posts: 532 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I use both and am very pleased with them. And yeah, all consuming curse is really only good for curse consuming, damage isn't worth it. However with the new feat that reduces defense from lesser curses and an AoE spell like dreadtheft (that can also consume) it is pretty useful.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    All consuming curse is bugged, works even if you don't have it slotted. As for dark prayers, it's a very good one with some certain builds and negation enchantment. I now debate on what would I want more, mobility or DR?
  • animalustanimalust Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 573 Bounty Hunter
    edited April 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »
    All consuming curse is bugged, works even if you don't have it slotted. As for dark prayers, it's a very good one with some certain builds and negation enchantment. I now debate on what would I want more, mobility or DR?

    in pvp or pve?

    I noticed i was using speed feat less and less
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    animalust wrote: »
    in pvp or pve?

    I noticed i was using speed feat less and less
    Mostly talking about PvP. In the world of wonder-oneshot PvE Dark Prayers sounds useless.

    Still, I think I like shadow walk way more than dark prayers, can't shadow slip out of smoke bomb/other melee encounters with dark prayers slotted like I do with shadow walk.
  • zeusomzeusom Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 810 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Mobility or damage resistance or balance of both - my debate too. My build hinges on this decision.
    Tried out the Trans Elven Battle versus Negation a little bit.
    Need more in-combat testing.
    Sopi (aka Haxbox) SW [Synergy]
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I also will stick more with movement, did not test dark prayer until now, since i saved my respec in case of a someone posts the ultimate PVP-Warlock-build that solves all problems and makes the class OP as hell...

    atm I can´t say where Warlock is found in PVP , from last matches I feel like beeing at the bottom: since i faced Hunter, GF, CW, TR, DC and GWF in propper builds who made me feel very weak and squishy, TR all times invisible, Hunter perma stuns, GF just kills me in seconds, not beeing able to hurt him in most cases, CW is my smallest problem, since he takes damage being controlled, Hunter ...seems like he can tank as GF, soaks up the damage like nothing perma stunning with root
    can´t decide where to go, scip PVP, do only PVE or try again, or just leave this game after 23.04. not sure....lets wait and see
  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Hey guys, I wanted to ask for your experiences with the two new class features:
    - Dark Prayers (up to 12.5% more Def and 4% Lifesteal when under 50% HP)
    - All Consuming Curse (100% chance to apply Lesser Curse on crits and +50% damage for Lesser Curse)

    I read that Lesser Curse even with the 50% damage increase still hits very low. So I guess the main use for this is Curse Synergies / Consumes? But I also read that there are issues.
    And what about Dark Prayers? It seems good on paper to me.

    I'd be grateful for any experiences since I don't wanna respec my powers more times than necessary. :)

    Prayers is good in pvp to some extent - not the BEST feat, but still good. I can't see it very useful in PvE unless you've got really nothing else to place there, but I would always bring shadow walk before this feat for pve.

    consuming curse has only one use IMO - triggering 5 stacks of dreadtheft faster/easier. Which is something that's not very hard to do without the feat so, not a very good feat IMO.
    I am the monk, martial skill transcends the battlefield
    It is my my life style, my doctrine and my state of mind,
    You fight well, but without focus and discipline, you will fall.

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    My Support Warlock/Temptation Thread
  • jobsalotofworkjobsalotofwork Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Consuming curse bug makes it decent. I'm not sure the 50% damage bonus is working even when slotted. With all the changes in the new patch not sure I'll have time to check that particular issue.....

    Seriously I'll check it tonight if someone hasn't confirmed it as broken or working here.

    I'm trying to think of a use for it but its basically 1.5k damage over a long time possibly boosted to 3k if all the feats and class abilities work and 6% weapon damage on removal costing 5 points and requiring dreadtheft to really maximize that. There maybe something there but I'm not seeing it - off hand artifact ability is 5% crit severity too no idea why as it doesn't seem to have any synergy.
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    I'm feeling like I should keep my fingers off the keyboard once it comes to bugs that benifit warlocks, we don't have much of them. I bet all-consuming curse will get fixed this patch :(
  • atriaratriar Member Posts: 59 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Nope, the all-consuming curse will only be fixed in the near future if we assume the devs do give a f**k about the SW. Since we know they dont this bug will be there for a while. ^^'
  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    atriar wrote: »
    Nope, the all-consuming curse will only be fixed in the near future if we assume the devs do give a f**k about the SW. Since we know they dont this bug will be there for a while. ^^'
    Murphy's law.
  • jobsalotofworkjobsalotofwork Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    All consuming curse only gives the 50% extra damage if you have it slotted. I'm not sure the feats are really working though I expected it to be multiplicative or at least reasonably noticeable if you had 30% extra damage from curses, but I just wasn't seeing it - granted not the most scientific method. If I can bother to figure out that ACT thing I'll test again. Didn't notice any significant difference with the lesser curse lowers DR either, but 5% would require a lot of testing so take that with a grain of salt.
  • kolatmasterkolatmaster Member Posts: 3,111 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    vasdamas wrote: »

    Still, I think I like shadow walk way more than dark prayers, can't shadow slip out of smoke bomb/other melee encounters with dark prayers slotted like I do with shadow walk.
    Shadow Walk for the win bae-bae! :cool:
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    lesser curse is exactly 1% from my damage using the extra fead, having 50% on top, would be a "big big push" for my over all damage, sure...
    hm, probably i can devellop a hole build arround lesser curse?... let me do theorycrafting, taking orbs instead of WB...ok that would deal probably about 2% instead of 1 % from lesser curse, sounds good
    5% DR --- having T Terror and T plague fire in game it sounds like ...nothing, you even can´t say if it stacks with all these debuffs since its a very small one--5% DR does not mean your damage will go up 5% nonono
    if they want to talk about the use of this feat and spend 5 point in the tree there have to be a big big buff to this curse, like -30% DR + synergism with encounter like: DT proccing CD by curse comsum, WB (no redicules tabbing like hell)
    Bova dealing extra damge on cursed targets, and some more things to implement, until then this feature is a bad joke imo

    please devs I´m in need of this class feature so much its a new brilliat implementation in mod 6 and mirrors quite good how you really think/care about Warlock :Ö)
    please devs i need to compete against these evil CW and GWF, who outdamages me so badly...
  • azli82azli82 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    i need advise from any of people already experience about this class features

    1) Warding Curse
    2) Dark One Blessing .
    HELLBOI (HELLBRINGER) LVL 70 (SW)
    THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
    THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
  • jobsalotofworkjobsalotofwork Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 189 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    azli82 wrote: »
    i need advise from any of people already experience about this class features

    1) Warding Curse
    2) Dark One Blessing .

    Blessing doesn't scale well. Warding curse is decent IMO some PVE players say its worthless do to mob density, but most of the times there's three hard hitting mobs so priorities.

    Regardless I doubt you'll slot it at end game very often.
  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    azli82 wrote: »
    i need advise from any of people already experience about this class features

    1) Warding Curse
    2) Dark One Blessing .

    Warding curse is sub optimal but potentially situationally-useful...
    Dark one Blessing is terrible, don't put points in this

    They should not be your priority feats.

    No pity no mercy for Hellbringers
    Borrowed Time for Soulbinders

    Shadow walk is a good second, or empowered flames if you're hellbringer
    I am the monk, martial skill transcends the battlefield
    It is my my life style, my doctrine and my state of mind,
    You fight well, but without focus and discipline, you will fall.

    More threads by me / Click on it B)
    My Support Warlock/Temptation Thread
  • znnflameboundznnflamebound Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Did someone test Deadly Curse+ACC? Does DC procc from ACC or not?
  • azli82azli82 Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    Need advise :

    Warding curse is effect 10% less damage from opponent . must curse the target rite .

    Curse target will give 30% bonus damage , will stack with 10 % less damage with opponent ?
    and offhand bonus will give debuff for movement like -(negative)25% .

    so the question is about "Curse" . 1 tab skill . i can get 30% bonus damage + 10% less damage impack and debuff opponent -25% movement ? izzit stack 3 benefit in 1 curse(tab) ?
    HELLBOI (HELLBRINGER) LVL 70 (SW)
    THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
    THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited April 2015
    so the question is about "Curse" . 1 tab skill . i can get 30% bonus damage + 10% less damage impack and debuff opponent -25% movement ? izzit stack 3 benefit in 1 curse(tab) ?
    seems so tab 20%+ 10% from fury tree + warding curse + offhand bonus
    but....you will sacrifice a lot, offhandbonus can give you 15% deflect with 30 sparks up, thats far better, warding curse is 10% less damage you get , but i prefer by far dark prayer its 12,5% DR+4% LS under 50% HP combined with Desperate Restoration below 30% HP you have 15% more incoming heal, on top 4% LS from vampire sparks (not 1,5%...it gives you 4%) + selfheal from borrowed time
    I can´t say how often it saved me the last fights

    btw did anybody experiece that Burning Soul is nearly always active, even no sparks up, or at least the icon doesn´t disappear ...
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