So with new module some of us say SW dead,but some of us say vise versa its still powerfull.Everything aside they want to make pvp much more longer and pleasant.More HP,more defance,more ignore etc. and i think its worked.In this respect LS changes maybe a bit meanless but in any case Soulblinder better for PvP.Hellbringer good also but opposite to new meta.We are talking about theories always.I think time to make a build but its not my job because i am so low about guide creating.Players who playing to leadership dont want to share their builds.Is it selfish?Of course but there is nothing to do.I am sure pro warlocks here and i hope one of them going to prepare a guide for new meta-pvp.After that we can talk about a build not only theories.
So with new module some of us say SW dead,but some of us say vise versa its still powerfull.Everything aside they want to make pvp much more longer and pleasant.More HP,more defance,more ignore etc. and i think its worked.In this respect LS changes maybe a bit meanless but in any case Soulblinder better for PvP.Hellbringer good also but opposite to new meta.We are talking about theories always.I think time to make a build but its not my job because i am so low about guide creating.Players who playing to leadership dont want to share their builds.Is it selfish?Of course but there is nothing to do.I am sure pro warlocks here and i hope one of them going to prepare a guide for new meta-pvp.After that we can talk about a build not only theories.
So selfish of them to not give you the fruit of their hours of testing and ad/zen respecs. Who do those pro's that take the time to learn their class think they are?!?! I mean seriously, everyone should be able to skip learning to play and just copy someone else right? Makes the game super fun to have tons of cookie cutter tools running around. Just like it was fun doing 6/10 or 13/20 mod5-pvp with majority TR using bugs, that was such a good time.
I am not blaming them its really difficult.But think like that a recuit player or a new player cant afford that especially novadays.I could do that if i was a experienced SB.With new patch try different types of SB and if its not effective easy to say SB not effective in meta becasue of this situations ..... or HB is suck because blablabla.If all of us will find our build ourselves why there is a topic named warlock community am i right?
I feel like it does not worth the time to post a PvP guide for this class, there are so many broken feats/boons in PvP right now. I wouldn't want to delude anyone.
I feel like it does not worth the time to post a PvP guide for this class, there are so many broken feats/boons in PvP right now. I wouldn't want to delude anyone.
It's right and pvp really annoying atm.Maybe i am too unskilled but SW like a piece of cake i think.Most of time i loose my half hp just with my skills,they dont need to do anything.I hope with next patch everything will be OK.
I feel like it does not worth the time to post a PvP guide for this class, there are so many broken feats/boons in PvP right now. I wouldn't want to delude anyone.
i have not even been playing my SW -.-
old friend gifted me GW2 so ive been checkign that out as an elementalist :cool:
It's right and pvp really annoying atm.Maybe i am too unskilled but SW like a piece of cake i think.Most of time i loose my half hp just with my skills,they dont need to do anything.I hope with next patch everything will be OK.
It's just you use WB and then they reflect a ton of damage back at you. Feythistle + Augmented bastion, way to make me mad when I play PvP on my SW.
Maybe I'll rework my old guide to fit this module PvP but atm the stat curves is similar to a deep unknown forest for me. Besides I am conservative Fury warlock, even though many say damnation is way better now
So with new module some of us say SW dead,but some of us say vise versa its still powerfull.Everything aside they want to make pvp much more longer and pleasant.More HP,more defance,more ignore etc. and i think its worked.In this respect LS changes maybe a bit meanless but in any case Soulblinder better for PvP.Hellbringer good also but opposite to new meta.We are talking about theories always.I think time to make a build but its not my job because i am so low about guide creating.Players who playing to leadership dont want to share their builds.Is it selfish?Of course but there is nothing to do.I am sure pro warlocks here and i hope one of them going to prepare a guide for new meta-pvp.After that we can talk about a build not only theories.
hi bro ,
If u like involving in PVP mode , please do more communication in TEAM . no class is KING actually , and SW is always best class in PVP .
If u que alone in PVP , then u should accept who will be your team mate . Some u can win and some u will loose .
U can learn alot of people share their power build in PVP . But this is just a note for u , if u wan more , u can find from your experience in game .
HELLBOI (HELLBRINGER) LVL 70 (SW)
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
actually i play SB fury in PVP, with offhand i use 0,5% deflect extra, so having 15% deflect if sparks up, thats quite good,
encounter i use: Curse-hadar gasp- Harrow-storm- Killing flame
at will essence+ spiral
daily sure hadars brood
Borrowed time is obligatory
works quite ok, but I am far from "always best class" in PVP, lol
GF is hard to fight, only having a chance casting in his back, since i can not one-rotate him, after my encounter i have tor "run" and he really beats hard !
have to do more fights to say how SW performs
actually i play SB fury in PVP, with offhand i use 0,5% deflect extra, so having 15% deflect if sparks up, thats quite good,
encounter i use: Curse-hadar gasp- Harrow-storm- Killing flame
at will essence+ spiral
daily sure hadars brood
Borrowed time is obligatory
works quite ok, but I am far from "always best class" in PVP, lol
GF is hard to fight, only having a chance casting in his back, since i can not one-rotate him, after my encounter i have tor "run" and he really beats hard !
have to do more fights to say how SW performs
hi bro ,
yes i am SW class . And i feel SW is BEST ever class in Combination of double effect SW .
Of course if u talking about PVP , u always drag into 1 vs 1 , PVP is about TEAM , not 1 vs 1 . change your mind .
HELLBOI (HELLBRINGER) LVL 70 (SW)
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
hi bro ,
yes i am SW class . And i feel SW is BEST ever class in Combination of double effect SW .
Of course if u talking about PVP , u always drag into 1 vs 1 , PVP is about TEAM , not 1 vs 1 . change your mind
hi bro back,
imo PVP is teamplay+ the gift in "holding a node as long as possible" even against two enemys
so please tell me how long you are able to hold a node playing HB fury?
i don´t talk about premades groups or pro gamer, i talk about pugs-teams, and in case of not having a strong DC or GF or CW by my side (who does the work and let me spam my encounter) i get stomped very fast
so warlock is near bottom in case of no dodge ablility and very poor defence mechanics, like mod 5, and it is your personal way or build to be competeable
if i knew any build that "rocks the house" i would tell this immidiatly, in case of not being a selfish ***...le, posting in this thread about spending time and money, and not willing to share my results
my personal impression is PVP = SB-fury is the only path to chose
since tenacity reduces damage/crit/control and arp (2x) i think I will try to push deflect and lifesteal and crit
deflect is very helpfull in case of having sparks up i have 23% deflect atm 7,8% + 15% from offhand coming near 30% would be good, or even more
lifesteal sure keeps u alive, crit generates sparks so no crit no spark no damage no defence
these are my thougts until now
i will not invest in DR, and i can´t say if its worth investing into arp, since arp gets really toothless by these high ammounts of tenacity?
regen i won´t invest cause i need all other points
hi bro back,
imo PVP is teamplay+ the gift in "holding a node as long as possible" even against two enemys
so please tell me how long you are able to hold a node playing HB fury?
i don´t talk about premades groups or pro gamer, i talk about pugs-teams, and in case of not having a strong DC or GF or CW by my side (who does the work and let me spam my encounter) i get stomped very fast
so warlock is near bottom in case of no dodge ablility and very poor defence mechanics, like mod 5, and it is your personal way or build to be competeable
if i knew any build that "rocks the house" i would tell this immidiatly, in case of not being a selfish ***...le, posting in this thread about spending time and money, and not willing to share my results
my personal impression is PVP = SB-fury is the only path to chose
since tenacity reduces damage/crit/control and arp (2x) i think I will try to push deflect and lifesteal and crit
deflect is very helpfull in case of having sparks up i have 23% deflect atm 7,8% + 15% from offhand coming near 30% would be good, or even more
lifesteal sure keeps u alive, crit generates sparks so no crit no spark no damage no defence
these are my thougts until now
i will not invest in DR, and i can´t say if its worth investing into arp, since arp gets really toothless by these high ammounts of tenacity?
regen i won´t invest cause i need all other points
hi bro schietindebux ,
u have good point with SB build in FURY . Try find out 1 more SW character , be your side . 2 SW character together can give nice combo and best result .
HELLBOI (HELLBRINGER) LVL 70 (SW)
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
So selfish of them to not give you the fruit of their hours of testing and ad/zen respecs. Who do those pro's that take the time to learn their class think they are?!?! I mean seriously, everyone should be able to skip learning to play and just copy someone else right? Makes the game super fun to have tons of cookie cutter tools running around. Just like it was fun doing 6/10 or 13/20 mod5-pvp with majority TR using bugs, that was such a good time.
Pro tip, you don't need to spend AD in order to check out builds, just use free respect and copy over to PTR.
I'm going back to my SW, I find the Cleric, I'm leveling boring as hell to level.
I may not be considered by most the BEST PVP Warlock on the server but, I am the most HATED amongst them.
Builds will start showing up soon, some things need to happen first:
1. Get the gear + enchants + artifacts to max level (some builds become viable only with MAX items).
2. Have alot of PVP matches with PROOF that the build works.
I rather keep this forum free of useless builds for now.
Im posting because i have SW character in HB fury build . But my build is not standalone build .
Oh yes, "I like being carried" kind of kill-snipe warlock. I say, any PvE underdog can hide behind DC astral shield or GF's KV, so much of PvP awareness that is...standing spamming skills on two.
But sure, go ahead and play whatever you like, I don't mind if you prefer to grovel before somebody to win a game.
actually i tested nothing else than controll feats, 1. Hadar gasp 2. wraith shadow 3. harrow storm, you could put KF/WB instead of wraith shadow
so first "entangle" then WS-curse - WS then HS-prone, the really good thing is WS has a very short CD nearly half of other encounters, if you push recovery a bit you can play a very nice Control-Lock imo
sure works not agaisnt all classes but lots of them TR, Hunter, CW, DC even against GF/GWF WS seems to be a good thing
Hunter is in some case broken as **** since this root-thing nearly permastuns or holds you)--> elfen battle enchant is best way to go against this imo
i could controll DC really good by doing this
all in all since i can´t get a look at the gear of players its too early to give a feedback since some will gear up in the next weeks, but i feel a bit better in mod 6 than in mod 5 until now
try yourself and tell me your impressions please, thx
actually i tested nothing else than controll feats, 1. Hadar gasp 2. wraith shadow 3. harrow storm, you could put KF/WB instead of wraith shadow
so first "entangle" then WS-curse - WS then HS-prone, the really good thing is WS has a very short CD nearly half of other encounters, if you push recovery a bit you can play a very nice Control-Lock imo
sure works not agaisnt all classes but lots of them TR, Hunter, CW, DC even against GF/GWF WS seems to be a good thing
Hunter is in some case broken as **** since this root-thing nearly permastuns or holds you)--> elfen battle enchant is best way to go against this imo
i could controll DC really good by doing this
all in all since i can´t get a look at the gear of players its too early to give a feedback since some will gear up in the next weeks, but i feel a bit better in mod 6 than in mod 5 until now
try yourself and tell me your impressions please, thx
WS isn't terrible. I prefer it over HS any day simple because of cast time. You'r idea of control lock kind of goes over my head a little. If we were meant to be control class the devs would've named us "Control Warlock" I'd imagine. Look up scourge in any dictionary:
Scourge:
N.
a cause of affliction or calamity
Sounds like pure damage and mayhem to me. My opinion
WS isn't terrible. I prefer it over HS any day simple because of cast time. You'r idea of control lock kind of goes over my head a little. If we were meant to be control class the devs would've named us "Control Warlock" I'd imagine. Look up scourge in any dictionary:
Scourge:N.
a cause of affliction or calamity Sounds like pure damage and mayhem to me. My opinion
hm to me PVP is nothing else than CC, when i go into PVP Hunter class nearly permastuns me, TR same, GWF -lots of cc if IV-FLS, roar, Knock down, nearly all dailys are about interrupt and stun
sure i would like to play same s.h.i.t. CW can, cc and mega burst together
take HG+HS or WS and a finisher killing flame, works ok
only wanted to post that testing this combination is quite good since HG and WS have nice short casting time
WS isn't terrible. I prefer it over HS any day simple because of cast time. You'r idea of control lock kind of goes over my head a little. If we were meant to be control class the devs would've named us "Control Warlock" I'd imagine. Look up scourge in any dictionary:
Scourge:
N.
a cause of affliction or calamity
Sounds like pure damage and mayhem to me. My opinion
We are basing our builds on prefix of the classes? since when?
Hadar's Grasp with curse consume is enough, that thing hits harder than WB and gives us a time enough to build some sparks. HG > defiler > HS > KF > Brood of Hadar > some sparks again. Just watch they don't deflect your CC. I don't use HS though, got some more useful stuff for 3rd slot.
actually i play SB fury in PVP, with offhand i use 0,5% deflect extra, so having 15% deflect if sparks up, thats quite good,
encounter i use: Curse-hadar gasp- Harrow-storm- Killing flame
at will essence+ spiral
daily sure hadars brood
Borrowed time is obligatory
works quite ok, but I am far from "always best class" in PVP, lol
GF is hard to fight, only having a chance casting in his back, since i can not one-rotate him, after my encounter i have tor "run" and he really beats hard !
have to do more fights to say how SW performs
I dont have the same item build for offhand, but like this guy says... Added note most none meat sticks i can 3 shot.
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So selfish of them to not give you the fruit of their hours of testing and ad/zen respecs. Who do those pro's that take the time to learn their class think they are?!?! I mean seriously, everyone should be able to skip learning to play and just copy someone else right? Makes the game super fun to have tons of cookie cutter tools running around. Just like it was fun doing 6/10 or 13/20 mod5-pvp with majority TR using bugs, that was such a good time.
WTB Class Reroll please
It's right and pvp really annoying atm.Maybe i am too unskilled but SW like a piece of cake i think.Most of time i loose my half hp just with my skills,they dont need to do anything.I hope with next patch everything will be OK.
i have not even been playing my SW -.-
old friend gifted me GW2 so ive been checkign that out as an elementalist :cool:
Maybe I'll rework my old guide to fit this module PvP but atm the stat curves is similar to a deep unknown forest for me. Besides I am conservative Fury warlock, even though many say damnation is way better now
WTB Class Reroll please
hi bro ,
If u like involving in PVP mode , please do more communication in TEAM . no class is KING actually , and SW is always best class in PVP .
If u que alone in PVP , then u should accept who will be your team mate . Some u can win and some u will loose .
U can learn alot of people share their power build in PVP . But this is just a note for u , if u wan more , u can find from your experience in game .
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
... are you sure you play neverwinter?
actually i play SB fury in PVP, with offhand i use 0,5% deflect extra, so having 15% deflect if sparks up, thats quite good,
encounter i use: Curse-hadar gasp- Harrow-storm- Killing flame
at will essence+ spiral
daily sure hadars brood
Borrowed time is obligatory
works quite ok, but I am far from "always best class" in PVP, lol
GF is hard to fight, only having a chance casting in his back, since i can not one-rotate him, after my encounter i have tor "run" and he really beats hard !
have to do more fights to say how SW performs
WTB Class Reroll please
hi bro ,
yes i am SW class . And i feel SW is BEST ever class in Combination of double effect SW .
Of course if u talking about PVP , u always drag into 1 vs 1 , PVP is about TEAM , not 1 vs 1 . change your mind .
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
hi bro ,
Im posting because i have SW character in HB fury build . But my build is not standalone build .
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
hi bro back,
imo PVP is teamplay+ the gift in "holding a node as long as possible" even against two enemys
so please tell me how long you are able to hold a node playing HB fury?
i don´t talk about premades groups or pro gamer, i talk about pugs-teams, and in case of not having a strong DC or GF or CW by my side (who does the work and let me spam my encounter) i get stomped very fast
so warlock is near bottom in case of no dodge ablility and very poor defence mechanics, like mod 5, and it is your personal way or build to be competeable
if i knew any build that "rocks the house" i would tell this immidiatly, in case of not being a selfish ***...le, posting in this thread about spending time and money, and not willing to share my results
my personal impression is PVP = SB-fury is the only path to chose
since tenacity reduces damage/crit/control and arp (2x) i think I will try to push deflect and lifesteal and crit
deflect is very helpfull in case of having sparks up i have 23% deflect atm 7,8% + 15% from offhand coming near 30% would be good, or even more
lifesteal sure keeps u alive, crit generates sparks so no crit no spark no damage no defence
these are my thougts until now
i will not invest in DR, and i can´t say if its worth investing into arp, since arp gets really toothless by these high ammounts of tenacity?
regen i won´t invest cause i need all other points
hi bro schietindebux ,
u have good point with SB build in FURY . Try find out 1 more SW character , be your side . 2 SW character together can give nice combo and best result .
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
Pro tip, you don't need to spend AD in order to check out builds, just use free respect and copy over to PTR.
I'm going back to my SW, I find the Cleric, I'm leveling boring as hell to level.
-Kymos
1. Get the gear + enchants + artifacts to max level (some builds become viable only with MAX items).
2. Have alot of PVP matches with PROOF that the build works.
I rather keep this forum free of useless builds for now.
But sure, go ahead and play whatever you like, I don't mind if you prefer to grovel before somebody to win a game.
WTB Class Reroll please
so first "entangle" then WS-curse - WS then HS-prone, the really good thing is WS has a very short CD nearly half of other encounters, if you push recovery a bit you can play a very nice Control-Lock imo
sure works not agaisnt all classes but lots of them TR, Hunter, CW, DC even against GF/GWF WS seems to be a good thing
Hunter is in some case broken as **** since this root-thing nearly permastuns or holds you)--> elfen battle enchant is best way to go against this imo
i could controll DC really good by doing this
all in all since i can´t get a look at the gear of players its too early to give a feedback since some will gear up in the next weeks, but i feel a bit better in mod 6 than in mod 5 until now
try yourself and tell me your impressions please, thx
WS isn't terrible. I prefer it over HS any day simple because of cast time. You'r idea of control lock kind of goes over my head a little. If we were meant to be control class the devs would've named us "Control Warlock" I'd imagine. Look up scourge in any dictionary:
Scourge:
N.
a cause of affliction or calamity
Sounds like pure damage and mayhem to me. My opinion
hm to me PVP is nothing else than CC, when i go into PVP Hunter class nearly permastuns me, TR same, GWF -lots of cc if IV-FLS, roar, Knock down, nearly all dailys are about interrupt and stun
sure i would like to play same s.h.i.t. CW can, cc and mega burst together
take HG+HS or WS and a finisher killing flame, works ok
only wanted to post that testing this combination is quite good since HG and WS have nice short casting time
We are basing our builds on prefix of the classes? since when?
WTB Class Reroll please
My opinion
Did you miss this?
I dont have the same item build for offhand, but like this guy says... Added note most none meat sticks i can 3 shot.