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maegmaag
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Simply because the "kicking" from domination is not fixed even after year/s of complains and the matchmaking sux anyway. Thanks.
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lol
Also, I think they are fixing that in mod6. We can only hope.
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It happens very often, that simply insanely low level players join both of them and it's only a pain to spend 20 mins in a match, watching it fail, cause you know it will, either cause of low GS or bad strategy or simply non carrying people.
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- I would say they should make it more painful, a full day penalty.
I remember it used to be impossible to play a match before the leaver penalty. As soon as someone felt it wouldn't be an easy win, he would quit and everyone had to leave. It's simply not fun when you're these guy's red team. It's also about time the devs simply turn off the GM exit option. It's almost only used for exploits.
* If the match is painful enough for any reason, aforementioned included, the penalty wont stop me from leaving, especialy when i can play another char or do dailies in the meantime.
* Being penalized for something i cant affect is just wrong.
* Its 30 min + how long the match took so far of lost time.
Thus it punishes fair players.
Its not about "how it should or could be", its about removing it till the mentioned issue(s) is not fixed. Under ideal circumstances, the penalty could be half a year for what i care, for both "afk-ers" and quitters, but as long as it brings such issues, it has to go (and exploiters too, permanently).
PS: as for pve content, when i tried STO some pve group content had a leaver penalty, so we will probably c that and maybe some "anti afk-ing" in the future, but it requires work and since cryptics "schedule is up to 2 mods ahead", i prefer removing/disabling it than keeping/implementing it broken;
But this leaver penalty thing should be given a bit more deeper insight!
I personally see other problems combined with leaving.
For instance, many PVPers use the traitor trick, won't write details here, there are more options, this way they can polish their leader board ranking or decide the outcoming of a match.
There is the 2,3k(!)-8k people or the many bot players issue. Now if you got such a team mate(s) on your team, is there any use to wait the 20 min or so to get a loss? We all know from beginning, it will be a disaster, still we either have to slaughter ourselves or wait at campfire or jump out aka leave. And this happens very very often.
Another thing, many only come for the AD or for the glory, be it a human player or a bot, now if you see, that they really don't give a dime about the team, should I stay there and get depressed, angry or bored?! I did for long, cause i felt the same way as many about leavers and still wait, if i don't wanna get that 30 min and i never exploit, never use methods to avoid leavers penalty. I will stay and do something in those long and boring minutes or i jump out and acknowledge, that i get the 30 mins.
Or there is the case with half premades, i got several times kicked by them, either cause i was so good or even better as them or they were angry for me not being a 25k. Now i was kicked, got the 30 mins, according to the system, i was the leaver. Now should i get the penalty for being a leaver? NO.
Coming to PVE, kinda same as PVP. For example did Valindra's Tower yesterday 3 times, now on one run there was a team mate with a little bit over 10k. Now according to the queue she can enter, but we all knew we won't make it with her. Now she was stubborn and some wanted to kick her, some don't, so somehow it didn't come to a conclusion. After about 5 tries she left and we could do it on our own. Normally if it wasn't for a guildie, i would have left after the second loss. Now should a leaver from such a useless situation be banned? NO.
Tiamat is even worse, we got a 25 man team, where we have to join all kinds of folks, from 10k-25K or even more. Now if you don't get a nice team, and you see, that not only 1 head is down by time or as many times witnessed, there is a bug with the Black head, which means no head at all, shall we stay and bore ourselves again?
If it was for me, i would either make a forfeit option in PVP or demolish, that over exploited leader board, that way all these problems would be solved and even more. In PVE only the GM help should be reworked.
Robert E. Lee
I only believe in statistics that I doctored myself.
Winston Churchill
The human race is a herd. Here we are, unique, eternal aspects of consciousness with an infinity of potential, and we have allowed ourselves to become an unthinking, unquestioning blob of conformity and uniformity. A herd. Once we concede to the herd mentality, we can be controlled and directed by a tiny few. And we are.
David Icke
these ppl, as i wrote in several threads, have to leave PVP or at least buy blue stuff with tenecity to be allowed to queue
its cheap to buy, i did with my GWF lately, so have about 12k GS, but can play the game and don´t destroy everything to other player,
too many clueless nubbies want to get daily done imo
that was something i proposed.
for example you cant Q for kessell without % black ice resistance.
do the same for pvp
you got brackets for lots of things, kessel, icewinddale, can´t go valindra or malaborg castle without boons etc
in mod 5 they made the "end content" open for every player.... so you say its all fine? Then run thaiamat at 3min to support those 10k GS player who don´t even now where to run, have fun and enjoy the game
same is PVP and in this case its real "end content" not a crappy encounter that is bugged like hell, PVP is 10 times more challenging than any other dungeon, so you enjoy these lost fightsfrom the beginnig? OK , but do not expect i can share this thinking
brackets as i wrote are needed in PVP and these brackets has to include teneacity imo, cause a 22k char, who is onehittet is nothing else than a spoiler for all players, thats no elitism thinking, thats rational thinking, rethink your writings again please
and the bug abusing player are nothing more than sociopathic player, they can leave and take penalty themself, instead of kicking others
hm... lets see, it´s not the players fault going tiamat half naked, beeing onehittet all time and hoping for the easy win given by a 24k dude....indeed it is !
it is not the players fault going PVP in PVE gear 25k HP contesting against a 45k CW with same Gearscore...hmmm sure it is his fault, he could walk to the AH, buy blue or purple stuff with teneacity, drop some rank 5 or 6 stones in and play PVP much easier and better in most cases
so when i go every day PVP for daily ruining every day the game for all other players, who else should be responsible for that?
can´t even understand why you pretend to be an advocat for these "I don´t care about anything" mentality, because it is stupid and ignorant and makes things much worse than they are
or one of the leaderboard muchkins judging the risk of losing is too great and disconnecting