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mrcharlytoomrcharlytoo Member Posts: 298 Arc User
edited March 2015 in The Militia Barracks
I've not played in ages, have a GWF lvl42.
Went in a dungeon, Wolf Den, I seemed to get outdamaged by every other player in the squad. Solo I do just fine, takes a while to kill stuff, but I manage. Is GWF a weakling now?
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  • ghoulz66ghoulz66 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,748 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    GWF was always weak till they got into their paragon feats. Also, a lot of players have dragon bone rares on them.
  • rversantrversant Member Posts: 896 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    short answer : Yes.
    Long answer : No, We aren't completely useless, At high gearscores we can rip up mod 5 PvE and handle MOST non heoric PvE, But we are effectively the lowest DPS class of actual DPS classes (we are higher than Paladin though, but they arent a DPS class) , and Dont have many benefits to offset this. if our At wills were much higher, we'd be able to slot defensive encounters like other DpS classes can, but even with 3 damage encounters we fall short of lesser geared TR/CW/HR and depending on skill can be above or below SW (however SW is much stronger leveling)

    Coming from a 22k GWF, 15k TR, 15k DC, 13k and 17k HR's and 12k CW.
    People are way too negative, Why cant we just all get along.


    Drunken Goose of MidNight Express. - 3.3k Paladin , 3.6k GWF , 3.1k GF,
  • mrcharlytoomrcharlytoo Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Thanks for the answer.

    Did something change? I seem to recall being able to remain in Hulk Mode more often, therefore not getting knocked down so much or taking so many debuffs.
  • lucifron44lucifron44 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I've not played in ages, have a GWF lvl42.
    Went in a dungeon, Wolf Den, I seemed to get outdamaged by every other player in the squad. Solo I do just fine, takes a while to kill stuff, but I manage. Is GWF a weakling now?

    Yes, it is a weakling.
    GWF has a lower DPS than the other classes. All the other classes, not only the DPS classes.
    But your current GWF is still much better than what it will be with Mod6, where all the classes are affected but the GWF much much more so.
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  • lucifron44lucifron44 Member Posts: 417 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Thanks for the answer.

    Did something change? I seem to recall being able to remain in Hulk Mode more often, therefore not getting knocked down so much or taking so many debuffs.

    Yes the frequency of hulking has been nerfed. The bright side is, as the efficiency of the Unstoppable has also been nerfed (it's basically only an optical effect now), being unstoppable less often is not an issue really.
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  • mrcharlytoomrcharlytoo Member Posts: 298 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Ah, that's great. So I don't need to worry about not being able to use the class's main strength <facepalm>
  • greatweaponarmygreatweaponarmy Member Posts: 352 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    The class doesn't have its former dominance and presence, GWF's don't really strike fear into their opponents anymore (in PVP) and it's lacking in damage (in PVE) compared to other classes.

    Other than that, it's still fun to play in my opinion, Destroyer is solid.
  • kabinoleskabinoles Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    yep dps class with no dps,and out dps by non dps classes.fun
    In PVE my destroyer have no problem,but we still get out damage by other classes
    ppl dont fear us anymore,our big knife is good for only cutting bread
    this the only game that I have play that the guy with the big weapon is out damage by the guy with the lil weapon (sign)
    its like I am a bulldozer and this prius come and kill me
  • nezraalnezraal Member, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You only need 1 class in this game and it's CW.
    All you GWF need to quit and become CW for more tank. :p true story
  • methecsgodmethecsgod Member Posts: 163 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    GWF has been nerfed into the ground and currently needs a very high gear score to be competitive. I have a 17k with epic artifact gear and rank 7 enchants, and I cannot simply waltz around Tiamat or eLOL. And it will supposedly only get harder in mod 6.
  • rinat114rinat114 Member Posts: 913 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    If you have no plans in uber gear investiment for your GWF, pick another class. We're stupidly gear dependant to even DO anything it's hilarious. Weaklings? yes.
  • xginocidexxginocidex Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 66 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    kabinoles wrote: »
    yep dps class with no dps,and out dps by non dps classes.fun
    In PVE my destroyer have no problem,but we still get out damage by other classes
    ppl dont fear us anymore,our big knife is good for only cutting bread
    this the only game that I have play that the guy with the big weapon is out damage by the guy with the lil weapon (sign)
    its like I am a bulldozer and this prius come and kill me

    It really bugs me that my CW at 16k GS completely owned my 23k GWF on the damage chart. After finally excepting the fact that Cryptic completely destroyed my GWF I have been working on my CW and got it to 18.5k it does 2 to 3 times the damage with no effort at all.

    I have been here for over a year now and after all the mods and nerfs cryptic made its point clear that if your not a CW then your nothing basically.
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    does anyone know wich path to chose for PVP in mod 6?
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