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Wheel of Elements artifact OP compared to other artifacts?

tonyvincenttonyvincent Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 123 Arc User
Hi, I just want to make the devs aware of the possible over-powered artifact 'Wheel of Elements'.


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Recharge Time: 60s

Use: Summons forth four symbols of elemental power, when an ally passes through a symbol it is consumed and its power is granted to the ally.

Fire — Deal 30% bonus Damage as fire for 28 seconds.

Wind — Grants control immunity and increased Run Speed for 6 seconds.

Earth — Grant 200% of Maximum Hit Points as Temporary Hit Points.

Water — Heal for 100% of Maximum Hit Points over time.
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I don't know how the artifact works, whether the 'symbols' vanish if one orb is absorbed or if the 'symbols' vanish after a short period of time or if the 'symbols' have a big distance from each other.

Either way, if one is able to consume all the 'symbols', then I am afraid it will be an artifact viable in almost every situation, especially in PvP. And I am afraid that the few people who get hold of this artifact will outpower the more common artifacts by a long-shot. Here are the reasons:

- This artifact gives 30% bonus damage with almost 50% uptime. What is Lantern compared to this? And the fire bonus is only from 1 out of 4 symbols.

- This artifact grants CC immunity AND increased run speed for an entire 6 seconds. What is Oghma's compared to this? Sure, Oghma's can be activated while being CCd by some of the powers out there.

- This artifact grants 200% of Max HP as Temporary HP. What is Bloodcrystal compared to this? Sure, we don't know how long the Temp. HP lasts.

- This artifact heals for 100% of Max HP over time. What is Waters compared to this?


Assuming one may absorb all symbols fairly easily, this artifact would give huge Dps boost for a long time, give CC immunity, give huge Temp HP for tankiness, and Heal to Full HP. You get everything except for CCing the enemies. This artifact does look good, but if this artifact is very rare, require lockbox, or crazy RNG from boss drop, then I would guess it would help to further make inbalance/unbalance to i.e. PvP.

Thank you for listening!

I thought I would put this out there.
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  • godlysoul2godlysoul2 Member Posts: 661 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2015
    Yeah, looks stupid OP
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    O_o wow they made it even stronger? I posted a picture of it at mythic last week and it only gave 10% bonus damage and heals 40% of max hp over time , the other two effects were the same , if those are new effects for it then yes it seems slightly ott .


    http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?857651-lvl-70-artifact-belts&p=10242641&viewfull=1#post10242641
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  • benistvanbenistvan Member Posts: 159 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Is hits on preview? I can find it.
    Or where did you see it?
  • iambecks1iambecks1 Member Posts: 4,044 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    benistvan wrote: »
    Is hits on preview? I can find it.
    Or where did you see it?

    It's in collections on preview but no idea where it comes from or what drops it yet.
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  • szejhuludpuchaczszejhuludpuchacz Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Is this from lockboxes?

    edit:ok, i see, no info.
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  • ichimaruginxichimaruginx Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited March 2015
  • tonyvincenttonyvincent Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I am just afraid that this one artifact can make a big difference in PvP (and PvE).

    EDIT: An no, I don't know where it drops from. I know the symbol of earth drops from lockbox
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  • nekromaniak666nekromaniak666 Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 94
    edited March 2015
    This artifact is from upcoming Lockbox - Black Earth Lockbox.
    To be more specific, you need to get Trove of Elemental Evil from Lockbox (first RNG to get this item) then you can get Wheel of Elements artifact (second RNG to get this item).
    So i believe this artifact will be pretty OP because you must get through double RNG.
    OP item - you want it - double RNG - more gamble - more enchanted keys - more money for Cryptic.
    Simple as that.
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  • ofnieslafofnieslaf Member Posts: 381 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    ppl will still use sigil of the devoted, well most.

    only class i see using this are HR (trapper) and GF, with the possiblity of gwf/dc.
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  • overdriver13overdriver13 Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Wow, some pretty shameless, gamebreaking greed there. More than anything I've so far seen this looks like a buyable "win button".
  • suicidalgodotsuicidalgodot Member Posts: 2,465 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Wow, some pretty shameless, gamebreaking greed there. More than anything I've so far seen this looks like a buyable "win button".

    ...that's been thought, too, about the BI Beholder. And then Tia's Orb.

    Here, when you _assume_ that, like it's the case with many other things like buff potions, only one of the symbols can be activa at a time on a single char, it'd be a party buffer. High Power, yay. Bossfight-buffer, yay. PvP? Might be sweet if they'd like halve the effects (' durations).

    I find it somewhat in line with the Class artifacts' effects when used in different classes: TR one gives you Deft Strike, HR one roots,...

    Sure, the damage is high, but that's the benefit for having spent hundreds of keys to get it, to some extent.
  • animalustanimalust Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 573 Bounty Hunter
    edited March 2015
    etelgrin wrote: »
    No problem you have second active artifact slot, people can use both.

    ummm.. I dont recall you being able to proc 2 abilities from 2 artifacts at once lol
  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    - This artifact gives 30% bonus damage with almost 50% uptime. What is Lantern compared to this? And the fire bonus is only from 1 out of 4 symbols
    -->so in case of not beeing able to decide who is going to get the buff it will mostly do nothing , even in PVP, Warlock uses necrotic most of the time f.e.

    - This artifact grants CC immunity AND increased run speed for an entire 6 seconds. What is Oghma's compared to this? Sure, Oghma's can be activated while being CCd by some of the powers out there.
    -->TR´s have this implemented all time, 6 seconds is, hmmm ok but will never be gamebreaking

    - This artifact grants 200% of Max HP as Temporary HP. What is Bloodcrystal compared to this? Sure, we don't know how long the Temp. HP lasts.
    --> 200% ? so having 130k HP you get on top 260Hp temporary? lol having 390k HP, how long does it last? but this could be really annoying

    - This artifact heals for 100% of Max HP over time. What is Waters compared to this?
    -->overpowered imo 100% upheal when you get the lucky proc, but its a lottery right?

    so in two cases out of four you will get every 60 seconds 100% health or 200% temp HP, not too bad
    but tbh, too expansive and i would prefer DC sigil in PVE and PVP, for having my daily up all 30 sec in case of maxed artifact
    DC having best daily buff for the hole party all 30 sec for ..15sec i guess --> hollowed ground, so it would be more a gimmick than a gamebreaker in PVE
    in PVP it could be a bit gamebreaking if you stick together all time, and all off the party can benefit from the buffs

    but only if "when an ally passes through a symbol it is consumed and its power is granted to the ally"
    so in most cases it gives you nothing, so wasted money pvp and PVE wise
  • tonyvincenttonyvincent Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 123 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    I am most afraid of the 30% bonus damage. I will probably get used to the heal symbol, CC symbol, and temp. hp symbol. The artifact doesn't CC a target, so that is good.

    EDIT: Btw, 30% is much. I was on test server and almost dished out 100k damage (on a random lvl 70 IWD mob) with no buffs/debuffs with one daily (dps DC). Add 30% to the damage and it is 130k. Is that overpowered? Maybe not, but after the daily I would in theory have around 15-20 sec. left with the 30% damage buff.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    oh i misunderstood its the player himself who can chose...hm gamebreaking
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