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Final DR Boon

alkemist80alkemist80 Member Posts: 957 Arc User
edited March 2015 in NeverwinterPreview - Feedback/General Discussion
Since life steal has been nerfed into oblivion and feels almost non-existent, is it safe to say that Endless Consumption is no longer the go to final DR boon? For a general DPS toon, would Rampaging Madness be the next best choice? Or is the life steal gamble still good enough to stick with endless consumption?
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  • kss1985kss1985 Member Posts: 118 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Life steal now is much stronger, but at the same time far FAR less reliable... in terms "is not going to happen, but if it happens is great"
    As a melee it is always good to have LS even if now is extremely hard to stack.
  • zekethesinnerzekethesinner Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 805 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Endless consumption should be reworked and give 5% flat boost to LS or so, but....


    (Sin)cerely
    kain


  • abaddon523abaddon523 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    alkemist80 wrote: »
    Since life steal has been nerfed into oblivion and feels almost non-existent, is it safe to say that Endless Consumption is no longer the go to final DR boon? For a general DPS toon, would Rampaging Madness be the next best choice? Or is the life steal gamble still good enough to stick with endless consumption?

    I still heavily rely on Endless Consumption. I absolutely do not want it reworked and will not choose any other boon. To compensate for the reduced chance of LS I've transitioned my character from a small number of massive hits on live to a "million paper cuts" mentality on preview. I spam lots of low damage DoT attacks and rely on some of them proccing LS and some of those being amplified by Endless Consumption to make up a decent healing rate.
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  • katbozejziemikatbozejziemi Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 856 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    You're more likely to overheal and waste the bonus now. It could be changed to give temp HP or increase life steal chance (but then it would become just another no-brainer, so I don't think it's a good idea).
  • henry404henry404 Member Posts: 690 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    With Mod 6 just 8 days away I'd wait before choosing that last boon.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    zekethesinner wrote: »
    Endless consumption should be reworked and give 5% flat boost to LS or so, but....


    (Sin)cerely
    kain

    I agree here. It seems like Endless is a CHANCE upon each lifesteal which is now a CHANCE.

    So its even worse in that its a CHANCE upon a CHANCE to work.

    I would much rather have it be something like a flat LS boost (3-5%) OR you could even make it stay working AS IS, but instead of 3x the severity its 3x the probability.


    Meaning if you are at 10% lifesteal normally, endless consumption would be a chance off each attack to give you 3x the lifesteal chance.

    So lets say you attack 5x.

    1) Endless does not proc, thus just a 10% chance to lifesteal. - result: did not lifesteal.
    2) Endless does not proc, thus 10% chance to lifesteal. - result: did lifesteal.
    3) Endless DOES proc, thus 30% chance to lifesteal. - result: did not lifesteal.
    4) Endless doesnt proc ths 10% chance to lifesteal. - - result: did not lifesteal.
    5) Endless DOES proc, thus 30% chance to lifesteal - result: did lifesteal.

    This would make Lifesteal a little more reliable giving some attacks a much much higher probability when it procs.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    whats the icd of augmented thayan bastion?
  • denvalddenvald Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 702 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Depends your life steal chance, if you're a warlock and you got sicko life steal and you're temptation I'm saying ok - the rest of my dps chars will probably go with madness though
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  • thedemienthedemien Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    whats the icd of augmented thayan bastion?

    60 seconds still.
    I may be a good combo with new Transent Bark due to lower cooldowns on that one now.

    I don't remember number out of top of my head. But I think thayan bastion is like 10 000 damage absorb.
    My question is - what proc first if all are active? thayan or Bark?


    PvE wise I ll probably go for thayan bastion with Barkshield on my HR. You get less hits by dodge and mobs are still quite slow on attacks.
    Also 10% ls pve wise i quite enough. With combo of dot enchant and many hits and dots HR has.
    I did not have issues as pathfinder on it. Not 100% sure but Hunter's teamwork and trigger attack have can trigger LS not depending on each other.

    PvP is different story really. with new Longsomething strike and thayan bastion/bark in new pvp gear I managed to survive 5 minutes of intense attacks under CC of 5 people team while dev testing. But it may be and probably is be bugged.

    Endless consumption should probably stay as it is. It is still may great for not High Dps folks. You have 10 0 000 HP or more. You hit 20k. If endless proc - it is great.

    Also now Rampaging Madness now has better pic - it actually increase chance for LS. so it is working differently now then Endless.

    Still Dread ring is best boons campaign atm.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    PvP is different story really. with new Longsomething strike and thayan bastion/bark I manage to survive 5 minutes of intense attacks of 5 people team while dev testing.
    Using bugged fox then during testing first match with devs Tr went 27-1 and went through my 110k full new pvp armor Hr like butter and I died faster then on live....

    With fox i stod against 2 bis geared gwf easy withouth they cc killed me in 1 rotation.
  • thedemienthedemien Member Posts: 830 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    marnival wrote: »
    Using bugged fox then during testing first match with devs Tr went 27-1 and went through my 110k full new pvp armor Hr like butter and I died faster then on live....

    With fox i stod against 2 bis geared gwf easy withouth they cc killed me in 1 rotation.

    Well I was in air watching my HP going Up and down. So it was not fox at that time.

    Yeah there are a lot of bugs there. I did "enjoyed" lagging whole server when HR applies Long* strike. Fox was bugged too. Btw what are the conditions for it? It was working correct sometimes for me. I did not get exact clear conditions for fox bug.
  • marnivalmarnival Member Posts: 1,432 Arc User
    edited March 2015
    Yeah there are a lot of bugs there. I did "enjoyed" lagging whole server when HR applies Long* strike. Fox was bugged too. Btw what are the conditions for it? It was working correct sometimes for me. I did not get exact clear conditions for fox bug.

    They said its fixed now (even if not implemented) it would work for 12 sec with endless of charges instead of 1. But some things went through it like circle aoe powers, some cc powers and once cced fox dident help.
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