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Idea for greater reward for pvping.
rayrdan
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pvp may be imbalanced.
pvp is still fun.
everyone want to pvp a couple of hours a week.
PvP gives glory.
Everyone get glory.
why not introduce as reward (paying glory ofc) blue marks (union, power, stability 3-4k glory each), refining points (70-80 glory/peridot), greater mark of potencies (10k-15k glory each) ?
new module will ask us to farm all these things while someone is not really into pve grinding.
Even pve people would be helped by this. Everything bound of course, we dont want to speculate with it.
pvp is still fun.
everyone want to pvp a couple of hours a week.
PvP gives glory.
Everyone get glory.
why not introduce as reward (paying glory ofc) blue marks (union, power, stability 3-4k glory each), refining points (70-80 glory/peridot), greater mark of potencies (10k-15k glory each) ?
new module will ask us to farm all these things while someone is not really into pve grinding.
Even pve people would be helped by this. Everything bound of course, we dont want to speculate with it.
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This is completely backwards. In PvE one could get by very easily with very sub-par gear/enchants/artifacts. In PvP it is the opposite. Why then, are we not able to give progression for participating in PvP when it plays such a crucial role and when there are many individuals who are opposed to PvE?
But this is a far far away dream.
They dont give chance of farming in pve as a way of making profits. Imagine doing it in pvp.
And this would result in a bunch of not geared/non experienced people start doing pvp, what would require more of the matchmaking system. Work for devs.
But a good idea of course.
Would love to see greater rewards though.
the point still stands....pvp needs some kind of reward that gives a sense of progression ...
sometimes after 2-3 hours i start to think....maybe it would have been better to farm sharandar a bit for dragon hoard drops.
I'm sure there is a solution to this. The reason we do not see this in PvE is because dungeons allow for kicking unlike PvP. If there was a way to better evaluate performance in PvP it would be an obvious indicator of who was a bot or not, but the way the point system is currently set up it doesn't accurately depict it.
A cool solution would be to have it just generate character specific RP value from matches which could be used only for that character. Those RP points could be put into any enchants, artifact gear, artifacts, ect. that the character currently has equipped/slotted, but then upon removal the character RP points are removed (possibly with a portion or all of the value returned to the characters RP value). It solves the progression & botting problem, but unfortunately still doesn't give PvP-ers a viable way to gain income like PvE-ers. Also this solution is probably too complex for them to consider implementing, but it could work.
Another possibility is to have the PvP reward be bound refining materials that can only be used for artifacts or artifact equipment since these will remain character bound. Similar result as the above except you could not use it for enchantment progression, but this would be a fantastic, very helpful starting point.
At some point they need to wake up and do something though. Every game has bots, but as long as most of them are gone no one cares. Most games achieve this. I fail to see why Neverwinter cannot implement anti-botting measures good enough to at least stop designing their content based on its potential to be botted.
Yeah, haha. Forget what I said, it doesn't even need to be a refining stone. Just make glory usable to refine artifacts/artifact equipment since the currency and the artifacts/gear will remain character bound.
If we are talking PvP items only that can be refined then sure. Otherwise I'd say no thanks. That makes it far too easy on PvP compared to the amount of pve effort that would be necessary.
PvP is an afterthought and will likely always be just that.
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My cynical opinion is that the only reason PVP exists in this game is to subsidize PVE by milking cash from the hyper-competitive "I will smash your face in" set that seems to derive sick pleasure from roflstomping newbs.
What irritates me the most is the entitlement mentality arising from the PVP crowd which thinks that PVP and PVE ought to receive equal footing. Umm, no it shouldn't.
You know, considering the fact that PvP community is rather small, it sounds unlikely that they subsidize anyone. Probably PvE players pay for themselves with mounts, slots, companions, wards etc. Also, if PvP was such a large moneymaker, wouldn't Cryptic provide more of this type of content? Dual spec, large assortment of PvP gear, PvP zones, duels, PvP heroics - instead of boring daily grind zones? I agree with the rest of your post.
If there are BIS PVP-only artifacts and gear then sure.
Only because we have a horribly grindy and awful refinement system in place right now. I actually suggested something that could improve it.
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We can at least push for it since it is a game definitely with potential to be much more PvP oriented. Look to the Russian server. Either way though, you are correct. This is why most of the top PvP-ers have already left and the ones that are still sticking around are simply waiting for releases of games with similar combat/progression systems but more attention to PvP (Black Desert Online, Skyfroge, Blade and Soul). The only problem is there is no other game currently released that has quite a the same vibe which also includes a strong PvP community/attention to PvP/ PvP balance... Not that Neverwinter has these criteria. We recognize that Neverwinter is bad. It is just simply there is nothing good for PvP players out there at the moment. These ones do look promising though, which means in the not so distant future we will all be out of your hair
All that would happen with any reward system is that you'd get more bots showing up. I don't think you can add more rewards till the botting problem is eased. You can't ease the botting problem with the horrible RP system. They show no sign of fixing the RP system with how they're adding 40 more levels to artifacts and increasing enchants to rank 12.
Glad someone actually used his brain before bringing up the blood crystal artifact. Easy strawman to conquer.
The can give all the rp they want without bots until botting pvp becomes more profitable than botting in pve.