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schweifer1982
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I have great fear they will one shot anything.
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GWF 3700Ilvl Éjsötét & ProPala 3200Ilvl Menydörgés (main) & Szürkefarkas 2600 ilvl
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GF gear
I remember a dev saying that there is no difference between the different kinds of damage... as long as you don't have feats telling otherwise (as is the case with warlocks and necrotic damage).
Pallys need to Heal + Tank + Dps.
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For pally to be Jesus Christ, Leonidas, and Achilles rolled into one i guess.
and agreed on the dmg boost; at wills could also benefit from a boost.
yeah only the shared at-wills though cause shielding strike hits like a brick **** house
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ha well maybe a small boost like 5-10%. or even just 200 dmg, if thats too generous.
i definitely agree that the shared ones do need a good one though especially oath strike for its speed its damage is terrible.
A Guardian Fighter with 4997 power, with no [(shield + belt + accesories + artifact) + no paragon feats + boons] hits 2 times harder with Frontline Surge and 3 times harder with Anvil of Doom than the geard Paladin with 8318 Power.
If this is not underpowered as hell then the TR is the weakest class in the game right now.
The GF/GWF have stats that gives them Bonus dmg also power got hit the hardest with the new stats curve and the fact most the dmg the paladin dose comes from DoT means if he wants to see meaningful dmg he will need a balance of power armor pen and crit DoT'S harder when they crit atm the OP dmg is in a good place for a support class say for a few at-wills and Encounters i don't think they need to do much more dmg sense a good chunk of there dmg is also based off of there max and current HP. He also has not hit 70 yet and there's going to be another stats drop off at that lvl
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Just to inform you 8318 power = 47 % dmg bonus on lvl 62 + i was on half hp so aura of wrath gived me +15 % + i used radiant strike = total 67 % dmg bonus you think both GWF or GF have more then this then you know nothing about this game .
I also showed on pictures i have no paragon feats only heroic feats . My GF bonus dmg :combat superiority +10% /+22 str +12%/ +1.8%(str focus heroic feat)+ powerfull attack heroic feat +10 %+ 31% from power = total 64,8%
w/o mark
Now GWF 25 STR +15% / +0,9% disciple of str / +6% endless assault + 37 % from power = 58.9 %
w/o mark
So both dmg bonus are lower then my pallys.
Pure fact any white companion deal more dmg then my lvl 62 pally .
Right, sept the pally has no encounters worth a **** regarding single target damage. What are they going to do in PVP ? Charge Burning Light on a node ? This question will come eventually so Im hoping its addressed sooner rather than later
PS: Imagine a Protector GF vs CW, he can block the wizard's damage and cc ( so far the OP can do the same ), then the GF can pressure the wiz off the node with BC/LS. What can the pala do? Smite is not a gap-closing strike? Scare them away with Templar's Wrath ? Honestly I didnt expect paladins to be so ill-equipped in regard of combat. The ranged classes wont even have to dodge out of the Paladin's melee cause he doesnt have anything to hurt them with besides a daily ( which is ranged anyway ). As far as 'a PVP fight is concerned the paladin is naked in the snow
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Lol ++++++
The next time plz put more word in your thread so that we actually know what the hell its about i did not know and several others if you meant OP did more or less dmg then GWF or GF. and for the record i though you meant they deal less dmg
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PvP wise the paladin is a punishment class and Aura of Vengeance Coupled with Bielthorn Enchantment and Aura Of radiance a person has to chose weather or not they even want to attack the paladin also remember they have shielding strike Absorption they also have multiple ways to get easy Temp Hp the Artifacts Templars and Heroism cleansing. Smite and sacred weapon work pretty well together and templars is still a decent stun so you cant say the class is worthless in PvP cause paragon feats truly make or break the class. I will point you back to the HR that class was though of as worthless in pvp Til me and a handful of players embraced Combat Ranger. So again judge the class when its finished as a whole and atm were playing a incomplete class.
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That part goes without saying. However, even if there is an option for the pala to get +200% damage boost to everything via paragon feats, he still lacks viable encounters to put up a fight. Basically he is all about the passives and here is the place to ask " is the paladin a pacifist who cant fight ? ". I honestly cant beleive a free-to-play russian mmo actually got Paladins right and here, in a WoC sanctioned game we get a battle cleric for a Paladin. In the above mentioned russian mmo the Paladin could pick either a 1h weapon + Shield or a 2h weapon. He had his holy barriers, his buffs and heals but he could also bring down the hammer of needed.
Anyway like I said, we'll see.
PS: I was just rly looking forward to something like this you know:
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Or better yet Oath Of Vengeance!
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.