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GF getting stunned.... question

urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
edited February 2015 in The Militia Barracks
Hi,



I have been in NW for a while and a GF the whole time.



... That said.



I am a Level 60, 19K (gear Score) Guardian Fighter so I have some knowledge and skill...



I play PVP to get AD most days... 4 rounds plus the G PvP.



Yesterday I got a PM from a random teammate which said " why did you just stand there and not attack"



I told him/her that when I was getting hit I was stunned and could not hit back.



They said that there was things a GF could to counter a TR's stun... like Shield bash.



1: was he right

2: what is shield bash?



Thanks



Urlord
Post edited by urlord283 on

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  • juanlu311juanlu311 Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    He is wrong. A perma stun Trs is a GF worst nightmare ATM and there is very little you can do to counter them. Your only chance is wait for a mistake then Bull Charge daily, lauge and anvil. If the Tr didn't die then you will.
  • luclinsjocluclinsjoc Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The only things that help are keeping your shield up which drains your stamina or villains menace which gives you limited immunity and takes your AP.

    If you can't get either of those off not much you can do and when they run out same thing. neither is a great solution for PVP.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    Once stunned you cannot be unstunned. We don't have Unstoppable or any immunity breaks outside of Villain's Menace, but that is a daily and has to be used before you get stunned.

    This is just a simple case of someone who does not know the class trying to be smart.

    There is no Shield Bash power, but he is likely referring to Threatening Rush or Tide of Iron, but you can't use those when you are stunned and they do nothing special to a TR. They just mark or debuff the target, nothing out of this world.

    Only way to deal with a TR is to always move and intermittently raise and lower guard in the hope that you block an attack. Don't stay in one place holding shift. I usually face inside the node and move around in a circle for a few seconds, then I change direction and move in the opposite direction or run across the node as I stand a good chance of running in to the TR. You can also jump every now and then. If you jump you can sometimes catch a glimpse of the TR. Also, slot Bull Charge and just keep on hitting it. You will charge at the TR in the split second he drops out of stealth and you may be able to prone him.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • juleadreamjuleadream Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 372 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    juanlu311 wrote: »
    He is wrong. A perma stun Trs is a GF worst nightmare ATM and there is very little you can do to counter them. Your only chance is wait for a mistake then Bull Charge daily, lauge and anvil. If the Tr didn't die then you will.

    Hit with Indomitable Strength after Anvil... that should do the trick
  • packrat0packrat0 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Fun fact: Villains menace cannot protect you from several TR stuns and CCs. Smokebomb, skullcracker, courage breaker, and I think deft strike as well, will stun/slow you regardless of whether VM is up or not.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    juleadream wrote: »
    Hit with Indomitable Strength after Anvil... that should do the trick

    You actually want to finish with Anvil as it does double damage when the target drops below 40% HP. Anvil below 40% HP hits much harder than IS.

    My personal rotation is: Bull Charge, 3x Griffon's Wrath, Indomitable Strike, Anvil.

    As I have Crushing Pin (+10% damage to controlled targets) and feated Griffon's Wrath (+20% damage from Griffon's), I can usually smash a TR to pieces if I catch it. Emphasis on the if.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • thestaggythestaggy Member Posts: 1,102 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    packrat0 wrote: »
    Fun fact: Villains menace cannot protect you from several TR stuns and CCs. Smokebomb, skullcracker, courage breaker, and I think deft strike as well, will stun/slow you regardless of whether VM is up or not.

    Yeah, that too.
    PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    thanks all
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    packrat0 wrote: »
    Fun fact: Villains menace cannot protect you from several TR stuns and CCs. Smokebomb, skullcracker, courage breaker, and I think deft strike as well, will stun/slow you regardless of whether VM is up or not.

    Well, Courage Breaker is WAI, the rest affecting you during VM is total BS and needs fixing yesterday. I tested a scoundrel for a few months to get a better feel and perhaps learn how to fight them and I gotta say I could end GFs easily regardless of GS. For the whole time on the rogue I was bull charged successfully only once during mid Shocking Execution animation and it only happened because I activated the daily out of stealth. Courage Breaker completely craps on GFs leaving them open for chain use of Duelist Flurry which kills even them. Rogues are out of our league for now. By our league I mean us fighters. My GWF of 24k GS can beat a rogue with luck but I have to go crazy for it to happen, I have to move constantly, always stayin' in top of the rogue and bashing my keyboard like a madman - its not worth it imo, esp when you check the rogue who just gave you such a hard time and he turns out to be several thousand gs below you..
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