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loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
Weapons got upgrade so we can compare a bit. Like we thought you'll need to get Artis to 80 to retake BiS state, but this is also good news for all RP haters, who should get a close-to-BiS replacement through professions (Weaponsmithing & Artificing). Currently it lists the Malabog & Valindra fragments as resources. Might be a placeholder, but might also be a hint that they are revamping the dungeons for 70.

Thank god I stockpiled the materials, because somebody already was smart enough to buy up everything on live.

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  • vasdamasvasdamas Member Posts: 2,461 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I heard everything is bad but when I see this - the difference is just O-M-G.

    Also, items lvl is around 135 :D
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The updated lvl 60 legendary Art weapon is quite acceptable. All that remains is a revamp for the Refinement system. As it is right now, I dont see a new player gettin' his artifacts from green to 80. That would be possible only for those of us who have stockpiled stones.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The purple ones seem 2 times better than orange lv 80.
    A shame
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    The purple ones seem 2 times better than orange lv 80.
    A shame

    Where did you see orange lvl 80 ?
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  • niteingaleniteingale Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 51 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Is there any information what the stats will be at lvl 80 Artifact Weapon? Preview gateway stops at lvl 60. I assume that they will still be superior to profession weapons. IMHO we should also be able to reclaim RPs from artifact gear at 1:1 rate as bound to account tokens. Personally I don't see it coming but that would enable us to concentrate at least on a single toon to get our arti-weapons to max lvl. All others could aim for profession gear.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    I cant find those weapons either in game or preview gateway...whats wrong?
  • umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Where do we have to look in preview gateway?
  • loboguildloboguild Member Posts: 2,371 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    The Artifact stuff is not ready yet, not even all Artifacts have been adjusted to ilvl 120. It's a lock that lvl 80 Artifacts will be higher than ilvl 135.

    The Weapons can be found under the Weaponsmith Profession just like the old crafted ones.
  • umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Okay, it's juste weaponsmith that has been upgraded to lvl 25 then.

    That's all the purple stuff we can find on the preview gateway?
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Probably a worthless comparison until they update the artiweapons.
  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Member Posts: 1,157 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    loboguild wrote: »
    Thank god I stockpiled the materials, because somebody already was smart enough to buy up everything on live.

    That someone may have been me, spent 200k on all of the ones I could snatch up before anyone else noticed, I got them within 3 minutes of preview going up I think? :P
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  • katamaster81899katamaster81899 Member Posts: 1,157 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Probably a worthless comparison until they update the artiweapons.

    They did upgrade that artifact weapons - These are far better.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    They did upgrade that artifact weapons - These are far better.

    Where did you see the upgraded one?
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    1st page pics?

    Those are still lv 60, i thought the same before
  • asterotgasterotg Member Posts: 1,742 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    They did upgrade that artifact weapons - These are far better.

    The last time I checked, the itemlevel of artefact gear was not raised. Furthermore, they can get refined to an even higher level.

    Lets think about this. You either have a artefact weapon as BIS, in need of millions of RP to refine, or a crafted weapon, everyone can build with weaponsmithing at lvl 25.

    Follow the money.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    loboguild wrote: »
    The Artifact stuff is not ready yet, not even all Artifacts have been adjusted to ilvl 120. It's a lock that lvl 80 Artifacts will be higher than ilvl 135.

    The Weapons can be found under the Weaponsmith Profession just like the old crafted ones.

    Maybe i need the assets to see them
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    rayrdan wrote: »
    Maybe i need the assets to see them

    yeah you do. Without at least some of the mats to make them, you don't see them, even on live.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    asterotg wrote: »
    The last time I checked, the itemlevel of artefact gear was not raised. Furthermore, they can get refined to an even higher level.

    Lets think about this. You either have a artefact weapon as BIS, in need of millions of RP to refine, or a crafted weapon, everyone can build with weaponsmithing at lvl 25.

    Follow the money.

    i think those in the picture are just upgraded lv 60 stats, which you will have to refine further to lv 80.
    is to give people a reasonable amount of stats for the huge work they did to bring them to lv 60.
  • umscheumsche Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 461 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    No, my lvl 47 artifact orb got a huge increase in stats on preview too.
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    very nice, level 80 artifact gear is still BiS tho as stated by one of the devs.
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    teribad15 wrote: »
    i wonder the amount of RP u ill need to actualy max them out.

    it will probably be something like 5m refining points for item to 80...i fear that.
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    someone already made a post, too lazy to find it. its around 9m+ rp from level 1 to 80.
    he based it on the current scaling of the rp required to level up. hope the devs will AT LEAST let me refine with 99 pcs of stones IN JUST ONE CLICK.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    someone already made a post, too lazy to find it. its around 9m+ rp from level 1 to 80

    ye that s would confirm my number
  • commanderdata001commanderdata001 Member Posts: 307 Bounty Hunter
    edited February 2015
    Good news! Big RP hater here!

    All I have to do is level atifact weapon only my main and craft to my alts!
  • emilemoemilemo Member Posts: 1,718 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Good news! Big RP hater here!

    All I have to do is level atifact weapon only my main and craft to my alts!

    Knowing Cryptic, if you're a casual player by the time you level the weapon making professions there will be a new, better weapon available thru other means. :p
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  • darkstarcrashdarkstarcrash Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,382 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Good news! Big RP hater here!

    All I have to do is level atifact weapon only my main and craft to my alts!

    Look more closely: the epic artificing weapons are BoP. You'll need to level artificing or weaponsmithing on each character.
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    Look more closely: the epic artificing weapons are BoP. You'll need to level artificing or weaponsmithing on each character.

    As it was with the BiS weapons crafted at lvl 60 ;)
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  • djoffer1djoffer1 Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited February 2015
    That someone may have been me, spent 200k on all of the ones I could snatch up before anyone else noticed, I got them within 3 minutes of preview going up I think? :P

    Lets assume that even cryptic wouldnt be ******ed enough to allow lvl 60 craft stuff, be usable for the new BIS weapons... They are probaly gonna revamp all current dungeons i would imagine, and hopefully they have enough sense to also put new stuff in them.
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