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chestnut13
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If we can have a repository for ideas and suggestions, that may help. I don't know a thing about coding, but let's assume a major overhaul is not in the cards. My simple fix is as follows:
RAINBOW parties only in PVP.
Simple. What does it do? It lessens the effect of poor design and class balance. When one class is OP, there are always two per team. 40% of the match is dominated by an overpowered class which makes play suck, reduces interest in playing by weaker classes, increases que times, increases AD campfire sitting, and anihilates new players interest in PVP.
Even with an OP class, having only one on a team makes every other class involved more viable and engaged, and dramatically lessens the effect of poor balance. Yes Devs, it will hide your mistakes.
It also makes for a far more interesting strategic outlook for matches. This will enhance interest and enthusiasm to play. I think it's pretty simple to put in place and I believe it will greatly increase playability and lessen people's frustration level.
RAINBOW parties only in PVP.
Simple. What does it do? It lessens the effect of poor design and class balance. When one class is OP, there are always two per team. 40% of the match is dominated by an overpowered class which makes play suck, reduces interest in playing by weaker classes, increases que times, increases AD campfire sitting, and anihilates new players interest in PVP.
Even with an OP class, having only one on a team makes every other class involved more viable and engaged, and dramatically lessens the effect of poor balance. Yes Devs, it will hide your mistakes.
It also makes for a far more interesting strategic outlook for matches. This will enhance interest and enthusiasm to play. I think it's pretty simple to put in place and I believe it will greatly increase playability and lessen people's frustration level.
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Not saying OP's suggestion is the holy grail, but long queue times are a non-issue if the games behind it would be competitive and meaningful.
Thanks for your reply ... hopefully you can see the benefit upon further reflection. If 2 people want to play together they have myriad options in PVE. Also, nearly everyone has at least one alt so that takes care of that. It would not increase que times for the game as a whole ... only for the OP class. This is about fixing a broken system so PVP can be fun. It's not about keeping the system broken because two TRs, or whatever class is OP per mod, can't romp through a match cause they are buds.
No the real solution is to do as other mention and separately balance pve and pvp. What you propose is a bandaid, a bandaid that will actually cause several problems that are the equal to the problem it's meant to solve. I'm not a hardcore pvp'er but I did enjoy casually going into pvp before mod3. I'd like that to be again, however I see in your bandaid just more things to drive people away from the game.
This is a terrible idea and here's why: manpower.
It is much simpler to focus on obtaining PvP class balance first, and then making PvE content that's centered around that PvP balance.
From a coding perspective, you want something to last when you actually code a feature, therefore, it's better to focus on the harder job involving more variables (PvP) than the simple job as you can take out the simple job at any time. This is simply prioritizing jobs.
In any case, Class abilities already have their different effectiveness in PvP and PvE due to the fact that players can think and react in contrast to instances and dungeons. This reactive environment in PvP are equatable to the extra variables involved in coding.
They can always just add more health, ad a level of control immunity to monsters in dungeons, but for a lasting PvP balance, the balancers will simply have to place more focus on PvP first and foremost. I already have a large thread existing on what PvP balances could be introduced for a more skillful and balanced gameplay: http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?827901-Class-balance-in-PvP-has-become-utterly-disgusting-and-skilless
Sigh. Yes, it is a band aid ... It's a band aid because a band aid is required. The alternative ... competent development and separate balance for PVP is not a reality. This will probably get edited too but so what. If one believes that after 5 mods of unbalanced play and mega nerfs and uber buffs that create an OP class, all will be peachy,
well I've get a bridge in Florida to sell you. This is simply to make PVP playable in the meantime.