I've noticed a bunch of adamant requests to remove KV from Tiamat runs and insisting it causes lag. I personally haven't seen any issues when I run KV during Tiamat, or when other GF's run KV during Tiamat either. Just wondering what peoples experience has been.
Don't use it.
KV is only good for boosting your point score and there is a chance stupid payers will kill you during the head phase, been there, died with shield up when 20 player walked into blue breath lol.
Btw it generates a lot of extra texture and that may cause lagg, when I play domination on HD and some GF use valor i have a really bad FPS lagg (and I have a good pc).
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damnaciousMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 354Arc User
Don't use it. KV is only good for boosting your point score
Using KV increases your damage and that of your party by up to 15% when used in conjunction with Into the Fray, so no, KV is not only good for boosting your point score. Additionally, it may help keep other people near you alive for longer and may significantly assist in pulling the aggro of NPCs during the cleric phase. I know it's helped me when others have used it and i've helped others while using it.
when I play domination on HD and some GF use valor i have a really bad FPS lagg (and I have a good pc).
Every single time I have had someone complain to me that my using KV is causing them to lag, after a few questions I have determined that every single one of those people are not prepared to use or do not use lower graphics settings.
I have no difficulty at all with KV as it does not cause me to lag and I use a 3 year old laptop that wasn't meant for gaming coupled with having one of the worst internet connections to the game server in the developed world.
So, my advice to all those who do believe for some reason that they are suffering lag as a result of KV being used is to turn down your graphic settings until your computer can cope as obviously your computer can't cope running at the settings you want it to. If all your settings are at base minimum and you're still having problems then get a better computer.
Regardless of which, people should stop complaining.
Using KV increases your damage and that of your party by up to 15% when used in conjunction with Into the Fray, so no, KV is not only good for boosting your point score. Additionally, it may help keep other people near you alive for longer and may significantly assist in pulling the aggro of NPCs during the cleric phase. I know it's helped me when others have used it and i've helped others while using it.
Every single time I have had someone complain to me that my using KV is causing them to lag, after a few questions I have determined that every single one of those people are not prepared to use or do not use lower graphics settings.
I have no difficulty at all with KV as it does not cause me to lag and I use a 3 year old laptop that wasn't meant for gaming coupled with having one of the worst internet connections to the game server in the developed world.
So, my advice to all those who do believe for some reason that they are suffering lag as a result of KV being used is to turn down your graphic settings until your computer can cope as obviously your computer can't cope running at the settings you want it to. If all your settings are at base minimum and you're still having problems then get a better computer.
Regardless of which, people should stop complaining.
*facepalm* really? so just cause you havnt had issues when you use it it means no one else should when you use it? makes sense. i mean i havnt noticed it. but being so arrogant to say everyone else is just complaining when they say there having issues. next time you have a problem with this game tell yourself the same thing your telling others. cause it is very rude.
He said people that are unwilling to adjust their graphic settings for the fight shouldn't complain, that isn't being arrogant that is just common sense. With that said if they do adjust their graphic settings downwards and still have issues then gameplay can be adjusted. People unwilling to do anything to help their situation other than simply complaining endlessly is a problem in of itself.
Anyways, anyone's input is welcome. This isn't about what encounters one should or shouldn't be using to optimize the encounter, but it's purely based upon latency mechanic and if it causes additional lag for the collective 25 people in the fight.
I'm just wondering if KV contributes to spamming of the combat log similar to Astral Seal mechanic that has been discussed thereby causes additional latency for everyone involved. I understand their is a graphic component of KV, but that seems to be easily alleviated with adjustment of graphic settings from what I've seen.
KV deals damage to tiamat (along with Guarded Assault) when someone steps into breath. I personally think that when this happens before/during heads are spawned, it causes the head to glitch. I haven't seen this particular glitch recently so i am assuming they fixed it somehow.
Anyways, if you mean FPS lag, well it kinda drops around 5 fps when a bunch of people get hit with AoE. the mini-freeze at the beginning of the lag is what annoys me sometimes because sometimes it interrupts my at-wills or whatever i'm doing.
KV deals damage to tiamat (along with Guarded Assault) when someone steps into breath. I personally think that when this happens before/during heads are spawned, it causes the head to glitch.
entirely false/untrue/incorrect/wrong.
what causes heads to glitch are; letting clerics get hit while channeling making them go below 100%. (thats why you don't leave clerics right away)
standing on the spawning point of heads before they pop out.
He said people that are unwilling to adjust their graphic settings for the fight shouldn't complain, that isn't being arrogant that is just common sense. With that said if they do adjust their graphic settings downwards and still have issues then gameplay can be adjusted. People unwilling to do anything to help their situation other than simply complaining endlessly is a problem in of itself.
Anyways, anyone's input is welcome. This isn't about what encounters one should or shouldn't be using to optimize the encounter, but it's purely based upon latency mechanic and if it causes additional lag for the collective 25 people in the fight.
I'm just wondering if KV contributes to spamming of the combat log similar to Astral Seal mechanic that has been discussed thereby causes additional latency for everyone involved. I understand their is a graphic component of KV, but that seems to be easily alleviated with adjustment of graphic settings from what I've seen.
Thanks again
The question was towards Tiamat, where already a lot have FPS issues on weaker computers, so I answered to this one.
I played games on a 10 year old PC till last year and I know the pain of doing stuff on a rock, and I assume there are more tiamat fails when someone uses KV since a lot see a freezed screen and can't do dmg.
The problem is with the game its not optimised, even I have few FPS issues with it, while I could play games with 10 times better graphics on ultra even in large scale battles, but gameplay is more important for me than graphics and I am used to play everything on low, because I don't like when my pc heats up.
what causes heads to glitch are; letting clerics get hit while channeling making them go below 100%. (thats why you don't leave clerics right away)
standing on the spawning point of heads before they pop out.
Im not talking about that glitch, im talking about the one when one head doesn't pop out although you can still see its Hp bar, and you will find people screaming don't attack the head before it fully spawns. (it used to get stuck down and cannot be targetted)
Im not talking about that glitch, im talking about the one when one head doesn't pop out although you can still see its Hp bar, and you will find people screaming don't attack the head before it fully spawns. (it used to get stuck down and cannot be targetted)
i am a GF i play with KV 90% the time and have no lag, so ots not KV, try use directx9 instead of auto (old game engine, do it on MC and see lag go away).
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damnaciousMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 354Arc User
*facepalm* really? so just cause you havnt had issues when you use it it means no one else should when you use it? makes sense. i mean i havnt noticed it. but being so arrogant to say everyone else is just complaining when they say there having issues. next time you have a problem with this game tell yourself the same thing your telling others. cause it is very rude.
"rude"? A case of the pot calling the kettle black...
If you read correctly, I clarified that I use an old non-gaming laptop and not a high-end gaming PC, I do not suffer lag when using KV and that majority of the people who do 'lag' when I use KV run their graphics at a setting that their computers can not obviously handle. If the lag was universal or only exempt on certain high-end computers then I would tentatively believe it would be a problem solely with the Power itself. What I illustrated is that this is not the case.
Perhaps you should read properly in future and take a good, long hard look at yourself and your own actions before criticising and labelling someone as 'rude' and 'arrogant'.
Damnacious, out of curiosity, have you played as another class in a group with a GF who uses KV?
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katbozejziemiMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 856Arc User
edited January 2015
KV has way more performance impact than I would like. I REALLY don't need all these fancy glows, beams, and other fireworks. A circle below the affected characters and a sound effect would be plenty enough.
One thing that is annoying in Tiamat is that even if you're in a party KV affects the characters who are closest to you instead of having priority on your party members.
As for the KV+Guarded Assault bugging Tiamat that is complete bull****, I ran it on my GF around 20 times with that combo and I never had it bug out.
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damnaciousMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 354Arc User
It can cause lag but it's not going to everytime. Combine it with a few other problem abilities though and bam, raid at a standstill. Better not to use it.
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KV is only good for boosting your point score and there is a chance stupid payers will kill you during the head phase, been there, died with shield up when 20 player walked into blue breath lol.
Btw it generates a lot of extra texture and that may cause lagg, when I play domination on HD and some GF use valor i have a really bad FPS lagg (and I have a good pc).
Using KV increases your damage and that of your party by up to 15% when used in conjunction with Into the Fray, so no, KV is not only good for boosting your point score. Additionally, it may help keep other people near you alive for longer and may significantly assist in pulling the aggro of NPCs during the cleric phase. I know it's helped me when others have used it and i've helped others while using it.
Every single time I have had someone complain to me that my using KV is causing them to lag, after a few questions I have determined that every single one of those people are not prepared to use or do not use lower graphics settings.
I have no difficulty at all with KV as it does not cause me to lag and I use a 3 year old laptop that wasn't meant for gaming coupled with having one of the worst internet connections to the game server in the developed world.
So, my advice to all those who do believe for some reason that they are suffering lag as a result of KV being used is to turn down your graphic settings until your computer can cope as obviously your computer can't cope running at the settings you want it to. If all your settings are at base minimum and you're still having problems then get a better computer.
Regardless of which, people should stop complaining.
*facepalm* really? so just cause you havnt had issues when you use it it means no one else should when you use it? makes sense. i mean i havnt noticed it. but being so arrogant to say everyone else is just complaining when they say there having issues. next time you have a problem with this game tell yourself the same thing your telling others. cause it is very rude.
Anyways, anyone's input is welcome. This isn't about what encounters one should or shouldn't be using to optimize the encounter, but it's purely based upon latency mechanic and if it causes additional lag for the collective 25 people in the fight.
I'm just wondering if KV contributes to spamming of the combat log similar to Astral Seal mechanic that has been discussed thereby causes additional latency for everyone involved. I understand their is a graphic component of KV, but that seems to be easily alleviated with adjustment of graphic settings from what I've seen.
Thanks again
Anyways, if you mean FPS lag, well it kinda drops around 5 fps when a bunch of people get hit with AoE. the mini-freeze at the beginning of the lag is what annoys me sometimes because sometimes it interrupts my at-wills or whatever i'm doing.
entirely false/untrue/incorrect/wrong.
what causes heads to glitch are; letting clerics get hit while channeling making them go below 100%. (thats why you don't leave clerics right away)
standing on the spawning point of heads before they pop out.
The question was towards Tiamat, where already a lot have FPS issues on weaker computers, so I answered to this one.
I played games on a 10 year old PC till last year and I know the pain of doing stuff on a rock, and I assume there are more tiamat fails when someone uses KV since a lot see a freezed screen and can't do dmg.
The problem is with the game its not optimised, even I have few FPS issues with it, while I could play games with 10 times better graphics on ultra even in large scale battles, but gameplay is more important for me than graphics and I am used to play everything on low, because I don't like when my pc heats up.
Im not talking about that glitch, im talking about the one when one head doesn't pop out although you can still see its Hp bar, and you will find people screaming don't attack the head before it fully spawns. (it used to get stuck down and cannot be targetted)
by the spawning point, i meant the point where the heads pop out, you can just bug it by standing there try it on your next run
"rude"? A case of the pot calling the kettle black...
If you read correctly, I clarified that I use an old non-gaming laptop and not a high-end gaming PC, I do not suffer lag when using KV and that majority of the people who do 'lag' when I use KV run their graphics at a setting that their computers can not obviously handle. If the lag was universal or only exempt on certain high-end computers then I would tentatively believe it would be a problem solely with the Power itself. What I illustrated is that this is not the case.
Perhaps you should read properly in future and take a good, long hard look at yourself and your own actions before criticising and labelling someone as 'rude' and 'arrogant'.
One thing that is annoying in Tiamat is that even if you're in a party KV affects the characters who are closest to you instead of having priority on your party members.
As for the KV+Guarded Assault bugging Tiamat that is complete bull****, I ran it on my GF around 20 times with that combo and I never had it bug out.
In Tiamat? Yes. With every class except SW.