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9.3k gs Solo CN:

thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
edited January 2015 in PvE Discussion
Ok, after attempting this for 5 hours and not being successful, (although coming very close to it!), one of the people who had being helping me by leaving an AFK alt in the dungeon needed to use their char and left. After this, a random person queued and voted me out so I couldn't continue trying :(. I would now like turn over the burden to someone who perhaps has more experience playing the TR class. In my attempts I used a char with 10.7k gs, however I am certain it is possible with 9.3k. Here is a picture of my best attempt, to give someone proof that it is definitely possible.

http://postimg.org/image/46kl62e71/

Some advice for killing the draco solo, for whoever takes up the burden, (if anyone does):
You HAVE to use impossible to catch, smoke bomb and shadow strike. This is why:
Smoke bomb: This has a double utility, the first is disabling monsters when coming out of stealth and the second is for the huge amounts of life steal it gives.
Impossible to catch: You need this to help dodge the dracolich's roar, whilst it is possible without it, it is darn difficult.
Shadow strike: To reset stealth meter after smoke bomb, its as simple as that.

Tactics:
The ideal time to unload your power bar is after the draco has swooped/barfed. What you want to do is run onto a large pile of adds, smoke bomb, ITC, dodge, shadow strike, stealth. You need to try and predict roar and whilst it is not always possible to do so, it normally occurs after the draco does either.
When unstealthed you want to lead all the adds to one side of the draco before restealthing and then fight the draco on the opposite side. This makes it so you take less damage if you fail to dodge roar and so that its also easier to target the draco.
Try to stay away from fighting beside the tail, an easy way to turn the draco if you need him to face a certain direction is to stand on the side you want him to turn to.
When the dragon swoops, if you wait 1 second, you can dodge anywhere within the swoop and you don't have to actually exit the swoop. The same is true for the hands.

Build:
You need to be a MI TR and you need to have one of the sets that boosts stealth.
You need to be specced for permanent stealth, this does not mean you need to be a sab specced TR, but it does mean that if you aren't sab, you need to be able to perma without the sab path. In my attempt I was playing with an executioner TR.
You need a decent amount of HP such that if you fail to dodge a roar, it doesn't mean certain death. I am sure 28k HP is fine.
You probably need a soulforged enchant.
You do NOT need a weapon enchant, whilst i was using a weapon enchant, it isn't actually necessary.
You probably need an augment, however with an augment, you can't just stack all of your super OP enchants if you want to keep the run legitimate, rather you should only slot R5/R6 enchants to keep with the spirit of trying, similar to what I did.

Other requirements:
A lot of health potions
A decent amount of skill
A large amount of patience
Some spare time

Although unlikely, I hope someone tries to take up the challenge, as TR is only one of my alts and is not geared properly and I also don't play with him very often, but I would like to see someone pull it off.
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  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Reading the title, i had a feeling it was going to be a TR, when i clicked on the image link...

    Lol TRs these days...
  • lerdocixlerdocix Member Posts: 897 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    pando83 wrote: »
    Reading the title, i had a feeling it was going to be a TR, when i clicked on the image link...

    Lol TRs these days...

    TRs are balanced, you just need to learn to play, exploit some macros, see into the future, use The One Ring, be adept of The Force, have Wolverines self regenerating powers and a few more things and you'll be able to fight like equals with 4k gs lower then you TRs. That is if you won't be one shotted by lashing blade or shocking execution at the start of the "fight".
  • koalazebra1koalazebra1 Member Posts: 1,173 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    lerdocix wrote: »
    use The One Ring,
    my precioussss
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    pando83 wrote: »
    Reading the title, i had a feeling it was going to be a TR, when i clicked on the image link...

    Lol TRs these days...

    Hey cut me some slack...my main is a CW :p
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    Nice job getting as far as you did. Kind of disproves all the CN is too hard people even with it not being fully completed.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    charononus wrote: »
    Nice job getting as far as you did. Kind of disproves all the CN is too hard people even with it not being fully completed.

    I am 100% certain I could complete it, however after 5 hours I had gotten that far or past half way 4 times and it wasn't due to it not being doable, it was entirely because I made some stupid mistake. Doing it that many times and getting that far, only to wipe is so soul crushing however that I will likely not be the person who actually posts the full solo. After doing it for so long, I am feeling mentally and emotionally drained and I need a long break from challenging myself like that. To do it with 9.3k gs, it would take about an hour of near perfect play, including dodging every single roar, which is a very demanding on a player, so I would advise you to be well rested if you try something like this yourself :p

    Btw, soloing the first 3 bosses and getting to draco took me 35 minutes, its only due to the roar that this fight is so challenging.
  • hmdq#4491 hmdq Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    I do not understand these people who like to "solo" in a cooperative game and based on party! pure egomania or a terrible sense of waste of time. And the funny thing is that hypocrisy is so I've seen a lot CWs there that makes guide saying that the game is "cooperative" and the other hand boosting the ego to make a solo a difficult dungeon . So "solo" in this game only shows me two things : 1. the power creppy is absurd, OR 2. something is very wrong in terms of PVE/classes balance, maybe both.
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    hquadros wrote: »
    I do not understand these people who like to "solo" in a cooperative game and based on party! pure egomania or a terrible sense of waste of time. And the funny thing is that hypocrisy is so I've seen a lot CWs there that makes guide saying that the game is "cooperative" and the other hand boosting the ego to make a solo a difficult dungeon . So "solo" in this game only shows me two things : 1. the power creppy is absurd, OR 2. something is very wrong in terms of PVE/classes balance, maybe both.

    It's not an ego thing. It's the fact that powercreep has advanced so far that it's the only way to get a challenge.
  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    TR:"This looks like pre mod1?"
    GWF:"Yah... around that time.."grumble
    CW:"Weeeeeeeeee"
    We can pretend.
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  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    hquadros wrote: »
    I do not understand these people who like to "solo" in a cooperative game and based on party! pure egomania or a terrible sense of waste of time. And the funny thing is that hypocrisy is so I've seen a lot CWs there that makes guide saying that the game is "cooperative" and the other hand boosting the ego to make a solo a difficult dungeon . So "solo" in this game only shows me two things : 1. the power creppy is absurd, OR 2. something is very wrong in terms of PVE/classes balance, maybe both.

    well...In that image my char had 10.7k gs, so I would say class balance, not power creep. However, it is not an easy thing to do regardless of the fact that it can be done. As charononus says though, I do it for the challenge, also to prove that CN is not in need of a nerf like a certain other thread proposed and that it needs buffing :p
  • user4035user4035 Member Posts: 145 Bounty Hunter
    edited January 2015
    lerdocix wrote: »
    exploit some macros.

    I thought this game didn't support macros. Please explain.
    I would love to be able to have macro that swaps my encounters/feats,etc.. especially for my guardian fighter where I literally swap out every encounter, feat, at wills, and daily when I go from pvp to pve to skirmish.
    Also gear and enchant swapping macros would be great as well.

    hquadros wrote: »
    I do not understand these people who like to "solo" in a cooperative game and based on party!

    Its really just a side challenge to do in a game you already enjoy.
  • frishterfrishter Member Posts: 3,522 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    And here's me unable to do it on an almost 22k CW ): I will have to try it again though. Decided to actually make purified gear that I previously didn't bother with.
  • joocycuzzzzzzjoocycuzzzzzz Member Posts: 577 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    This honestly is interesting me.

    I'm going to strip down to 8K GS and attempt to solo it.

    Once I do I'll record it.
    Beta player

    One of the many Control Wizards that misses Shard Of The Endless Avalanche. RIP Shard (Beta-Mod3)
  • tonyswutonyswu Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    TR:"This looks like pre mod1?"
    GWF:"Yah... around that time.."grumble
    CW:"Weeeeeeeeee"


    GF: "Wake me up when we are OP..." Zzz...
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    This honestly is interesting me.

    I'm going to strip down to 8K GS and attempt to solo it.

    Once I do I'll record it.

    TY man for doing so :) Although I personally did not manage to complete it solo here, I will be glad to know the attempts I made inspired someone to do it.
  • grac3n77grac3n77 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 234 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    There are a lot of TR have done it before you, it took them at lease one and a half hour to complete it. you can watch it in you tube. for pointers.
  • ayrouxayroux Member Posts: 4,271 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    lerdocix wrote: »
    TRs are balanced, you just need to learn to play, exploit some macros, see into the future, use The One Ring, be adept of The Force, have Wolverines self regenerating powers and a few more things and you'll be able to fight like equals with 4k gs lower then you TRs. That is if you won't be one shotted by lashing blade or shocking execution at the start of the "fight".

    All you have to do is build your character super tank and give up all offensive stats to achieve 50k HP (non GF). Then you can take a lashingblade at the beginning of the fight and MAYBE even both SoD procs - because lets face it they arent using vorpal.

    I mean "you should have to choose between tank and DPS" right? So either:

    1) Die to 1 shot and have DPS
    2) DONT die to 1 shot and have zero DPS.

    Or 3) Reroll a TR and you can have both!

    #TricksterWinter!!!
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    ayroux wrote: »
    All you have to do is build your character super tank and give up all offensive stats to achieve 50k HP (non GF). Then you can take a lashingblade at the beginning of the fight and MAYBE even both SoD procs - because lets face it they arent using vorpal.

    I mean "you should have to choose between tank and DPS" right? So either:

    1) Die to 1 shot and have DPS
    2) DONT die to 1 shot and have zero DPS.

    Or 3) Reroll a TR and you can have both!

    #TricksterWinter!!!

    Please don't bring this TR OP satire to this thread, this is firstly not a PVP thread and secondly its not about attempting to do something in an OP geared character, its about challenging yourself to do something with the absolute bare minimum required. Whilst you might show a disliking for the TR for whatever reason, its not my fault as I NEVER pvp and so at no stage have I ever been the result of your misery. Furthermore, I don't want this thread discussing getting some challenge out of PVE getting locked because of PVP whiners.
  • thefabricantthefabricant Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 5,248 Arc User
    edited January 2015
    grac3n77 wrote: »
    There are a lot of TR have done it before you, it took them at lease one and a half hour to complete it. you can watch it in you tube. for pointers.

    I have seen TR's do it with 14k gs and above, but never one with 9.3k gs and I can't find a vid of it on youtube and believe me, I have looked. Can you please link me to one, if one exists, so that I can see exactly what it is they are doing.
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