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Makes no sense that epic dungeons don't do 2 things
arcticmedic
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First thing, epic dungeons don't satisfy old dungeon quests. You level up in this game so fast that by time you get some dungeon quests, you are already too high to Q for them, or you simply have bypassed the zones completely to go to the level appropriate zones. I have a bit of OCD, and I never drop quests from my quest log. You do the epic version of the quest in your log so you can finally get rid of it, and it doesn't qualify because you didn't do it in "normal". Makes no sense.
Epic dungeons don't qualify for the daily dungeon when you hit 60. You have to be 60 to do them, and you have to have a certain gear score to enter them, so why the heck doesn't it qualify for a daily 60 dungeon? So, until you start opening your campaign trees, week in and week out you only have 1 dungeon that qualifies. 1 of the most annoying dungeons at that. When your a DPS class, you can sit in the Q for an hour or more waiting for that 1 dungeon. Someone explain to me the logic of why ANY epic dungeon should not qualify, so at the very least, you can Q for a few dungeons and take the one that pops first, greatly dimensioning the amount of time you might have to sit around (especially for those of us with lives that can't sit around) waiting to accomplish your daily.
And god forbid if you decide to stop at a merchant when your waiting in the endless Q. Get done selling/buying, and the Q you have been waiting in for an hour is suddenly gone at that very moment.
Epic dungeons don't qualify for the daily dungeon when you hit 60. You have to be 60 to do them, and you have to have a certain gear score to enter them, so why the heck doesn't it qualify for a daily 60 dungeon? So, until you start opening your campaign trees, week in and week out you only have 1 dungeon that qualifies. 1 of the most annoying dungeons at that. When your a DPS class, you can sit in the Q for an hour or more waiting for that 1 dungeon. Someone explain to me the logic of why ANY epic dungeon should not qualify, so at the very least, you can Q for a few dungeons and take the one that pops first, greatly dimensioning the amount of time you might have to sit around (especially for those of us with lives that can't sit around) waiting to accomplish your daily.
And god forbid if you decide to stop at a merchant when your waiting in the endless Q. Get done selling/buying, and the Q you have been waiting in for an hour is suddenly gone at that very moment.
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Join a guild, it helps, join a channel, legit can be a big help, lfg is a last resort, and queueing imo well I'd rather log out.
We started the game just as poor. Yes you have to catch up farther and some things are gone now, and others have changed. However you also have all the lord protector dailies that we didn't have and the GG dailies that we didn't have. Since you aren't in a guild you aren't doing GG so it's not like you aren't skipping some dailies anyways. As far as you shouldn't need to join a guild. Well it's an mmo. Guilds are part of mmo's imo and not joining one to me means that you are looking for a single player title more than an mmo, because Guilds are a fundamental part of mmo gameplay.
I agree that any level 60 dungeon should count, but at least you have those options.
edit: i saw that you said 'until you start opening the campaign trees.' Still, VT is very easy to unlock. Elol doesn't take too long as long as you have been doing the quests since they become available before level 30. Neverwinter's middle name is patience.
Yes people ask for higher GS for dungeon because people have their own life's and can not simply baby sit every person through a Fairly simple t2 dungeon. I know its sad to say but Cryptic needs to Give us a reason to move lower geared players up. Even the ad you can get from T2 now has drastically Decreased to a point where you can no longer run get a super lucky drop 10% drop divided by 5 = 2% chance of a drop that will sell for 300-800k ad that 1 item that used to sell for 800k ad, now sells for 40k.
Now you might spend i dont know 1-6 hours running a dungeon to get that drop. Where you could run some Pirate king get a bunch of drops that'd sell for 100k+ within that time frame.
I guess what im trying to say is, this game, its not for casual players unless you have a couple $1000 to spend on unlocking everything.
If you need 18kgs + for any content, you are running with the wrong people. There is no content in the game that requires that. The only people that require that quite frankly have horrible skill and need to rely on incredibly overgearing the content. (Not referring to pvp, pvp is a complete mess, that quite honestly is beyond fixing imo)
Says you, but then from that I would say you are NOT a casual player,no surprise then you don't think like one nor see the game the way 'some' casual players do (I'm not the kind of casual player that moans about the fact I can't put the time of money into it that others do, whining about it not being 'fair' or other such lame BS,so I can't/won't speak for them!)
I would say you are correct if the casual player wants to do well at PVP, getting the BIS level stuff is important for that else... well resign yourself to the fact that most those you are going to face are going to stomp you flat in about two seconds flat.
PVE however, it has plenty to offer. A group of friends or an active guild that accepts casual players where you can get a chance of putting a team (Probably of other casuals) together to run dungeons and progress at a slower rate. Yep you can't play as often, accept to will progress much slower.
For PVE you can get by with gear far below BIS. I'd aim to be around 13k-14k GS before trying Tiamat, at that level you should be at least pulling your weight and not making it harder (look at what is being said when there is too many just over 10k!). It'll take you longer to prepare, but slow progress will still get you there (I have only 1 toon that is just short of 10k, the other 7 range between 10.5k and 13k. Sometimes I don't get time to play for a month or so at a time and it is just this last couple of month I've been about to team up with a couple of friends that joined, they just got to 60 with My help, now I should be able to do more, grouped up!)
I would like to see the daily match its description.... ANY lvl 60 should count for it, that's what it asks for!
I think that even as a lvl 60 you can enter normal dungeons from the first realms like Cloak Tower. Not sure it will count as a completed quest though.
I'm casual in the vein of limited time. I've run most PvE content and I'm always in eSoT because it's sometimes interesting. No rank 8s. No artifacts over level 65. Normal enchants. Don't need anything more because content is easy to learn, old and predictable. Any more improvement is just gravy. Very thick, slow to pour gravy. If one is struggling at 17k and thus needs 18k+ something is being done inefficiently. It's not bad for casuals from a difficulty standpoint. It is bad for casuals who want BiS or 18k+ GS but...then are they really casual?