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Any cheap way to refine Artifact equipment?

gerult#2209 gerult Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 34 Arc User
edited December 2014 in General Discussion (PC)
well i guess cheapest way to refine artifact was using shards but i couldnt figured it out it about artifact weapons. Do you guys have any suggestions?
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  • djoffer1djoffer1 Member Posts: 404 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Nothing cheaper than equipping 4 dragon hoards enchantment and farm. Pretty sure that cryptic is gonna release some new way to earn RP sooner or later though.
  • ironzerg79ironzerg79 Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 4,942 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Yeah, there's no cheap way at the moment, unfortunately.
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  • gerult#2209 gerult Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    already have the enchantments but %1 is too low.. stones are coming bound, so maybe they increase the drop rate :(
  • hmdq#4491 hmdq Member Posts: 508 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    buy stacks of ranking 4 (+-6500ad) wait for 26/12 and be happy.
  • gerult#2209 gerult Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    which is cheaper rank 4 enchantments or shards? but i guess it would be much easier to buy stacks of rank 4s
  • lewstelamon01lewstelamon01 Member Posts: 7,415 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I think there's a misunderstanding here.

    If you're trying to refine artifact equipment, you CANNOT use enchantments or shards. You can refine artifacts that are NOT classified as "equipment" (e.g. Lantern of Revelation, Heart of the (color) Dragon, etc.) but NOT equipment (main hand, off hand, belt, and so forth).

    You CAN, however, use identified level 60 equipment (it must match the level of the equipment, but at this point all arti equipment is level 60, so....) of any grade to refine your belts and such. A 2x multiplier is given for equipment that matches the type of your artifact (for ranged weapons such as pact blades, orbs, symbols, and the like....although oddly enough the 2x bonus is given to greatswords and longswords but NOT daggers....). So, you could get cheapie rare and epics that match your desired artifact and refine with those, but the AD/RP ratio isn't really ideal. Occasionally you can catch blue equipment on the AH for <500 AD.
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  • wildwolf8wildwolf8 Member Posts: 161 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    stacks of rank 4s don't work on artifact equipment, only on artifacts like the lantern and others. So, there is currently no quick and easy way to refine artifact equipment, even with 2x refining coming up, unless you want to spend a lot of money.
  • gerult#2209 gerult Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 34 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    first, i was looking for a quick and cheap way to refine artifact equipment and they told me that there is none yet, then we started talking about artifact refining. i guess ill just buy lots of rank 4 stacks
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  • oldbaldyoneoldbaldyone Member Posts: 1,840 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    anduril000 wrote: »
    first, i was looking for a quick and cheap way to refine artifact equipment and they told me that there is none yet, then we started talking about artifact refining. i guess ill just buy lots of rank 4 stacks

    I think the idea with Rank 4's is buy a ton of them, wait for the 2xRP day, then sell them for a profit as people frantically try and get their upgrades in...then use the profits to buy the type of RP item you actually need.

    I can't even fathom at almost 700k for a stack of lesser reso's how much it would costs at current prices to get a legendary. Once again, those who haven't been in the game forever, and those who don't exploit previous bugs to get massive amounts of AD, get screwed.

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  • myowmyowmyowmyow Member Posts: 1,923 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    shadw2012 wrote: »
    This is what i do when i run my dailies, dump most greens, and all blues, the dragon go round is good for that also, drops include off hand blues, neck blues, and blue belt, i have 2 mules that have all bags and banks full of blue belts waiting for 2x rp atm.
    Sure it will take awhile but thats what it takes, even @ green the artibelts, offhand, and neck are good, im in no hurry.

    That's about all you can do now, unless you have loads of AD to spend on the now pricey Peridot stacks . . . (100k AD for 99 I think)
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  • khimera906khimera906 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 898 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    No reliable way to refine Artifact gear now, nothing reasonable. The drops from the Dragon Hoard Enchantments have been nerfed and bound to account so it's harder than ever to refine Artifact gear.
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  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    No cheap way. They are making refinement stones BOA which means there will be almost no cheap stacks on the AH very very soon (they aren't that cheap anymore right now)

    Good luck to new players and middle-class players who will never be able to afford it
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    TR daggers are count as offhand, so you can throw them in your artifact offhand for the 2X bonus. I think it's due to the fact that it can be equipped in both mainhand and offhand for TRs since they don't have a weapon enchantment slot.
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Another good source for people to upgrade artifacts would be to do your Dread mini dungeon daily. You can get Greater Marks which are great RP for artifacts (not weapons), and sometimes blue marks from caskets. Then you get a reward from the arcane coffer, which most of the time is 2 peridots, sometimes 1 aquamarine, not a lot, but it's free and unbound. They should really update the rewards in this coffer, and add in chances to drop higher RP items. Occasional Black Opals, or a very rare chance for Blood ruby won't hurt the game.
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  • drinnthdrinnth Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Artifact Equipment to Epic = 500000 RP
    Artifact Equipment from Epic to Legendary = 4000000 RP

    I know the above figures are not exact but pretty close for sake of the argument.

    Most likely RP drop is about 500 RP. Granted you can get up to 10k RP is one drop if you are very lucky, but it is very unlikely you will get stacks of these.

    1 stack of 500 RP = 500 RP x 99 = 49500 RP (99000 RP on a x2 weekend)
    Amount of stacks to get to Epic = 10.10 or 11 ( 6 for x2 weekend)
    Amount of stacks to get from Epic to Legendary = 81 (41 for x 2 weekend)

    With Dragon Horde ICD around 3 mins average, average time to farm 1 stack is 297 mins.

    Time to farm stacks to get to Epic = 3267 mins (1634 mins for x2 weekend). 54.45 hrs (27.225 hrs for x2 weekend). 2.26 days (1.13 days for x2 weekend).
    Time to farm stacks to get from Epic to Legendary = 24057 mins (12029 mins for x2 weekend). 400.95 hrs (200.475 hrs for x2 weekend). 16.70 days (8.35 days for x2 weekend).

    Just something to think about and that is just for 1 piece of equipment, now multiply by 4.
  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    They gotta do something about this
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  • aggerethaggereth Member Posts: 43 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    As lewstelamon01 stated and you did not seem to understand not enchantments of any rank nor shards are helping you simply because u are talking about artifact equipment so if you buy them you will end up with refining nothing u need either gear or resonances /peridots to actually refine a piece of artifact such as neck/waist/main & off hands.

    So do NOT buy ranks 4s unless u want to refine the artifacts at the bottom (tried to be as clear as possible so that u do actually get some help since u insisted ..
    anduril000 wrote: »
    first, i was looking for a quick and cheap way to refine artifact equipment and they told me that there is none yet, then we started talking about artifact refining. i guess ill just buy lots of rank 4 stacks
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  • piejalpiejal Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    drinnth wrote: »
    Artifact Equipment to Epic = 500000 RP
    Artifact Equipment from Epic to Legendary = 4000000 RP

    I know the above figures are not exact but pretty close for sake of the argument.

    Most likely RP drop is about 500 RP. Granted you can get up to 10k RP is one drop if you are very lucky, but it is very unlikely you will get stacks of these.

    1 stack of 500 RP = 500 RP x 99 = 49500 RP (99000 RP on a x2 weekend)
    Amount of stacks to get to Epic = 10.10 or 11 ( 6 for x2 weekend)
    Amount of stacks to get from Epic to Legendary = 81 (41 for x 2 weekend)

    With Dragon Horde ICD around 3 mins average, average time to farm 1 stack is 297 mins.

    Time to farm stacks to get to Epic = 3267 mins (1634 mins for x2 weekend). 54.45 hrs (27.225 hrs for x2 weekend). 2.26 days (1.13 days for x2 weekend).
    Time to farm stacks to get from Epic to Legendary = 24057 mins (12029 mins for x2 weekend). 400.95 hrs (200.475 hrs for x2 weekend). 16.70 days (8.35 days for x2 weekend).

    Just something to think about and that is just for 1 piece of equipment, now multiply by 4.

    The icd is not 3m
    try 5 g hoard run with 15% change drop
    is it worthed ? If you wanna do the grind with this current price of runestone, yes it is
  • gabrieldourdengabrieldourden Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I'm farming with 3 enchants at 1% each and typically get 20-22k RP per hour, meaning 40-44k with 2x weekends. So bringing one piece to legendary means around 100 hours of mindless farming.
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  • twilightwatchmantwilightwatchman Member Posts: 2,007 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    I think this is now the most alt-unfriendly MMO around. Grinding and refining for one toon is grim enough, but for multiple toons? I'm just in the process of getting my second toon her artifact mainhand and frankly the thought of duplicating the grind from my first toon makes my soul cringe.
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  • dfncedfnce Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 509 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Can artefact equipment be used as RP source?
    What is actual refinement bonus of artefact equipment being used for upgrade another artefact equipment ?
    Is it x2 or x5 like for artefacts?
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  • jaotutjaotut Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 576 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    dfnce wrote: »
    Can artefact equipment be used as RP source?
    What is actual refinement bonus of artefact equipment being used for upgrade another artefact equipment ?
    Is it x2 or x5 like for artefacts?

    Yes you can, but it doesn't work as good as artifacts. I tested it a while ago, and the breaking point of where you start to lose RP is at level 3. So if you have spare artifact equipments, then go ahead, but don't go out of your way to get one to use as RP.
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  • drinnthdrinnth Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    piejal wrote: »
    The icd is not 3m
    try 5 g hoard run with 15% change drop
    is it worthed ? If you wanna do the grind with this current price of runestone, yes it is

    Note it says average. While the ICD may be somewhere near 30s for non-foundry, for some classes and those with only 4% to get a drop, it can take anywhere up to 3 mins to get a drop. Your time may vary, but at most those times are fair for most of the classes in this game. Also most grinding would usually be done inside a farming foundry meaning 3 mins is more than likely.
  • andikttnandikttn Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 52 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    djoffer1 wrote: »
    Nothing cheaper than equipping 4 dragon hoards enchantment and farm. Pretty sure that cryptic is gonna release some new way to earn RP sooner or later though.
    Exactly. They are pretty cheap, I would totally recommend this. Farming your *** off will take forever but it is SO worth it, once you finally get there. But there isn't a quick way. The game lets players farm for ALL the things they need in the game. Pretty rad for a free to play, they didn't have that OR AD to zen type of thing.
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  • mrvincent1959mrvincent1959 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 740 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Using Dragon Hoard Enchantments is the best way. In fact...it's the best thing this game has going at the moment because it allows me to go back and play SHarandar, Icewind Dale and Dread campaigns etc because I know I will be picking up Refinement Stones along the way.

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