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Reason why stealth does not need to be changed (PETITION TO NOT NERF STEALTH)
demonmonger
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obsydian666 wrote: »You were playing CW and you know those words are lair
Try to catch Tr with single target power, little example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZgunp9xP_o&list=UUVjUUAyS6GgT42RvVQYb3AQ
I hope the devs watch this video and reconsider making any changes to stealth...
Every class has the ability to destroy TR just like this before stealth reveal when attacking changes take place.
Now "imagine" what would happen to any tr that is seen for 2 seconds after attacking a real CW HR GWF GF TR SW and even a real DC that understands how to play this game properly.
People that use their skills and encounters correctly destory TR in or out of stealth.
People that do not use their skills and encounters correctly die to TR and make complaints that it needs to be nerfed.
I promise you if stealth reveal changes come all tr will do is daze and wait... daze and wait... and we will have things worse than perma stealth from 90% of all TR.
AIO adapt improvise overcome.
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Also the poll will show which classes will dominate TR hands down if these stealth changes go live.
Hopefully they won't
babies don't deliver polls.
I want the people in charge to get a feel of what classes have problems with TR.
Then perhaps those classes can have something added to them to help assist them instead of something being taken away from others.
Seriously, the way I play my tr, I am in visible range attacking you our of stealth 90% of the battle. My stealth is used to do the following.
1) wait for your defenses to fall
2) wait for you to turn your back
3) assist me in escaping combat
4) assist in positioning while in combat
5) critical hit on a skill
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2ejmf8Mjk&list=UUW7jTjMIe6YmDH5XsCa901g
see?
What I don't want to see is all TR go for scoundrel / sab hybrid path to counter the new changes..
The TR in this video, is using barkshield and is whisperknife.... and is awful. quit trying to prevent a nerf to your ******edly overpowered class
I don't see how this TR is "awful", personally. He/she does not have great gear, sure, but the TR sure seemed perma to me.
I would also like to note that the CW was NOT using:
- Lantern of Revelation
- Steal Time
- Icy Terrain
you know, all of the "advice" that perma-TRs gave out last mod whenever a CW came crying to the forums on how to beat a perma-TR. I don't recall anyone saying use Storm Pillar, or to bunnyhop around, like this CW was doing.
So if TR stealth does get nerfed, the permas partly have themselves to blame for giving out misleading advice on how to counter them, which just intensified the QQing on the forums.
You are being negative...
If someones name is listed and they have no problems killing TR.
YOU can ask them how to manage and do better.
That is the only purpose of names.
There is no shame..
This is not a bashing contest..
This is a method for all to learn how to play better and how to perform better with their class.
I am not talking about things that I feel need to be changed with TR.
I am saying stealth is not the issue.
and the KD ratio has alot to do with gear vs non gear.
Would it not be better if we had a better pvp match making system where gear score mattered.
For example:
5v5 pvp lvl 60 (6000gs - 8000 gs)
5v5 pvp lvl 60 (8001gs - 11000 gs)
5v5 pvp lvl 60 (11001gs - 13000gs)
5v5 pvp lvl 60 (13001 - 15000gs)
5v5 pvp lvl 60 (15001gs+)
AND if people swap gear once entering and go over the GS limit they are kicked out of pvp with penalty instantly.
add me as friend pls
People call me perma when obviously I am not.
Anytime a TR uses stealth and does not lose a battle, people complain that the TR is perma.
Ok folks no more trying to tell and convince these color blind people that the sky is blue and not grey.
They will always claim the sky is grey because they lack the ability to see as we do.
This is going nowhere and will always go nowhere.
We have been down this stealth nerf path before, and now it seems it has come back to bite us all in the rear again.
As always...
Adapt improvise and overcome (TR way of life in neverwinter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrwTDfdck7I#t=132
My view is leave it be.
It usedto be that there was NO CLASS BALANCE, repeat no class balance. Let's go back to that and to use an old Army phrase that each player in each class should, "Be the best that you can be." It used to be the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY of DMs to make encounters, challenging and somewhat winnable. But on occasion you died. TR stealth has been complained about since May-June, 2013 (and maybe before)and my answer to that is, "Deal With It!!!" I don't play a TR, but admire those who do and do it well.
My answer is if it'sw too easy at Easy, advance to Normal, Hard, Epic or Legendary. And stop Nerfing the classes, Buff the Monsters. As a player gets better, it should be easier to win the same quest or PvP or Dungeon. Until you take it to the next level.
Example: the Allfather quest has a very hard, for most, but eventually you win and move on. Complaints about it - yes. Nerfing done to Allfather - no. Second example: Ten Towns and Arcane Brotherhood NPCs in PvP in Icewind Vale were Buffed. Complaints about it - yes. Nerfing done to the NPCs - no. Newest example Tiamat. Many complaints about not winning - yes. Was Tiamat nerfed? - no.
In conclusion, TR stealth, even perma-stealth, can be dealt with over time by the players getting better over time. There is a cap and maybe TRs got their faster (so what), but if you are at the top, you can't get any better without new skills. it appears to me that a few complaints (and one complaint = 1 complainer and 34 who agree, but won't complain) GO BACK TO BEING THE BEST YOU CAN BE, stop nerfing the classes, and get rid of all the nerfs done in the past. It's no fun to do some quest, then your class gets nerfed and it's like you're fighting with weights on your wrists and ankles slowing you down and making you less effective to your party in both PvE and PvP.
This is why we can never have constructive collective forum discussions.
Someone always comes in with their own destructive agenda and gets the discussion shut down.
Why do we even have forums at all?
I thought it was so we could report bugs.
I thought it was so we could discuss ways to play better.
I thought it was so we could see what possible changes would take place.
I thought it was so we could give feedback on all issues of the game.
I thought it was so we could better work as a whole as a community to make something great.
Maybe I was wrong..
First of all- watch this movie to the end and later comment.
Second- I am 21k pvp CW and yes, i kill this tr once and later this TR kill me 2 or 3 times, my life was saved by soulforge.
third- This tr have got 13,8k gs i have 21, show me any other class who can kill someone 7k gs higher. Besides- 25k DoTs from 13k gs TR, are you kidding me?
This is my second video against 17k TR- skip to 11 minute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wit7oS3fICg&list=UUVjUUAyS6GgT42RvVQYb3AQ
In this video i have no single chance to catch or kill him, and when i meet tr with GS equal to mine- i am dead in few seconds. I can hit by gloaming cuts even for 15k dmg, people this is single atwill and make 15k dmg, please wake up.
Nobody can kill TR in end game pvp, his is just to op. Perma stealth, piercing damage, a lot of deflection + high strength of deflection + 4 dodges etc....
And you know what, I am Cw but in worsed situation is GWF becouse he can't even dodge TR skills. Few days ago there was a film in this forum i will paste it again, and please look what TR is doing with TOP GWF- skip to 22:15 http://www.twitch.tv/crollax/c/5651535
And there is Video from my friend- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrmke1LDTGE&list=UUIyzWxGNaD2MErhZeZEbedg
What kind of proofs do you want more?
I watched tge video...
Gwf made tons of mistakes then stood still.
As some say.. Gs does not equate to skill.
I do.. But can edit polls..
10 choice limit also on choices
2) Just going from the first page of replies, I can see this thread is going a whole lot of nowhere. Again, please read the RoC and abide by them. Disrespect of other posters is neither welcomed nor allowed.
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