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darkballaddarkballad Member Posts: 1 Arc User
edited December 2014 in PvE Discussion
Here is my brilliant idea:

Let's get rid of gear bonuses in PvP.

Let's make every class balanced with the other. Equally weigh offensive, defensive, support, and utility roles. It would be okay to make one class a little bit more offensive than another at the cost of defense or utility. Don't allow equipment, enchant,or artifact bonuses. True balance, everyone on an equal playing field.

Why do you all think? Once more into the breach, my friends!
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  • piejalpiejal Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 403 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    darkballad wrote: »
    Here is my brilliant idea:

    Let's get rid of gear bonuses in PvP.

    Let's make every class balanced with the other. Equally weigh offensive, defensive, support, and utility roles. It would be okay to make one class a little bit more offensive than another at the cost of defense or utility. Don't allow equipment, enchant,or artifact bonuses. True balance, everyone on an equal playing field.

    Why do you all think? Once more into the breach, my friends!

    Balance equip? I think it's not gonna happen because this is not pvp server
    and the p2w player is what make this game running
    I think what need to be done is balance class mekanic fitur power as we see DC and TR got bug
  • overdriver13overdriver13 Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    darkballad wrote: »
    Here is my brilliant idea:

    Let's get rid of gear bonuses in PvP.

    Let's make every class balanced with the other. Equally weigh offensive, defensive, support, and utility roles. It would be okay to make one class a little bit more offensive than another at the cost of defense or utility. Don't allow equipment, enchant,or artifact bonuses. True balance, everyone on an equal playing field.

    Why do you all think? Once more into the breach, my friends!

    Well, you take away peoples incentive to spend money and you take away the game. That said, that incentive can remain in place AND balance can be more or less achieved by a system that matched people with roughly equal GS.
  • geeq5geeq5 Member Posts: 223 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    darkballad wrote: »
    Here is my brilliant idea:
    Don't allow equipment, enchant,or artifact bonuses. True balance, everyone on an equal playing field.

    So basically you're politely asking the devs not to make money?
  • zxornzxorn Member Posts: 160 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    Wow, that was a little painful to read.

    What you want doesn't even exist in shooters anymore let alone a class based MMO. You want to get rid of gear customization ( which tenacity sorta did already ) the more interesting thing about making a character in this game. If someone out gears your it's because they either paid for it or have put more time/initiative into the game than you, either scenario is appropriate to them beating you in PvP.

    Lets just all play a white Atari block with 5 hp and shoot smaller white blocks at each other that deal 1 damage.
  • gerbilhurdlergerbilhurdler Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 418 Bounty Hunter
    edited November 2014
    zxorn wrote: »
    Lets just all play a white Atari block with 5 hp and shoot smaller white blocks at each other that deal 1 damage.
    WOW

    Such game

    Much Balance

    WOW!
  • shhbaconshhbacon Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    Only way to fix pvp is to make everyone able to one shot :P
    I miss the unreal tournament instagib servers...
  • isuuck2isuuck2 Member Posts: 491 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    no wont take out gear, because that is an incentive to spend money. rogues need to chill out on the dazing, or at least not be able to daze from stealth, and dc's need to hit a button to heal the whole ****ing party, at least, like jesus ****ing christ
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    isuuck2 wrote: »
    no wont take out gear, because that is an incentive to spend money. rogues need to chill out on the dazing, or at least not be able to daze from stealth, and dc's need to hit a button to heal the whole ****ing party, at least, like jesus ****ing christ

    xD /10char
  • helpimblindinrlhelpimblindinrl Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    geeq5 wrote: »
    So basically you're politely asking the devs not to make money?

    Look at all the pvp games where you can't buy advantages and how wildly successful they are.

    Total honesty, Neverwinter players are the guys who can't hack it in games like that so i totally see where you are coming from.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    Cryptic makes a lot of money from players buying zen
  • jonbomayejonbomaye Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    That would be awesome, im tired of playing opvp when theres Overpowered rogue players against you.. I mean, rogue is way too overpowered in this game.. -.-. Everything else in this game is fine, but they should make it more balanced.
  • sokushi88sokushi88 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    they need to just make 3 pvp tiers for 60+ 12.5k and below in T1,12.6k-16k in t2,16.1k+ in T3.It's bs when you get a team of 5 ppl below 12k some even below 10k,and have to face 4 or 5 19k+ ppl
  • overdriver13overdriver13 Member Posts: 1,521 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    jonbomaye wrote: »
    That would be awesome, im tired of playing opvp when theres Overpowered rogue players against you.. I mean, rogue is way too overpowered in this game.. -.-. Everything else in this game is fine, but they should make it more balanced.

    More TR qq that I agree with lol. I think the ONLY problem with TR in domination is on-node stealth. On-Node stealth should be about half what it is. TR's are essentially fast moving stealthy assassins so it makes sense that they can sneak up and basically stun/two shot you while moving between nodes. But having the same ability ON-NODE makes the class OP. After being on node for 10 seconds, a TR should not be able to stealth for 30 seconds unless they leave the node.
  • hoofithoofit Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 122 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    PvP does need balance and this has been said time and time again but no one takes any notice. This could be for a number of reasons no time, not high on there priority list but to me number 1 is to generate more money it works great for this as everyone want to be the best no on wants to look bad so they spend more to get there char up to a decent build, to me this is why there will be no balance.
    Total honesty, Neverwinter players are the guys who can't hack it in games like that so i totally see where you are coming from.

    But you play the game don't you? I know a huge portion of players here in NW play other games where PvP is equally matched plus there not all guys some are gasp shock horror ladies and some if you believe all you see in zone chat are a mixture of both lmao.
  • yukimaru153yukimaru153 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    piejal wrote: »
    Balance equip? I think it's not gonna happen because this is not pvp server
    and the p2w player is what make this game running
    I think what need to be done is balance class mekanic fitur power as we see DC and TR got bug

    I get so tired of hearing the pay to win thing. Sorry but this game gives the best pvp gear away for free. All it cost is your time. Enchants you can take you time and rank up. Heres something you have heard "Rome wasn't built in a day". This is not a playstation or xbox game. You actually have to farm things here. I'm already sickened with how much free stuff the games gives away. Because all it does it makes it to where people rush to get it all. Play for a about 2 weeks to a month then quit. Its to easy. The time it took to write this silly post could have been spend in game farming. But nope people rather come here and complain and hope the devs make the game even easier for them. Knowing dammn well they just going to quit because once you have the best of everything any game is boring.

    Pay to win? No try actually playing the game. They give you everything all you have to do is get off your <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> and do something to lvl it up. Tired of this bs. The balance issue is with class skills themselves. Like a single target class doing more aoe damage than an aoe class.... or class that can do everything and have no weakness. I think that was the point of this thread. Not for people to beg for yet more free stuff.
  • kattefjaeskattefjaes Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users Posts: 2,270 Bounty Hunter
    edited December 2014
    This is not a playstation or xbox game.

    You clearly haven't been paying very close attention recently :)
  • yukimaru153yukimaru153 Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    kattefjaes wrote: »
    You clearly haven't been paying very close attention recently :)

    I suppose not lol and its till not Zelda! Ya get my point :-p lol
  • helpimblindinrlhelpimblindinrl Member Posts: 972 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    hoofit wrote: »



    But you play the game don't you? I know a huge portion of players here in NW play other games where PvP is equally matched plus there not all guys some are gasp shock horror ladies and some if you believe all you see in zone chat are a mixture of both lmao.


    Oh I'm fond of Neverwinter. Its dumb fun. I just don't pretend its something its not and its absolutely not even remotely balanced balanced for competitive play or difficult in anyway to play. Skill ceiling is so low. And that's fine. Its a casual game. Its what you play when you aren't up for anything serious.
  • burkaancburkaanc Member Posts: 2,186 Arc User
    edited December 2014
    if they wanted pvp balance they would make balance patches every few weeks not once per mod

    smaller changes more often is the only real way to balance stuff
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  • rollingonitrollingonit Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    edited December 2014
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    2. You may very likely be one of those that says, "its my money, i can spend it how i like, how does effect you?", which indicates you have no idea how marketing and marketing research effects everyone
    3. Not sure why your post isnt deleted/moved considering it has the term which we arent allowed to discuss, also probably same thing for post you're responding too
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