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Module 5 - still worth doing temp SW???
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After the recent nerf to temptation soul bonding, from 200% shared LS to 125 % , is it still worth it doing temp warlock???
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'Teplocks' are great healers over time but with little to no clutch heals. For the most part, the only time people in my parties go down is when there is significant spike damage and in those cases another 75% life steal from me after the fact is not going to help much.
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They'd be totally broken if they could fill you back up in 2 seconds.
Anyway, I haven't tested extensively. I do like the healer role through pew pews, but 75% was absolutely brutal. It's like the devs don't want a second healer class and wish to enforce a DC in every party.
Depending on how bad it turned out I might just switch to Fury since what's the point of a healing path that does not heal?
I get that the Devs felt Temp warlocks were putting pressure on DC's but they just seriously buffed DC so I don't think they needed to nerf Temps healing. Buff one or Nerf the other but to do both is overkill and ruins Temp build primary role as healer and makes them a Jack of all trades - a bit of off-tank, a bit of heals, a bit of dps but unable to excel in anything now....
PS Vampiric Embrace doesn't really help matters
This game doesn't seem to require us to have that one healer one tank 3 dps party. Sure that can be nice to have and works great, but it's completely not necessary to have that setup for any of the dungeons with a decently geared party. But even if that IS the desired setup, why is it a problem if one of those 3 dps is also healing and debuffing a bit? And if you don't have a DC, then it's only a benefit to the team if one of the dps is also healing/debuffing...
Point is, if we stop trying to make it seem like temp is a replacement for a DC in a party and just look at it as a warlock with less damage than fury but more survivability and team boost, then we will have happier temp sws.
I also feel like people don't take the time to try to understand what other classes actually do. Anyone looking for a temp sw to do the same thing that a DC does, doesn't understand what a temp sw can do.
They are still great for parties because they do solid damage and boost the team.
Most well geared players already have enough life steal to not need a DC *OR* a tempt warlock and would prefer someone equally high geared laying the hurt.
I find that I still heal the party and that's enough for me. My very last dungeon just before I swapped to SW was on my CW doing ToS. We tried to four man the last boss, had no DC, no GF, and the comp wasn't all that hot. We failed a few times, disbanded, and that was my last straw. I wanted to pick a character that would make *sure* my teams would finish the dungeon and my tempt warlock provided that.
Granted, other than Fiery Bolt (and Killing Flames, but by its nature it's only really suited for bosses) all other damage dealing skills are DoTs from Harrowstorm to Dreadtheft (yay for interruptable DoTs!) to Warlock's Bargain and even our T2 four piece bonus. That means most times things die before even the T2 four piece even starts ticking. There is no point even using TT.
In all senses of the word the less well geared the party is the more a tempt warlock shines. Not only are we keeping up but our DoTs have the time to tick, we can use TT and etc.
Playing a tempt warlock is not for someone who has a well geared guild who always play together or those nutty LFGers with demands of 15-17k GS so they can run ePK. A tempt warlock is for people who run dungeons with random people, random GS and random comps. Sure, sometimes we might do it with four CWs and blitz through content, but other times we can take undergeared players and force them to stay upright.
And we do this via pew pew, no need to baby sit health bars. Which is great.
Bottom line: I'm sticking to my Tempt.
A Templock can,t throw a massive heal to save a dying tank there not set up that way nor was that their intended role but sadly most people just looked at healing tally at the end, I have a cleric too so I understand but the classes shouldn't be compared.
But the fact remains that Temptation build was set up as a healing build and a great many people spent a lot of time gearing and speccing their warlocks purely for healing and now theyve been made obsolete in a purely healing role.
I have no problem understanding why people are upset and I believe the devs made a mistake because the Templock was a really useful and viable choice. Now people are going Fury or Damnation and can't say I blame them....
Mara Angelbane - 22k Thaum CW, Vaya Con Dios 15.2k Dragon CW.
Mara Shadowskiss - 21.5k Destroyer GWF, Mara - 17.2k Sentinel GWF
Mara Duskwalker - 15.4k Healing DC
Mara Hawkeye -14.6k HR
Mara Spiritforge - 16.9k Tanky GF
Bad Religion - 14.7k Pew Pew DC
Mara Shadowstouch,Maara - TR's
Its not a Nerf, they indicidentally put the number too high originally, which effectively made a healign DC useless. They simply balanced it out so that the average group would still prefer to have a real DC.
I however, would only want my group to consists of GF Tank, DC as DPS/Debuff, SW with Fury, and then a CW / GWF combo or just 2 CW's.
Fact of he matter is, in PvE most proper SW's can survive everything and anything just fine Solo. you add Knights Valor and its **** near impossible to kill me but you still need to keep that GF alive, but to do that shouldn't require an outright healer.
The only reason why I dont liek to have more than 1 SW on the team is its less effective use of dailies. we Tend to have the "Lets get TT up first and worry about the rest later" mentality which unless you are with guildies on TeamSpeak, can get ugly as to who does TT and when.