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dahkoht72
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Greets all,
I'm about to start playing NW (and in it for a long haul) , as an old school AD&D player and also huge mmo fan going back to EQ launch it just seems that for now what limited game time I have , I'd enjoy it in NW most. (Combination of setting , mix of solo and group , community seems decent etc).
Anyway as someone starting out I wondered if could get some advice on the worth of the current packs for a new player.
As in is the Heroes Pack still a decent value these days , or would buying something like the warlock pack and zen or a mix of the warlock pack and the dragon pack etc be better ?
Don't mind spending a few bucks on something I really enjoy , and planning on sticking with NW for the long term as other than possibly EQN (long way off)there's nothing on the horizon that I can see really looking forward to. (ArcheAge was a huge disappoint for me due to community and just overall support of the game from the devs and that was my last hope for a "new mmo anytime soon)
I'm about to start playing NW (and in it for a long haul) , as an old school AD&D player and also huge mmo fan going back to EQ launch it just seems that for now what limited game time I have , I'd enjoy it in NW most. (Combination of setting , mix of solo and group , community seems decent etc).
Anyway as someone starting out I wondered if could get some advice on the worth of the current packs for a new player.
As in is the Heroes Pack still a decent value these days , or would buying something like the warlock pack and zen or a mix of the warlock pack and the dragon pack etc be better ?
Don't mind spending a few bucks on something I really enjoy , and planning on sticking with NW for the long term as other than possibly EQN (long way off)there's nothing on the horizon that I can see really looking forward to. (ArcheAge was a huge disappoint for me due to community and just overall support of the game from the devs and that was my last hope for a "new mmo anytime soon)
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The Dragonborn pack is nice, but due to lacking an account wide mount and companion unlock. Its not as useful as a starting pack.
Edit: Got mixed up between the Feywild and Hunter packs (Hunter looks like good bit of account unlocks while Fey is single , but cheap though)
You are still confusing the 19.99 feywild pack and the 59.99 knight of the feywild pack. The advice given was for the 59.99 pack. It has a 110% speed mount and a level 30 companion that are account unlocks. Every character you ever make gets them free. It also unlocks a playable race, the moon elf. Very good starting pack if you can afford and do not mind the Unicorn, it gets some hate for the "butterflies or doves" that follow it.
I have a Knight of the Feywild pack. I wouldn't care if the unicorn farted rainbows, it's a 110% mount. It gets me from point A to B in a hurry, and that's what matters. Plus it's accountwide.
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Neither do I. I like both of my unicorns. Knight of the Feywild was my 1st pack. It was the Moon Elf that pushed me over. Eventually, I bought the Guardian pack, second choice, but the Dire Wolf became my favorite leveling companion over the Sylph. I think either of the 59.99 packs is a good choice for a starter pack as they fit any character. Whereas the 34.99 kits are mostly class specific.
Yea, completely agree with this. The $60 packs are long term investments, and really good if you really plan on playing more then one character. Account wide epic level pets and mounts are hard to beat. The Warlock and Hunter packs are nice booster type packs, you get less, but they are really good if you are planing on playing one of the classes the pack supports. Although I gota admit, the Erinye pet in the warlock pack is one of the better pets in the game, even if its not epic quality.
Looking them over and trying to pick a class , curious if race choice really sets you back if you don't go the min/max route ?
As in if I just like the idea of a Moon Elf guardian fighter or such would that still work well enough? ( I don't worry about being hardcore min/max just wanted to still be viable as a group tank if went that route or such).
Looking forward to jumping in and get going , just looking over the forums for class advice , guild recruitment ( I posted there couple weeks ago looking for friendly , no drama type guild for a over 40 career and family guy) etc.
I do appreciate the tips here on the packs.
my GF is a halfling cus I thought it was hilarious to make the shortest/skinniest girl halfling with the largest bust size possible a tank. It turns out that halflings ended up being pvp master race and they are decent gf too.
Race choice doesn't really matter, unless you are minmaxing to the extreme. The worst possible race choice for class x can still get the job done 95% as good as the best race choice.
how you roll your initial stats matter far more than race choice. "best" race is 2% more dmg or 2% more crit (depending on class) than the worst race assuming you choose the same stats. The game won't allow you to choose abysmal stat distribution, ie the worst you can do is 15 13 14 for primary / secondary / secondary so it's not like you can roll a wizard with a 3 int or anything.
Honestly none of the packs are worth their costs unless you especially want something in them.
For example the feywild pack everyone here is mentioning, unless you really want a unicorn mount or a sylph companion (only really useful if you plan on doing a lot of open world pvp...which isn't especially doable currently anyway) the feywild pack is only worth maybe $35, because you can buy equivalents, or better, directly from the zen store/AH for that same amount of zen.
Personally I would recommend picking a zen store mount (they are all account-wide) you like, the stormrider Clydesdale being the cheapest at 2500, and maybe another 1000-1500 in zen you can convert to AD to buy things such as a bag or two, level scaling gear, and maybe a fancier healing companion like the fawn or sunite priestess. You'll save $20 that way and get more useful items.
Okay, Panic.
What about if I had decided to go warlock , would the warlock pack be worth it then ?
(down to either that or GF or GWF)
it does <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> rainbows. couldnt beleive it either but saw it with my toon eyes while zerging a dragon HE
1. Do you plan on creating loads and loads of characters, or only 1-2?
2. Do you plan to stick mainly to PvE, PvP, or a combination of the two?
3. Are you more concerned with actual character performance, or are things like aesthetics important to you as well?
4. What kind of budget are working with, and do you see yourself playing NW for more than 3 months? 6 months? A year?
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If it is a major thing in your life to spend $20.00 US and this money comes from careful penny savings, then you could do much better than ANYTHING in this Game. Play, earn AD, convert to Zen, and get stuff that way.
If this represents just some Mad Money that you were going to blow in mindless entertainment ANYWAY, go nuts. The Night Of The Feywild Pack is great. So is the Dragonborn Legend Pack (it's pricy, though).
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Here's the deal , I despise single player games , and oddly enough Shadows of Mordor I just bought a few weeks ago and got one hour of playtime out of it and got sick of the same scenery and while I can see how its a great game , its not my type of game.
Money wise, I'm not rich at all , but work two jobs , support a wife and kids and have expenses , but spending say 100 a month on computer games of some sort is easily in my budget for entertainment for myself.
Bio as to your specifics ,
1. Mostly likely 1 main , one alt possibly.
2.Combination of the two , leaning towards PVE slightly (used to be hardcore PVP , now just like to dabble in it)
3.Aesthetics is a tie for me actually , I want to actually enjoy looking at my character (example in previous games even if two hander dps was slightly behind dual wield I'd do two hander as I really enjoyed the style if that makes sense).
4.I'd say at least 6 months , due to ArcheAge disappointing me , my love of mmo's , and EQNext is the only option on the horizon for me and its one year plus out atm. Budgetwise I can afford the Hero pack no issue etc. I've wasted far more on my Steam library that sits there unused often. And in no way am I "rich" as stated , but I'm an engineer and teach a couple nights a week , so spending a bit on myself for entertainment isn't an issue.
(and I love the Neverwinter setting , and looks like theres some friendly guilds here that I'd fit in with hopefully too )
OK, so from your feedback, here's what I'd suggest:
Currently, the cheapest rank 3 mount (fastest speed) is 988,625 ADs, which equates to about 1980 Zen, (or $19.80 US). That mount would only work for 1 character, and the cheapest R3 mount from the Zen store is 2500 Zen. At level 20, you should get a 15% off a mount coupon from your level-up box, which would bring that down to 2125 Zen. The key here is that Zen store mounts are account-wide unlocks, so you'd gain access to that mount on all your current or future characters. Even if you only plan on playing 2 characters, that would then work out to about 1063 Zen per character, which is an even better deal, (which only gets better the more characters you make).
A fast mount is a great convenience in PvE, but becomes more important in PvP, so that's another plus in favor of buying a R3 mount.
In terms of aesthetics, the Knight of the Feywild pack (the $60 one) has a R3 mount, access to an exclusive race, some ADs to spend, AND a fashion set that all your characters will gain access to. That set is pretty nice, and you can always dye it to give your characters a more distinctive look. Of course, you can simply buy fashion sets from the Zen store or off the auction house as well, (check out the Waterdhavian set from a past event - it's really nice IMO).
The 1-60 game is actually pretty short - you can get to max level in just a weekend of hard play. It's the post-60 game that takes the longest. The good news is that there is a lot to do at 60 - you start Tyranny of Dragons around level 30, then there's the Feywild and Dread Ring campaigns, and eventually Icewind Dale, then Rise of Tiamat in a few days.
I would suggest transferring in at least 500 Zen though, as you will get the first time buyer's pack with that, which has some decent stuff as well.
You can also look at it from a price breakdown:
R3 Mount - about $25
Level 30 companion - about $25 (though there are some on the in-game auction house for 385K ADs, which works out to only about 770 Zen) - that is a single companion for 1 character, though, whereas the companions from the packs are account-wide
Fashion set - The cheapest fashion set if 800 Zen, but there are many many sets on the in-game Ah for a lot less, (though those aren't exclusive and are single character purchases).
Exclusive race - the only equivalent is the Dragonborn race unlock, which is another 2500Zen.
Again, you have to break things down to what they are worth to you.
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Planning on having one alt , likely a GF or GWF so will get a couple starter packs out of it too plus some AD , and the companion on the warlock set seemed fun for the short time I got to play last night.
Looking forward to leveling both and getting to know folks in the community.
If you've got the cash to invest, Id get the Warlock Pack as well as the Feywild for the 110% mount that all of your characters can unlock/obtain at level 20.
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There's a fairly small backlog of Zen for AD on the exchange right now, and character slots are currently on sale. If you think you'll stick around for a while, get some extra character slots while they're cheap. If nothing else, you can get those characters up to level 10, and start building up the leadership profession on them - those tasks can earn you gold, potions/kits, and astral diamonds. They can also generate XP for that character, so you can eventually level them up to 60 just by running those profession tasks. They'll also be good for the 7-day invocation coffers, which can produce enchantments, refinement stones, preservation wards, or even coalescent wards.
Good luck, and most importantly, have fun!
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