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huerazorhuerazor Member Posts: 9 Arc User
edited November 2014 in The Thieves' Den
I have one TR PvE lvl 60, now I'll create one for PvP, now after the nerf, what build is best for him, Perma-Stealth, 1-Shot or other?
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  • letojarred1letojarred1 Member Posts: 306 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Just wait for mod5 and hold on to your ADs, They did last minute changes to CW before going live. I hope things won't go awry with the TR changes.
    StrawberryCheesecake TR
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  • demonmongerdemonmonger Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 3,350 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    I agree with the post from Letojarred1.
    Save your AD and don't even bother buying zen yet.
    It seems all we have been offered was a trojan horse to destroy our class.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I hate paying taxes! Why must I pay thousands of dollars in taxes when everything I buy is taxed anyways!
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Wait it out, and if possible come into the preview servers to test stuff out.

    And for the record, TRs are fine. Some setbacks in CoS, but it's mostly a QOL fix IMO. Things are still looking great -- but some people are just too worried about a certain things.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • huerazorhuerazor Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    When mod5 comes? I have only experience with TR lvl 60, but I don't play with him. That's why I have to create the new one, I want participate the Halloween event, and pick up at least a mask, what should I do?
  • kleejikleeji Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    Wait it out, and if possible come into the preview servers to test stuff out.

    And for the record, TRs are fine. Some setbacks in CoS, but it's mostly a QOL fix IMO. Things are still looking great -- but some people are just too worried about a certain things.

    People are worried for good reasons. I never saw you playing with any of the top level people nor against them, only saw you in random pugs, same for your videos, so for you things might be fine, but if the class stays as it is now its going to be completely useless in top level premades. Thats what the problem is, and all the top tier trs see it.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kleeji wrote: »
    People are worried for good reasons. I never saw you playing with any of the top level people nor against them, only saw you in random pugs, same for your videos, so for you things might be fine, but if the class stays as it is now its going to be completely useless in top level premades. Thats what the problem is, and all the top tier trs see it.

    Who do you think I fight with in IWD preview? Either all of those players I've sparred with -- won a few, lost a few -- that have the "top-end" PvP guild signs under their name are fakes, or the TRs are doing much better than what people just assume without even testing things out for themselves and listening to the Armageddon prophecy or something.

    And for the record, I've not seen any 'good reasons' so far. Perhaps if you're so confident as to your superiority over my assessment, why not come to IWD/preview and play with the rest of the crowd that gathers there everyday, and see for yourself? Friendly invite. No strings attached, no intention of forcing a fight or anything. Just watching how other TRs manage all sorts of situations opens up your eyes quite a bit.

    Just come down and enjoy yourself. :) Really. It's best to see things for yourself. That always helps best, instead of having to explain stuff and arguing in text.

    I'll say just this: none of the doom-and-gloom people are any regulars of the test server. If anything, most TR players who've already laid down their new builds and tactics are mostly hush-hush, not really willing to open up with just how capable the new TRs are. Those people usually stay quiet in the boards.

    The loudest doom prophets you see, are the ones that've never really tested anything out with anyone. I don't want to force you to believe me, but everything I say in these forums are the result of actual testings and experiences amongst BiS level PvP players in IWD.

    Those who would foresee the doom coming for TRs -- I've not even once seen them in preview server, and I'm there almost everyday.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • kleejikleeji Member Posts: 29 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    Have you faced new build hrs today? or dcs? No way to kill one, and i know I've been on preview a lot and fought a lot, killing you included :p. The gc and cos nerf are a death sentence.

    Keelei, Chocolate Shoppe
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    kleeji wrote: »
    Have you faced new build hrs today? or dcs? No way to kill one, and i know I've been on preview a lot and fought a lot, killing you included :p. The gc and cos nerf are a death sentence.

    Keelei, Chocolate Shoppe

    I hitted scruvy medic for five min with him Afk... back to full hp every 15 sec.
    New hr is stacking lifesteal over 2500 and it s impossible to kill with endless consumption proc.
    Go try kweassa. Let s say vs scurvy medic and deadshot. A gwf can still one shot you so no really need to test any ****s there.

    Just for the note...i hardly doubt the nerf to gloaming cut is less than 50 per cent... 15 he says... bah
  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    I hitted scruvy medic for five min with him Afk... back to full hp every 15 sec.
    New hr is stacking lifesteal over 2500 and it s impossible to kill with endless consumption proc.
    Go try kweassa. Let s say vs scurvy medic and deadshot. A gwf can still one shot you so no really need to test any ****s there.

    Just for the note...i hardly doubt the nerf to gloaming cut is less than 50 per cent... 15 he says... bah

    Then we have to spam them until they will fix it. They tried so many times to destroy TR as stealth in mod 3, duelist flurry in mod 4 but all was blocked. Same now spam until it will be that 15% nerf not more.
    Well if you are sure it works wrong because according to tool tip it's rather 15% less.
    Tairev-TR(All kind of killing tools)
    Asha-DC(Faithful-Anointed Champion)
    Vilgefortz-CW(Thaumaturge-balance)
  • huerazorhuerazor Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    huerazor wrote: »
    When mod5 comes? I have only experience with TR lvl 60, but I don't play with him. That's why I have to create the new one, I want participate the Halloween event, and pick up at least a mask, what should I do?

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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    18 november, i dont know why you should roll another one. The mask thing was an useless info or am i missing something?
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited November 2014
    rayrdan wrote: »
    I hitted scruvy medic for five min with him Afk... back to full hp every 15 sec.
    New hr is stacking lifesteal over 2500 and it s impossible to kill with endless consumption proc.
    Go try kweassa. Let s say vs scurvy medic and deadshot. A gwf can still one shot you so no really need to test any ****s there.

    Just for the note...i hardly doubt the nerf to gloaming cut is less than 50 per cent... 15 he says... bah

    I've seen plenty of Sabs take out Scurvy. I can't do it with a Ranged Sco I use, but MI Scos like nanner also has a pretty good chance against heal/tank clerics. Vex with his Impact Shot Sab also does it regularly.

    In turn, the 'web of predatory relationships' you don't see yet (because you aren't there too often. I've seen you with Vicious.. like what, maybe 3~4 times during the entire week?), is that DPS clerics eat heal/tank clerics alive, and then in turn us TRs eat the DPS clerics alive.

    Speaking about the HRs, any of the conventional HRs are now around 5:5 odds for my ranged WK/Sco build, while due to dangers of having to go close MIs have still have it tough. When fighting someone like Deadshot or Bunnyrabbit with the new high-power build, it usually comes down to whether the ranged TR manages it well enough to deny giving a chance to land Boar Charge or not.

    The CWs are also now around 5:5 for me, and Sabs also seem to have a good chance, although slightly falling in efficiency due to -- again -- being melee.

    ...and Keelai, was nice to see you, but I've seen you only once. Fight any other BiS guys lately? ;)
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
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