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mareatlanticummareatlanticum Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 202 Bounty Hunter
edited October 2014 in PvE Discussion
This haven't happened to me for a long time and I thought they had already fixed this, but today this isbelief was proven wrong by going with random que against one of the top PvP guild premade.

Why is there still even possibility for this? Any premade group will utterly crush any random party even without VoIP, even if the random party is all experienced players and have some gear advantage too. The premade party just has too much advantage in knowing how every member will behave, as they have had hours after hours to hone their tactics.

Even a possibility fo this is simply pre-coded pvp ranking drop and waste of time for the random players, so could this possibility please be removed. If there are no premade groups on que, full premade groups should not play. Else there is nothing but chance for exploit and it will push away from pvp even more random players, which the pvp community can't really afford when there is mostly same players coming again and again already.
Give us 4 or more power/item bar profiles so we can change powers and items with one click that are suited for the situation.
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  • lihin23nihillihin23nihil Member Posts: 229 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    This haven't happened to me for a long time and I thought they had already fixed this, but today this isbelief was proven wrong by going with random que against one of the top PvP guild premade.

    Usually, I see this when I am solo queuing but 2 people on my team are queueing as a partial group. Often this is 2 newer players who think they may be able to improve each other's experience by being together.

    I'll usually check my team for shared guild names or the tell-tale behaviour of two undergeared toons heading off to home base for pts at the start.

    It can probably still happen as you describe, of course, and however it arises it's frustrating for all concerned.

    Take the loss, try not to get upset and hope the next game will be better.
  • abecassisabecassis Member Posts: 255 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    If there are 15 people in que at any given moment. 5 of those are a full premade. Then there remain 10 people to fight these. How big of a chance you think there is those 10 people are in full BiS gear? yes, slim. So the matchmaking system picks out of what it can get.

    One stupid thing i have seen matchmaking do, is try to match the number of classes in each group. If you removed this from the equation and put something else, like gearscore, it would be much better and balanced.
    Dr. Phil
  • nazghul22nazghul22 Member Posts: 407 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    going with random que against one of the top PvP guild premade.

    For some reason we rarely see a post by a top pvp guild complaining about the situation.
    ToD = ..........
    Tired of Dailies/Tyranny of Dailies/Timers of Doom/Tricked Or Duped/Tremendously Obnoxious Dailies/Try Otherwise, Devs
  • mehguy138mehguy138 Member Posts: 1,803 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    For some reason we rarely see a post by a top pvp guild complaining about the situation.

    My friend told me once, that he did 5 PvP runs in a row in a 5 man premade, and 4 out of 5 games were against pure random parties.
    M6 almost drains your soul given how boring it is. (c) joocycuzzzzzz
  • dravylldravyll Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    The matchmaking is somewhat chaotic even w/o considering the class lineup. Matches which I've won tend to be w/teams having 2 magic users. Might still be down to the gear score tho. Just 1-2 days ago, someone asked me why am I doing PvP despite having 7K worth of gear score.
  • dravylldravyll Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    It's called culling the weak. The Forsworn must've hijacked Neverwinter.
  • dravylldravyll Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 21 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    For some reason we rarely see a post by a top pvp guild complaining about the situation.
    It's called culling the weak. The Forsworn must've hijacked Neverwinter.
  • notsheriffsrsnotsheriffsrs Banned Users Posts: 396 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    dravyll wrote: »
    It's called culling the weak. The Forsworn must've hijacked Neverwinter.

    This

    Either adapt or uninstall. This is war, this is the law of the jungle, only the strongest survive.
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    nazghul22 wrote: »
    For some reason we rarely see a post by a top pvp guild complaining about the situation.

    You kidding right? Top PVP guilds complain about being matched up with PUGs and LOSING ranking despite winning.

    You really think they want to get matched up PUGs now and have a 2 minute game then lose leaderboard ranking and have to afk for 10minutes for the next game?
  • notsheriffsrsnotsheriffsrs Banned Users Posts: 396 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    You kidding right? Top PVP guilds complain about being matched up with PUGs and LOSING ranking despite winning.

    You really think they want to get matched up PUGs now and have a 2 minute game then lose leaderboard ranking and have to afk for 10minutes for the next game?

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