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I don't think knight's valor should stack.

hoodster7hoodster7 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 22 Arc User
edited October 2014 in PvE Discussion
I just ran into this for the first time in pvp with my gwf. 2 gfs both running knights valor made it almost impossible to kill them. We basically lost the match because we had to keep killing both of them over and over to have a chance of killing the rest of their team. This is broken. Knight's valor should not be able to be up all the time and it most certainly should not stack either in pve or pvp.
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  • brave2005brave2005 Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I have a GF, and while I think stacking Knight's Valor is hilarious, I agree with you.

    If you have two GF's spec'd properly, and they stack Knight's Valor, their daily powers will pop every 8-10 seconds.
    That means you'll always have Supremacy of Steel active. And if you slot Steel Defense, you'll be invulnerable for 5 seconds every 10 seconds... Totally OP.
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  • orphynstarorphynstar Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    I have Knights Valor yet I rarely ever spec it. Is it really that much of a menace in PVP? Why not put that 200% dmg to use and target the GF before hitting the rest of the team?
    Mershed Perderders - GF - Guild: - Valor -
  • williep30williep30 Member Posts: 773 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    orphynstar wrote: »
    I have Knights Valor yet I rarely ever spec it. Is it really that much of a menace in PVP? Why not put that 200% dmg to use and target the GF before hitting the rest of the team?

    Yep. Stacking GFs is now the same as stacking CWs, GWFs, perma TRs, Pathfinder HRs.

    The smart people will assess the real problem here: class stacking in PvP. I don't like it from either end. Facing stacked parties to me dumbs down the game just as much as being in a stacked party.
    I hear "learn to play" all the time, but it seems to me that it should be defined as "my class is balanced, except when others beat it, then THAT class is OP"...
  • orphynstarorphynstar Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Didn't know as I have returned to the game to see what's new since beta, and have not encountered this as I barely started PvP again. But, I know the TR perma stealth is freaking annoying.

    Edit: lol I'm so **** now. I was totally thinking of Knights Challenge. Doh!
    Mershed Perderders - GF - Guild: - Valor -
  • notsheriffsrsnotsheriffsrs Banned Users Posts: 396 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    It SHOULD stack.

    Guardian Fighters are supposed to be tanks, why would a Tank's protection vanish just because another tank is here??

    The more the merrier !! :D
  • demonkyuubidemonkyuubi Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    i just dislike the lagfest from multiple guardians
  • tantivetyrelltantivetyrell Member Posts: 180 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Two Knights Valor is just damage mitigation socialism. It will spread out the teams damage over two characters, meaning it's exceedingly difficult to spike damage someone to death. The only solution you have is to use stun skills on the GF. This disables knights valor for about 8-9 seconds, robbing them of precious AP gain and damage mitigation. This is what I regularly do against reflect knights valor builds as a conqueror GF.
  • froszztfroszzt Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 284 Bounty Hunter
    edited October 2014
    Lol. Of course it's broken. GF has been broken/OP with CW since Mod 4 started. Will be Mod 5 before we see a change.

    Sad to say, but the devs simply don't care. Play it broken or don't play at all.

    Which is why I have done around 10 PvP games in the last month.

    End of the line folks.
  • xd108xxd108x Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Wait....Knight's Valour stacks? OK I agree that should NOT be possible and the devs should have thought of this or had some feedback from players as it another things that could be exploited and breaks the balance of the game :/
  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    Yes. KV should not stack, but the crying around it seems a bit excessive. You can remove it with a daze/stun/disable and pretty much every class has a form of CC. Some classes even have disables that bypass block (*cough* CW's choke and frost rays *cough*)

    There are still ways to counter Knight's Valor, use them.
  • magiquepursemagiquepurse Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    klangeddin wrote: »
    Some classes even have disables that bypass block (*cough* CW's choke and frost rays *cough*)

    Must be a few good weeks since you didn't PvP?
  • klangeddinklangeddin Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 882 Arc User
    edited October 2014
    magiquepurse wrote: »
    Must be a few good weeks since you didn't PvP?

    Yes, it's been a while I admit. Did they change it so that choke and frost ray no longer go through block? You can still do it the way the other classes do it then.
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