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I was wondering if anyone else has much experience with this feat?
Effectively it seems to reduce your DPS from thorned roots significantly. (note: not overall damage, potentionally)
It extends the control duration (which is awesome) but makes thorned roots much weaker.
Does anyone know if thorned roots can stack? For example if you apply a strong root in ranged mode, switch to melee and apply another strong root? Will you get two stacks of throned roots? I am too broke to respec to test, and dont have test client installed, yet.
Effectively it seems to reduce your DPS from thorned roots significantly. (note: not overall damage, potentionally)
It extends the control duration (which is awesome) but makes thorned roots much weaker.
Does anyone know if thorned roots can stack? For example if you apply a strong root in ranged mode, switch to melee and apply another strong root? Will you get two stacks of throned roots? I am too broke to respec to test, and dont have test client installed, yet.
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It does. Each application of Thorned Roots is separate, and deals its own damage. If you want to test just copy your character to the preview server. Respecs on preview are free of charge and you can do your tests there.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
So with that said do you feel it is worth taking this feat even though it will effectively lower DPS? The full damage over 2s is quite nice at the moment. (overall damage is the same)
Honestly, Ancient Roots is basically the only reason to take Trapper. Trapper is not for DPS races, it is for soloing and added control via Constrictive/Hindering. If you look at DPS both Archer and Combat are better.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
I logged on to the test shard to check it out and I did not find what you said to be true.
I used constricting arrow / hindering strike quickly and would only see one stack applied. To me it seems like thorned roots does NOT stack.
That's correct. It can easily be tested with dummies and ACT. If you activate a second Thorned Roots while the first one is active, it will simply overwrite the first one, as we can see below.
The initial Thorned Roots only got to tick three time before the second one took effect.
Conclusion, if you are using a fast rotation, Ancient Roots will lower your total damage. It's a tradeoff.
It was not like this on preview testing. Thanks for correcting me.
Born of Black Wind: SW Level 80
and I'm correcting your about dps: trapper is dps path actually and Ancient Roots is worst feat which only reduces dps and nothing more
second worst feat is Serpent's Bite if you stormwarden, because storm step action leads to better dps
Well, that's your opinion. I've tested both builds extensively in real combat situation, not just on dummies, and the drop in DPS is really not that significant. The CC provided by the extended roots result in better damage from RoA. In some situations, it will even increase your DPS (through RoA) if you're able to keep the mobs tightly packed.
And although it's not as good CC as some other classes, the added versatility is well worth a small drop in DPS. It not like I have shotage of that anyway.
I'm talking about solo target or player