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Wasn't CW Perma-Freeze fixed?

tripsofthrymrtripsofthrymr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,624 Community Moderator
edited September 2014 in PvE Discussion
Whenever my 18K HR (archer spec... no Fox's Cunning) goes 1v1 against a CW, I instantly turn into a solid block of ice until I'm dead.

Wasn't that supposed to have been addressed in a recent patch?

What can I do to have a fighting chance in that situation?
Caritas Guild Founder (Greycloak Alliance)

Sci-fi author: The Gods We Make, The Gods We Seek, and Ji-min
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  • wimpazoidwimpazoid Member Posts: 504 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    It's probably not perma freeze, but most CWs start off with icy rays which will root you (may look like freeze), and after the CW finishes his rotation, it's likely he will use ray of frost which will follow up with a freeze.
  • mnemosiusmnemosius Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    A CW may also alternate the freeze cooldown with Entangling force and/or Steal Time to stun you until you can be frozen... again.
  • crazymikeecrazymikee Member Posts: 694 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    piercing blades is op vs all so no worries
    Coach Mike - 19.1k PvP CW
    CRAZY MIKE - 14.6k PvE CW

    Backbone - 16.7k PvP HR
    [SIGPIC]http://i59.tinypic.com/s3hts7.png[/SIGPIC]
  • magiquepursemagiquepurse Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    So a good archer HR stands no chance against a good Oppressor CW?

    You NEED to be Combat. Archer is nothing but Ranged DPS support. Nobody plays it seriously in PvP though, because CW and even SW is better at it. You're expected to stay alive through an Icy Rays rotation and incoming Freeze/nuking, heal through it with Wild's Medicine, and go kick CW *** afterwards with your awesome RG set and piercing procs.

    At the moment, regardless of what some CWs QQ in the forums, BiS HR vs BiS CW is actually a very balanced match up. CW will probably lose without a daily, and HR will probably lose if they take too much Icy Rays rotations.

    Hint: cast at the right time, Marauders will "stealth" dodge you through Icy Rays root AND damage. Practice it and learn to do it.

    But first, respec Combat, if you want a chance in 1vs1.

    Also Freeze has been nerfed indeed. But after you are frozen, a CW will Entangle you probably and nuke you. By the time you recover, the 3 secs of immune to chill will have passed and you gonna be frozen again if you facetank all of it. Use Disruptive and Boar prone to keep CW on their <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> instead of nuking you.
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  • abecassisabecassis Member Posts: 255 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    Well seeing as you are not specced for PvP, you should not have a chance agaisnt a CW that is specced for PvP
    Dr. Phil
  • abecassisabecassis Member Posts: 255 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    At the moment, regardless of what some CWs QQ in the forums, BiS HR vs BiS CW is actually a very balanced match up. CW will probably lose without a daily, and HR will probably lose if they take too much Icy Rays rotations.

    I like you. But i have to disagree here. A BiS HR will allways kill a BiS CW. If he is skilled. The thing with HRs is that their skillcap is much higher then CWs. CWs are capped on proccs and freeze, they cant get better then that besides dodging disturptive shot and boar charge. But HRs can get much better than CWs. There are HRs who will absolutely annihilate any CW, dont believe me? Just send me a PM i will point you in the right direction.
    But against a medicore HR, a CW with a daily has a great chance of winning.
    Dr. Phil
  • magiquepursemagiquepurse Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    abecassis wrote: »
    I like you. But i have to disagree here. A BiS HR will allways kill a BiS CW. If he is skilled. The thing with HRs is that their skillcap is much higher then CWs. CWs are capped on proccs and freeze, they cant get better then that besides dodging disturptive shot and boar charge. But HRs can get much better than CWs. There are HRs who will absolutely annihilate any CW, dont believe me? Just send me a PM i will point you in the right direction.
    But against a medicore HR, a CW with a daily has a great chance of winning.

    I like you too :) You're welcome to come try the HR I am talking about, she's one of the best in the game. We duel in IWD for fun quite often. Drop by :) Sent you a PM.
  • tripsofthrymrtripsofthrymr Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,624 Community Moderator
    edited September 2014
    abecassis wrote: »
    Well seeing as you are not specced for PvP, you should not have a chance agaisnt a CW that is specced for PvP

    I don't want to keep switching to "the one true play style" until balance is changed again, only to switch to "the one NEW true play style". I enjoy the Archer path, and don't want to play Combat. I very much hope Cryptic will eventually make it viable for top-tier PvP. Even with the CW perma-freeze issue, I usually finish 1st or 2nd in the matches I end up in and enjoy abundant double and triple kills. Until Archer gains some survivability against the new perma-freeze rotation, I'll need to be more careful of CW's.
    Caritas Guild Founder (Greycloak Alliance)

    Sci-fi author: The Gods We Make, The Gods We Seek, and Ji-min
  • abecassisabecassis Member Posts: 255 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    I don't want to keep switching to "the one true play style" until balance is changed again, only to switch to "the one NEW true play style". I enjoy the Archer path, and don't want to play Combat. I very much hope Cryptic will eventually make it viable for top-tier PvP. Even with the CW perma-freeze issue, I usually finish 1st or 2nd in the matches I end up in and enjoy abundant double and triple kills. Until Archer gains some survivability against the new perma-freeze rotation, I'll need to be more careful of CW's.

    Well i hope the same as you. But the fact is that top PvPers switch their specc all the time because of the constant changes. Even tho some dont like it, it has to be changed to keep up with the others. I do ofc hope that we get more viable builds for top competition, but reviewing the past i doubt that will happen, and cryptic make quite the money on making us switch enchants, specc etc every mod. So i dont see that happening. The best thing you can do is keep up with everyone else if you wanna be competitive
    Dr. Phil
  • plaviaplavia Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    Wasn't that supposed to have been addressed in a recent patch?

    What can I do to have a fighting chance in that situation?

    it was fixed, now its freeze perma and not perma freeze

    there are many things you can do

    die

    die fast (you don't realy need 18K GS to die)

    don't play PVP
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  • plaviaplavia Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    edited September 2014
    There is already stat called control resist only reason you are frozen like that is that you prefer to upgrade your damage, ignore it and then whine on forums.

    he is right
    roll a halfling DC, they have the highest control resist, and you will really enjoy the PVP fights
  • rashylewizzrashylewizz Member Posts: 4,265 Bounty Hunter
    edited September 2014
    crazymikee wrote: »
    piercing blades is op vs all so no worries

    This^^^^^^^
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