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GWF and GF prones?
zvieris
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So uhm... GWF got his damage nerfed on the most crucial skills, got roar nerfed, got cooldown on threatening rush and lost his prones. While GF essentially was untouched? Why? I haven't played in over a year so Idk the hell happened here and why 
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Why ?
Simple :
GWF considered as overpowered
GF considered as underpowered.
I'm not contesting this fact.
Just answering.
- Destroyer spec'd trades kills for deaths
- Sentinel spec'd farms assists and stalemates his opponents if well geared
- Instigator spec'd just runs around like a headless chicken
Sounds fun. Whereas GF tanks and kills, and supports team like a baws now.
Sure, GWF was kind of OP before, but taking all the prones (xcept for dailies), roar's root and silence(?), reducing damage by a lot, putting cooldown on threatening rush is a bit extreme, imho
Now we are a decent pvp class who can in 1v1 fights, cw and hr might still be better but that's fair since we can bring stuff to the team now, have decent tankiness and dmg.
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About your Sentinel assessment.. I used to think so too until I met an IV Sentinel who made my 18K IV Destroyer ( full PVP build/gear ) feel like 6K scrub. Im not exaggerating either, his Restoring Strike hurt me more thru my 34% Deflect than my IBS ever hurt him.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
No!, Properly geared and skilled GWF zoom in un ccable, pressuring CWs, DCs, or anyone on the node changing targets easily and doing great damage whilst having the ability to escape with 30% DR and CC immunity while people wait to mount up!
The days of smashing keys and still winning are over! The GWF is a force if played with some common sense, if you want to run in and beat on 3-4 people like MoD 3? Well you better be tank specced! If not you'll be DPS specced but be much squishier, I would recommend getting started on your IWD campaign and getting your Purified Black Ice set asap!
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
Play a proper GWF. They are like a whirlwind of steel. You can now tell who are good GWFs and who were on the bandwagon in Mod 3.
Can I getta AMEN! lmao
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
A power named, specifically, TakeDown, which does not take down. Go figure. The community is still waiting from a constructive explanation by the devs. Hopefully the general, independent forums worldwide about MMOs will warn the prospective players to play another class. Or, if they like the class, to play another game.
I do find it sort of ironic however, that the same argument that some GF players used, is exactly where they are out, too much surviablity vs damage output.
Im not actually opposed to it, Im just saying, alot of you DID use that argument.
The GF does have much better Damage mitigation and rightly so! GWF can also get high mitigation if they so wish by simply speccing for it...
The GF however doesn't do as much DPS as the GWF, and we do not have the survivability of a GWF in considering you can Unstoppable for either defense / offense while immune to CC. Or you can Sprint and run away when ever you are in trouble immune to cc...
So the GF can last a little longer with people smashing him but as the GF is rezzing at the graveyard, the GWF will have run away and healed back to full and continued playing.
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
lol
Make me laugh more.
Exactly. GWF if specced for sentinel can forget about ever doing any damage or scoring a kill. Their only job is to stall time. As for GWF destroyer specced... Most of the time in pvp their damage isn't much higher as they need their stacks to reach their full dps potential. And that means they need to tank. At what destroyer gwf is awful. Thus we got perma-runner GWFs now. That just run for the cap like perma-stealth TRs. And they're much worse at that than TRs.
GWF now have different trees that function uniquely and, when played to their strengths, can be effective.
GF got a nice over-buff after a long time suffering so I aint mad about it. The next step for GF is to tone down the easy stuff, like turtle-blocking and powerful passives, and make the class require more activity like they did with the GWF.
Further changes are needed but Mod 4 was still definitely a step in the right direction and balance amongst Fighters is certainly better now than it was in Mod 3.
Enforce rainbow parties in PvP ---- 10v10 PvP ----
Exactly...
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
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~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!