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gurugeezer
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Hello and thanks for reading.
I've been exploring Neverwinter for just about a week now, trying out different classes, etc. While I know things can change, perhaps dramatically, when you reach higher levels and the end game, the two classes with which I've clicked are trickster rogue and hunter ranger. Their playstyle is fluid, dynamic and fun. I've experimented with nearly all the others, and they just aren't as involving.
Problem is, I've heard the HR isn't especially beloved by groups...and the TR, as a single-target-focused class, is worse. So, I'm wondering, if I go with the HR, should I expect to be shunned or will groups be accepting?
Perhaps more importantly, when I'm in a group (even if I end up relying on /legit or guild runs where folks are happy to have me), will I feel like I meaningfully contribute?
Finally, what general HR build type would be most compatible with group play? Should I try to squeeze everything I can out of AOE DPS? What can an HR do to ensure that they feel most relevant in group success (and prove groups wrong when they underestimate you)?
Looking forward to your feedback, input, suggestions, advice, etc.
Thanks so much,
Gurugeezer
I've been exploring Neverwinter for just about a week now, trying out different classes, etc. While I know things can change, perhaps dramatically, when you reach higher levels and the end game, the two classes with which I've clicked are trickster rogue and hunter ranger. Their playstyle is fluid, dynamic and fun. I've experimented with nearly all the others, and they just aren't as involving.
Problem is, I've heard the HR isn't especially beloved by groups...and the TR, as a single-target-focused class, is worse. So, I'm wondering, if I go with the HR, should I expect to be shunned or will groups be accepting?
Perhaps more importantly, when I'm in a group (even if I end up relying on /legit or guild runs where folks are happy to have me), will I feel like I meaningfully contribute?
Finally, what general HR build type would be most compatible with group play? Should I try to squeeze everything I can out of AOE DPS? What can an HR do to ensure that they feel most relevant in group success (and prove groups wrong when they underestimate you)?
Looking forward to your feedback, input, suggestions, advice, etc.
Thanks so much,
Gurugeezer
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- Gurugeezer
That really depends. Some PUGs (pick up groups) will boot you depending on class, others for low GS. I would stick with the /legit channel to find groups that are more worried about having fun than grinding dungeons for loot to sell on the AH
I'm almost always in the middle of the DPS charts, sometimes higher, sometimes lower (multiple CWs/GWFs). I slot Rain of Arrows and Hindering shot while the CW and GWF are slamming the big guys. I use Aimed Shot on the main boss and split shot on mobs (if I can do it without drawing too much aggro). A lot of people don't want an HR because they spam slit shot then run towards other members to drop aggro. If you draw aggro, use Forest Ghost, stand still and let someone else draw the aggro. Don't force aggro on another teammate. At the end, if I've helped burn the boss, rain down extra DPS on mobs or whatever then yes I've contributed to the party.
In the end, unless you're a CW or GWF, there will always be someone that complains about your lack of _____ or you're OP'ness in ______. Join a guild, find some friends, watch /legit channel. Always have fun and forget about those people that are just here to show how much better than you they are. Chances are, they aren't.
Gloom level 60 Control Wizard
Dusk level 60 Trickster Rogue
Dawn level 60 Devoted Cleric
Eclipse level 60 Hunter Ranger
Wrath level 60 Great Weapon Fighter
Jinx level 60 Scourge Warlock
Bueller? Bueller?
Yep, no reason.
Join Legit, have fun, win for all.
You dont have to be archer spec, you dont need to win paingiver, you can go trapper if you want =P .
The game keeps getting worse due to the MY class should compete at all times no matter what crowd. Too many worry about the X screen and not the complete the DD and have fun crowd.
HRs are viable, hrs can be fun, all sorts of class combinations are viable. Ive done 5 man hr groups, Ive done 5 man dc groups, Ive done 5 man gwf groups through most of the t2s ive done rainbow parties through almost every DD there is.
IS CW the best class? yes.. should a few things be adjusted? maybe.. Should more people join legit, stop worrying about GS/paingiver and the X screen? Definitely..
5 man DC ToS .. priceless..
There are more then one way to play this game, its pretty flexible, they designed it that way and I wish more people would understand and enjoy it.
This made me grin, beat ToS the other day with another HR, an SW and 2 GWFs. So much fun.
I've played HR since they came out, and yes, it can be a difficult task getting into any group at times even at my sort of GS (19k atm). But that's because there's some snobby snobs out there who think that all HRs are huntards and dislike them full stop. I've lost count how many times I've topped the DPS list and beat CWs and GWFs into the ground. HRs can make a very positive contribution to their team, especially when it comes to bosses. Full archery spec and WOW you're sorted. But you don't have to be just archery spec. It's all up to playstyle. So the next time someone attempts to boot you for being an HR, keep in mind you did nothing wrong, they're just being dumb.
It's consistently in the middle for paingiver, even with hyperaggressive CW/GWF in the group. It also does get autokicked from the PUG Queue on occasion, but it isn't nearly as often as it is as a TR. (Not that this will make you feel better when it happens.)
It's a sometimes frustrating sometimes amazing style of play but the upper performance envelope has something of a disconnect in the given content in my opinion. Regardless, you can do a lot of different things with the HR so at least from the boredom angle you can always be trying something different and be effective with HR. That's one thing I really love about it, and something Cryptic has slowly been expanding on for the class. Killing Nature was a huge step in the right direction to, ironically, making the HR more accepted in PvE teams.
Now they just need to rework all those powers that Nature was using for party buffs and make them do something value added as they have, in effect, been nerfed into super uselessness in virtually every situation without the Nature cap stone. (Not to say that they were effective at anything before, but they are even worse now. Go figure.)