Has anyone purchased these and with the Sharandar in particular does it unlock all boons immediately?
Thanks in advance for any clarification.
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ladymythosMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 637Bounty Hunter
edited August 2014
I want to know this too. And if we can use this to get the boons, why are they character bound? It would mean I'd have to pay 5.000 Zen pr character just to get to IceWind Dale. That's ridiculous. With five characters, that's 25.000 ZEN just to get the boons. There's no way I'll grind for two weeks pr character for the boons either, so Icewind Dale is off-limits for me. If we could get the boons in the zen-store and have the account bound, I'll be more than happy to buy them.
Frankly, I'm surprised they offered "Campaign Unlocks" at all. I suppose people that like to level up new alts all the time might find this convenient, though very expensive -- as well it should be to "auto-complete" such large chunks of content.
There's no way I'll grind for two weeks pr character for the boons either, so Icewind Dale is off-limits for me.
C'mon, you wouldn't kid a kidder, would you? Isn't the IWD requirement something like three boons on two toons? Doesn't seem like a very high bar, especially since Shar and DR have been available to play for quite some time now.
Personally I think it's a good option if not very overpriced. I couldn't bear the thought of doing Sharandar again with a new toon, 5 times was bad enough. But if they make it cheap, everyone would buy it (even with ZAX) and no one would ever play that content, except for bots of course.
Umm, 5000 zen is 2.5M AD - that's a healthy chunk of change for the vast majority of players.
And yeah, the IWD requirements were a bit of a pain, but that "two full weeks!" of daily grind is less than 30 min to do. I've done DR 6-7 times now, Sharandar 4 (and working on 5). If you're running 5 characters, either 1. they are primarily leadership alts, in which case, why does it really matter? 2. You *do* play them regularly, in which case, why wouldn't you want the boons?
Either way, if you want to skip past a big chunk of content and playtime, then yes, I think it should cost you for each and every character you want to have skip it.
Don't get me wrong - I hate the grind aspect to it as well, but I think it's been getting better since Sharandar. Good things sometimes have a price attached. That's life.
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ladymythosMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 637Bounty Hunter
edited August 2014
Sigh... I'm not talking about skipping content. I am not talking about not bothering with Sharendar and Dread Ring. What I AM talking about is making those two campaigns fun to play, and not make them feel like f'ing chores you have to do to get to the fun stuff. They should BE the fun stuff. Playing every day just to get those boons are not fun. That's a chore. And that's all I care to say on the subject. We already went over this countless times after the requirements for IWD were introduced the first time. I'm not going to bother go through all this all over again.
Sigh... I'm not talking about skipping content. I am not talking about not bothering with Sharendar and Dread Ring. What I AM talking about is making those two campaigns fun to play, and not make them feel like f'ing chores you have to do to get to the fun stuff. They should BE the fun stuff. Playing every day just to get those boons are not fun. That's a chore. And that's all I care to say on the subject. We already went over this countless times after the requirements for IWD were introduced the first time. I'm not going to bother go through all this all over again.
Then pay up or you know, actually play the game. I hate that the buy it option exists personally but whatever, I don't have to buy it and won't.
Then pay up or you know, actually play the game. I hate that the buy it option exists personally but whatever, I don't have to buy it and won't.
You kind of completely ignored his point. We play to enjoy ourselves. The campaigns, especially sharandar have been designed to forceably timegate you rather for you to enjoy playing and and hence it is repetitive and boring.
You kind of completely ignored his point. We play to enjoy ourselves. The campaigns, especially sharandar have been designed to forceably timegate you rather for you to enjoy playing and and hence it is repetitive and boring.
The grind is a core part of mmo's. There are almost always time gated dailies in every game I've touched for the past 10 ish years. They are part of the genre. It's like complaining you want a rock concert to turn down the volume.
The grind is a core part of mmo's. There are almost always time gated dailies in every game I've touched for the past 10 ish years. They are part of the genre. It's like complaining you want a rock concert to turn down the volume.
It's not grinding I was talking about. I've done CN many hundreds of times. It was still something I liked doing for a long long time. I've done sharandar and the rest 7 times and hated it as soon as it was released. Just because you have to work for you rewards, doesn't mean you have to have an unenjoyable time doing so. The vast majority don't like sharandar in particular. They focused more on how to make us not complete it in one day rather than making actually enjoyable.
I do not mind the campaign unlock being sold, however I do have some concerns and suggestions. I am not gonna suggest to make it retroactive.
1 Make a requirement to purchase the pack, that you must have completed the campaign on at least character for that zone in which you which to purchase.
2. These have the potential to open up zones to those illicit companies and allow them to spam us to buy ad and stuff where it did not exist before.
Even a novice player new to mmo can hit 60 in mere days and have no understanding of how to actually play. In this case it will hurt everyone. Having an option as a player who has ran a number of toons through these campaign, this can be a god send. I was totally dreading Sharander once again.
Adding this requirement would solve both these issues.
I am with Frishter on this one, I am sorry the only thing I enjoy about Sharander is the dungeon and Celedan (sp?) and even Celadan is just a fast 3 min run for me solo. When I was running my GWF through the campaign I just banked the daily dungeon key to use them all in Celadan, I never got around to running it, I may just give the keys to my warlock and let him run it over and over.
Don't get me wrong - I hate the grind aspect to it as well, but I think it's been getting better since Sharandar. Good things sometimes have a price attached. That's life.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!" pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all." looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
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ironzerg79Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,942Arc User
edited August 2014
To be fair, Sharandar was their first attempt at a daily quest hub and campaign, and the subsequent campaigns have gotten much, much better.
To be fair, Sharandar was their first attempt at a daily quest hub and campaign, and the subsequent campaigns have gotten much, much better.
A more cynical response was that relative improvement is easy if the initial bar is set low enough.
Admittedly I rather liked Dread Ring, but honestly something should have been done to reduce the grind for Sharandar (apart from a ZEN Shop item obviously).
To be fair, Sharandar was their first attempt at a daily quest hub and campaign, and the subsequent campaigns have gotten much, much better.
That is true. It also makes it worse when you do it on 8 toons. That and having just levelled my warlock to 60... I think nerfing some of the spark requirement costs would go a long way.
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C'mon, you wouldn't kid a kidder, would you? Isn't the IWD requirement something like three boons on two toons? Doesn't seem like a very high bar, especially since Shar and DR have been available to play for quite some time now.
And yeah, the IWD requirements were a bit of a pain, but that "two full weeks!" of daily grind is less than 30 min to do. I've done DR 6-7 times now, Sharandar 4 (and working on 5). If you're running 5 characters, either 1. they are primarily leadership alts, in which case, why does it really matter? 2. You *do* play them regularly, in which case, why wouldn't you want the boons?
Either way, if you want to skip past a big chunk of content and playtime, then yes, I think it should cost you for each and every character you want to have skip it.
Don't get me wrong - I hate the grind aspect to it as well, but I think it's been getting better since Sharandar. Good things sometimes have a price attached. That's life.
You kind of completely ignored his point. We play to enjoy ourselves. The campaigns, especially sharandar have been designed to forceably timegate you rather for you to enjoy playing and and hence it is repetitive and boring.
The grind is a core part of mmo's. There are almost always time gated dailies in every game I've touched for the past 10 ish years. They are part of the genre. It's like complaining you want a rock concert to turn down the volume.
It's not grinding I was talking about. I've done CN many hundreds of times. It was still something I liked doing for a long long time. I've done sharandar and the rest 7 times and hated it as soon as it was released. Just because you have to work for you rewards, doesn't mean you have to have an unenjoyable time doing so. The vast majority don't like sharandar in particular. They focused more on how to make us not complete it in one day rather than making actually enjoyable.
1 Make a requirement to purchase the pack, that you must have completed the campaign on at least character for that zone in which you which to purchase.
2. These have the potential to open up zones to those illicit companies and allow them to spam us to buy ad and stuff where it did not exist before.
Even a novice player new to mmo can hit 60 in mere days and have no understanding of how to actually play. In this case it will hurt everyone. Having an option as a player who has ran a number of toons through these campaign, this can be a god send. I was totally dreading Sharander once again.
Adding this requirement would solve both these issues.
I am with Frishter on this one, I am sorry the only thing I enjoy about Sharander is the dungeon and Celedan (sp?) and even Celadan is just a fast 3 min run for me solo. When I was running my GWF through the campaign I just banked the daily dungeon key to use them all in Celadan, I never got around to running it, I may just give the keys to my warlock and let him run it over and over.
LOL! Minsc and Boo avatar! Nice!
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
A more cynical response was that relative improvement is easy if the initial bar is set low enough.
Admittedly I rather liked Dread Ring, but honestly something should have been done to reduce the grind for Sharandar (apart from a ZEN Shop item obviously).
That is true. It also makes it worse when you do it on 8 toons. That and having just levelled my warlock to 60... I think nerfing some of the spark requirement costs would go a long way.
RIP having a life.