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user4035
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Not sure where to post suggestions to the game but other game forums use the bug report section so I'll do the same here since i didn't see a suggestion forum.
The experience gain is way to fast in neverwinter. I try to do the quests and I'm just leveling so quick I outpace the storyline.
Throw in a daily pvp, skirmish, and praying to the gods and you level so fast you just skip tons of content.
So my suggestion:
Praying: no experience gain at all. Not even sure why you xp gain for this anyway.
pvp and skirmish: reduce it to 30% of what it gives now.
Storyline: slight reduction by about 10%.
I also notice that you guy buy zen stuff and spend astral diamonds on gear for low level but you spend such little time as a low level that it really is pointless to spend on this stuff.
Edit: or at least implement a checkbox or slider in the options to turn off/reduce xp gain from pvp, skirmish, praying.
The experience gain is way to fast in neverwinter. I try to do the quests and I'm just leveling so quick I outpace the storyline.
Throw in a daily pvp, skirmish, and praying to the gods and you level so fast you just skip tons of content.
So my suggestion:
Praying: no experience gain at all. Not even sure why you xp gain for this anyway.
pvp and skirmish: reduce it to 30% of what it gives now.
Storyline: slight reduction by about 10%.
I also notice that you guy buy zen stuff and spend astral diamonds on gear for low level but you spend such little time as a low level that it really is pointless to spend on this stuff.
Edit: or at least implement a checkbox or slider in the options to turn off/reduce xp gain from pvp, skirmish, praying.
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I agree that the leveling is too fast on your first character, and maybe on your second. But after that.. you've seen it all.. And you just want to play a new character amongst your friends, who are all fully leveled.
So maybe no disabling of XP, but a setting you can choose.. slow/medium/fast.
But people will then argue that new guys will set to fast and then not know how to play their class when they hit 60.. and that is true, too.
It's a difficult scene.
Edit- maybe an ANTI-Azure Enchantment.. reduces XP gain?
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As for low level toons having super enchants. Just cap enchants per level rating of equpiment.
Level 20 items can have level 4 enchants.
Level 30 can have level5 enchants
etc...
iguess my main gripe is with the prayers and pvp/skirmish. Some days I log in and want to go questing. Other times I just feel like doing an ours worth of pvp or skirmishes. But if I do that all of a sudden I've skipped the graveyard and helms levels.
I remember world of warcraft had that. High level enchant couldn't be put on a low level item.
Tinking out a low level is fine, and can be fun. But there doesn't have to be some kind of limit on it. I mean, a level 19 with level 10 enchants and a vorpal is way overpowered.
Also option to disable exp gain will be nice too.
That said, more options are always nice. Neverwinter does an amazing job telling you how the game world works and spreads the information out throughout your leveling experience. So I never was left feeling confused about how to proceed. This is something I cannot say about even World of Warcraft, let alone any other MMO I've played.
I do know Pathfinder has a slow/medium/fast leveling system set up where the experience values needed to level in each selection are different. Since Pathfinder is strongly based on D&D 3.5 I think its safe to say something similar is probably in 4th edition.
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There just is not enough meat (content) on the bones (NW game) to make leveling any slower without resorting to some kind of dailies =repeating quests over and over again to grind XP).
For later alts, yeah...I skip several zones, or do only the first few quests in some of them....been there...seen it...done it. For me, the fun starts at 60.
Those disappeared when I grew up and now have to go to work, deal with my kids and keep my wife happy. When it comes to gaming, I just want to take my pants off, crack open a beer and have fun
I agree that getting to level 60 is WAY too fast in this game. It is actually almost ridiculous. Being able to no-life (with sleep) for 2-3 days to reach max level is silly.
What you suggested would not work 100% without some modifications being made. Invocation XP is not really that relevant for a hard-core gamer. Even without invocation, anyone who can spend 8 hours a day on the game can reach level 60 within a week easily.
Reducing the quest XP is probably the best way to do it, since that is where the bulk of XP occurs (based on time spent per XP). But that might also involve developing additional quests, including some that are more time-consuming - many quests can be completed in a matter of minutes and still provide a lot of XP (for limited efforts).
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
LOL! I am with you there - similar life here.
myles08807 said, "Back in my day, we didn't have any of this fancy Mulhorand gear while we were leveling . . . we walked uphill both ways while dying once every five seconds while leveling, and we liked it fine!" . . . Now, get off my lawn, you kids!"
pointsman said, "I don't rue the game. In fact I don't feel any regret for the game at all."
looomis said, "I don't like people changing to alts and then bragging about their mains like schizophrenic role players."
But, I'm not holding my breath. That would require Cryptic to design new quests, potentially a lot of them. And if they did, they should be different from the existing quests (more race quests, even deity quests + just quests that are not "kill/retrieve XYZ"). And that would be moving a lot of resources from releasing new content.
- Invoking - did not invoke at all until level 60
- leadership - only chose options that did not grant actual xp (ie lots of making guys)
- skirmishes - skipped every single one
- Dungeons - did each dungeon once, except for Dread vault (haven't done yet)
- Foundries - none
- PVP - none
- storyline - did every single mission with the least amount of effort. I did not kill anything that I absolutely did not have to do.
I hit level 60 in the last section of Hotenow. That left me a entire zone that I had outleveled and that was with skipping a huge amount of stuff.
I'd say the problem is that you're doing the dungeons. I skip them if I'm not power-leveling. They're almost an entire level by themselves, iirc. The game gives you a little breathing room for levels (I find some zones I'm 1/2 a level behind, esp. after Tower District), but not enough to really enjoy dungeon runs.
Foundry's also a huge XP source, anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4 of a level. Skirmishes, invoking, leadership, PvP are not too much, I usually get those in when leveling slowly.
You're still able to do the last zone at 60.
I have a wife and kid too, thing is, while it took longer, it was more rewarding. But nothing said you couldn't get there at whatever pace you wanted.
Yes i would go that far as well. For many reasons.
When i started over a year back, i was thinkin like "ok, so 60 is max so ill c some slowdown at 40 and at 50 lvl ill start to hate the grind and lairs/dungeons runs"... Before i was able to even recal that thought, i hit 60. Thats why all the seals, kind of unique and whatever items are useless. Thats why foundry quests are eighter farm or exploit or nothing.
There is plenty of things to do and to have fun yet, with every alt char i made i had to watch my lvl just because i did not want to miss a skirmish/dungeon run opportunity.
Having it optional (block XP flag), twill lead to trolling/harassing and no mmo should allow it ever. Having it as it is now... i felt nothing when i hit 60 lvl. At least some kind of reincarnation (with its bonuses) and re-run the quest-line/s at some insane difficulty with heavily reduced xp gain...nvm
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