if this is how encounters work in mod 4 my god its going to be brutal to gear up or do anything classes like DC and GF have no hope of getting the drops at all
you are making your own game unfun by haveing the drop rates be so so low for these encounter
i get there should be a grind curve but this is to much.
people play games to relax and enjoy aspects of it not to sit in an area all day farming and running between dwarf valley and caer-koning just to hope for a beholder pop.
sure i get that the sets are not best in slot for some classes but that doesnt mean the value of haveing them isnt there
i currently have more black ice than i know what to do with because tymora deemed every neverwinterian unworthy to get their mainhand and gloves
why would i use my black ice to make parts of a set i can never get the bonus for, and im not the only one with these problems. i truly hope you notice all this feedback because there are numerous threads about this.
now is the time to up the drop rate make the encounters spawn like every 10 mins or heck just make the item available in the vendor with the rest.
please and i hope the community agrees please fix this unfun aspect of the game.
At least it seems that you can /lfg for the HEs and switch instances immediately, which would be a great + in comparison to IWD, but overall this sucks plain and simple. Thank god you only have to grind for the two armor pieces in Rothe Valley and Whispering Caverns (rest can also be acquired through the new dungeons/skirmish), but on top of the BI gear, which I haven't completed on most chars, it's a pain.
I would love to hear from an official source what the downside of a token based system would be, also for the IWD HEs.
The Rothe valley and Whispering caverns HE's are going to be hellish , the quality of potential drops means you can bet that not only players will spawn camp them 24/7 but bots will probably be parked there if it is possible to program them to wait for a specific spawn , the quality of the drops and them all being BoE makes that a certainty .
I just want my Main hand so I can leave IWD and never return!!!! There are so many other things I want to do, but I sit in Dwarven Valley farming Heroics.... Ponderous!
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adernathMember, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 0Arc User
edited July 2014
Strange... I got my first weapon at the 4th beholder and I did it just for fun afterwards and a 2nd weapon dropped at the 6th beholder. Perhaps you had just bad luck?
Suggestions to improve NW:
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
Strange... I got my first weapon at the 4th beholder and I did it just for fun afterwards and a 2nd weapon dropped at the 6th beholder. Perhaps you had just bad luck?
That's the beauty of RNG. Some players get theirs asap while others wait for months (literally). A token based system would take the randomness away.
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lathendrilMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 16Arc User
edited July 2014
/agreed to OP
I am still lacking the gloves too, after hundreds of HE. I love this game, really. As is love D&D and the forgotten realms. I have read every realms novel there and i am really passionate about the setting and thus the game. BUT i am on the verge of loosing my nerve to continue to play it.
All the new and seemingly greedy politics of BoA or BoP, the lowering of rates to drop worthy items (so that we maybe buy them faster), the hopelessness some of us face while doing more and more HE without a great success and so without a proper reward. MAny are really tired of this exceptionell grinding.
So please please please dear devs, find a solution for it, or you will push the many veterean players away.
I have done more than 150+ Epic and Major encounters on two of my characters, got great success about 80% the time, but got purple drops perhaps about 5 times, two of which is non black ice gears for another class that's BOP... I am still grinding IWD nonstop, still yet to see a main hand or bracers drop for my DC and CW. This is just getting beyond frustrating by the day, especially when many other people got it without even trying, like the player in the #5 post in this thread. Please, make this a fair game and give us some hope with grinding.
I have done more than 150+ Epic and Major encounters on two of my characters, got great success about 80% the time, but got purple drops perhaps about 5 times, two of which is non black ice gears for another class that's BOP... I am still grinding IWD nonstop, still yet to see a main hand or bracers drop for my DC and CW. This is just getting beyond frustrating by the day, especially when many other people got it without even trying, like the player in the #5 post in this thread. Please, make this a fair game and give us some hope with grinding.
most players that got their drops got them before the first patch when IWD came out, now many moons later it's near impossible to get these to drop.
most players that got their drops got them before the first patch when IWD came out, now many moons later it's near impossible to get these to drop.
Very true. Pre-patch Mod 3 at least dropped useful stuff. Now, you have to be like Job - full of patience. I really hope that after Mod 4 comes out, the Devs have time to take a breather and revisit the main/gloves drop rate. It all began with the "fix" to the video lag issues on larger HEs.
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dheffernanMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 216Arc User
edited July 2014
So today while my TR was doing IWD dailies, I had the opportunity to do the Bear Rider Roundup with a CW. We very nearly duoed it; the boss was too much to handle and we needed help. The result for me was an epic drop....
...the Elk Tribe Orb.
Which is BoP.
This, frankly, made me mad enough to club a baby seal with a sackful of kittens. It's not enough that you have to be lucky enough to catch a good HE, and lucky enough for it not to be so swarmed that no one can score enough to qualify for an epic reward, and lucky enough to actually get the epic reward. The epic reward table is full of garbage you can't use, sell or even give to one of your alts. This is just a cruel joke.
Oh, and minutes later I got a peridot for a levelup reward. Where's that sack....
@Venture-1@Venture from City of Heroes if you remember that far back. Yes, *that* Venture. Yes, I probably trashed your MA arc. For me it was Tuesday.
most players that got their drops got them before the first patch when IWD came out, now many moons later it's near impossible to get these to drop.
I really want my black ice gear... just like I want my miracle healer and high viser when both of my toons hit level 60. It took me less than two weeks' fun dungeon runs to get the T2 sets. In the process, I learned to master my classes better. HEs on the other hand, do not require much skills or collaboration between players. It's just brutally zerg things down and adds the terribly low rng of getting a gear on top of a horrible spawn rate.... So when doing HEs, I learn nothing and gain almost nothing too... I'm not asking to restore the drop rate to before patching but at least give us some hope of ever getting the drop... over 150 epic and major HEs with a considerable amount of great success and not a single glove or main hand....
Seals or add crafting basic Black Ice MH and arms to the Black Ice Profession. Buy them or make them with whatever the HEs drop, be it seals or a profession resource. Done.
PSA: You don't need to grind Spinward Rise for your Elemental artifact main hand if you have some AD lying around. You can craft it via the Tyranny of Dragon's campaign screen.
this needs to be addressed something must have went wrong when you decreased the drop rates of these items with no guarenteed way to get these equipments other than months and months of time if your lucky and with mod 4 coming less and less players will be in IWD and considering that the new gear set is more pve focused where as the BI gear is a bit more pvp forcused is there any chance with the upcoming module we could get some feedback on this or maybe a boost to something
or can we at least get these items to be BOE so players who have spent months trying to get them and still havent could possibly buy them off the AH or other players
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At least it seems that you can /lfg for the HEs and switch instances immediately, which would be a great + in comparison to IWD, but overall this sucks plain and simple. Thank god you only have to grind for the two armor pieces in Rothe Valley and Whispering Caverns (rest can also be acquired through the new dungeons/skirmish), but on top of the BI gear, which I haven't completed on most chars, it's a pain.
I would love to hear from an official source what the downside of a token based system would be, also for the IWD HEs.
Overpowered 60 CW ~ Thaumaturge 14.5k
==========================================
~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
- Dualspec
- Better rewarding foundry and foundry pvp maps
- Custom PvP leagues with leaderboards instead of the current 'matchmaking'.
- Armory
- make jumping cost stamina (to reduce hopping in pvp)
That's the beauty of RNG. Some players get theirs asap while others wait for months (literally). A token based system would take the randomness away.
I am still lacking the gloves too, after hundreds of HE. I love this game, really. As is love D&D and the forgotten realms. I have read every realms novel there and i am really passionate about the setting and thus the game. BUT i am on the verge of loosing my nerve to continue to play it.
All the new and seemingly greedy politics of BoA or BoP, the lowering of rates to drop worthy items (so that we maybe buy them faster), the hopelessness some of us face while doing more and more HE without a great success and so without a proper reward. MAny are really tired of this exceptionell grinding.
So please please please dear devs, find a solution for it, or you will push the many veterean players away.
most players that got their drops got them before the first patch when IWD came out, now many moons later it's near impossible to get these to drop.
Very true. Pre-patch Mod 3 at least dropped useful stuff. Now, you have to be like Job - full of patience. I really hope that after Mod 4 comes out, the Devs have time to take a breather and revisit the main/gloves drop rate. It all began with the "fix" to the video lag issues on larger HEs.
...the Elk Tribe Orb.
Which is BoP.
This, frankly, made me mad enough to club a baby seal with a sackful of kittens. It's not enough that you have to be lucky enough to catch a good HE, and lucky enough for it not to be so swarmed that no one can score enough to qualify for an epic reward, and lucky enough to actually get the epic reward. The epic reward table is full of garbage you can't use, sell or even give to one of your alts. This is just a cruel joke.
Oh, and minutes later I got a peridot for a levelup reward. Where's that sack....
I really want my black ice gear... just like I want my miracle healer and high viser when both of my toons hit level 60. It took me less than two weeks' fun dungeon runs to get the T2 sets. In the process, I learned to master my classes better. HEs on the other hand, do not require much skills or collaboration between players. It's just brutally zerg things down and adds the terribly low rng of getting a gear on top of a horrible spawn rate.... So when doing HEs, I learn nothing and gain almost nothing too... I'm not asking to restore the drop rate to before patching but at least give us some hope of ever getting the drop... over 150 epic and major HEs with a considerable amount of great success and not a single glove or main hand....
or can we at least get these items to be BOE so players who have spent months trying to get them and still havent could possibly buy them off the AH or other players