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ledrog
Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
I just wanted to ask if there is any logical explanation to the way the matchmaking for 5vs.5 PvP currently works.
I for one, dont see any sence behind it atm whatsoever. What is the point on having a 5-men premade vs. 4-men premade + 1 pug, when that pug is pretty much guaranteed to have round about as good gear as a bot?
I was duo and 3-men queueing most of the day whith my guildmates, where everybody is somewhere between 15 and 18k GS. In every single match i did we got players with GS reaching from 12k down to 6k GS (!!!!) (also called a one-shot).
I dunno how other ppl feel about this, but i am really tired of the system as it is atm, either your opponents have so low ranking that you loose ranking by winning matches, or you loose the match against an equally strong team because 2 of your random teammates dont have the gear nor the experience to do anything against your opponents.
I would really like to see something like a average gear-score on matchmaking and also leaderboard influece ( since fully geared pve players usually dont stand a chance against fully geared pvp players).
Im pretty sure also the more casual pvpers would appreciate not to be constantly thrown into matches against BIS pvpers.
Please leave a comment,
regards
Led
I for one, dont see any sence behind it atm whatsoever. What is the point on having a 5-men premade vs. 4-men premade + 1 pug, when that pug is pretty much guaranteed to have round about as good gear as a bot?
I was duo and 3-men queueing most of the day whith my guildmates, where everybody is somewhere between 15 and 18k GS. In every single match i did we got players with GS reaching from 12k down to 6k GS (!!!!) (also called a one-shot).
I dunno how other ppl feel about this, but i am really tired of the system as it is atm, either your opponents have so low ranking that you loose ranking by winning matches, or you loose the match against an equally strong team because 2 of your random teammates dont have the gear nor the experience to do anything against your opponents.
I would really like to see something like a average gear-score on matchmaking and also leaderboard influece ( since fully geared pve players usually dont stand a chance against fully geared pvp players).
Im pretty sure also the more casual pvpers would appreciate not to be constantly thrown into matches against BIS pvpers.
Please leave a comment,
regards
Led
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The whole leaderboard should be reset and fixed.
And on a side note, Luskans walking around in Pirate outfits more than 2 weeks ago...diligently run Luskan GG and have 20 wins....
And yet some Luskans have had their GG stuff all done for a couple weeks somehow...people you never even see in GG...
Join Essence of Aggression: PVP-ing Hard Since Beta!
Put in a manual, instance-based PvP queue. So when you press K, you see a list of possible Domination matches, you pick a team that appeals to you in composition and join in. When the instance is filled, the match starts. It should tell you the class makeups and gearscores of each team so that class stacking is passively discouraged ~ since if you queue with 5 GWF nobody would be interested to queue against you!
Right now the queue somewhat ELO-based, somewhat randomly puts 5 and 5 men together which is messy. On a manual queue, PM vs PM would be much easier, and pug matches would have a choice NOT to be matched against a premade-looking team. Queue times will be entirely under the players' control.
Draft:
Rivenscar Ruins #2A - GWF, GWF, GF, DC, TR Full
Rivenscar Ruins #2B - HR, TR, CW (join team)
Hotenow Domination #4A - GWF, TR (join team)
Hotenow Domination #4B - DC, DC, CW, GF, GWF Full
Rivenscar Ruins #12A - GWF, GWF, GWF, GWF, GWF Full
Rivenscar Ruins #12B - queue empty (join team)
If you support this idea or believe it can be improved upon, feel free to discuss it further. Maybe we can pitch it on the preview forums in time for Mod4, but only when this has been well-thought out and unanimously agreed on.
Yea something like this would be awsome, just hope we can make enough noise for this so it gets some attention and maybe put on live someday.
@bookedonacid
I couln't care less about leaderboard scores as long as the matchmaking isn't affected by them. I'd rather have a good pvp match than a good position on a broken leaderboard.
Some of the pvp guilds have many players queue up at certain times and being coordinated and well geared they usually win. Other times it's delzoun that usually win.
On topic the mods usually say it's just due to make better waiting times so that the matchup is laxed. Of course that makes sense to a degree, but they use it as an excuses for the most horrible matchups ever that should just never happen. It irrates me when they usually it as an excuses since it's somewhat intended but thinks that extreme mismatches should be excused as WAI. It's clearly not a well designed system, but it does somewhat provide better matches than without any system whatsoever. It could be vastly improved though as some matches just should never of happened.
It is hard to stay calm, when you die 3v1 on 2 or the enemies home node and you have to see, that your team, the whole team, tries to cap the homebase against one HR/ TR, while the other node is red and uncontested.
Do all the decent players go premade, so you have to PUG with ppl who wont contest a node for their dear live or did they abandon this joke of matchmaking and left?
WHY do I get 6-12k or PVE PUGs five times in a row, while my enemy team has multiple guys popping legendary artefact? If there are not enough players for ELO stop premade queing, so the teams are equaly geared and you dont have to play with a bunch of noobs against PVP-teams.
Sorry for this, but I am really angry right now, bc I had not ONE decent match queing solo in the last 3 days. 90% it is me and maybe another unlucky guy with ppl who die in one rotation and stay on base or home node against premades or semipremades or matches, where I can kill 3 of the enemy team alone.
Either this gets fixed somehow or PVP will go the way of the Dodo, it will die out.
I guess that once they got the wins they switch to luskan to get rest of the pvp points
* I am loskan for lot of time now and lately we see stronger ppl in luskan. not 50/50 % but we do manage to do some killings and in rare events even win
If it cant work, delete it. Trace has right. Signed
AFK/leaver penalty doesn't work. Get rid of it.
PVP was better a year ago