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Did they ninja buff Impact Shot or what? Lashing as well

pandora1xpandora1x Member Posts: 725 Arc User
edited June 2014 in The Thieves' Den
My impacts are hitting 7-9K's on Crit compared to the miserable 3K I used to hit with.

And my Lashing Is hitting close to 20K with a regular vorpal... which is very good considering it only hit for 9-11K before.

Anyone else? Maybe we'll have a come back of the 1 shot rogue... or close to it O.O. I've been having fun 1-shotting squishies with lashing XD
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I can still one shot undergeared people with my Perfect Vorpal using plain Lashing Blade. I feel a pang of guilt every time for doing it.
  • darlenadarlena Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I hope so... the only perma I would have liked to play was INT Rogues build but I think that was a year ago? I don't believe they have the killing power they used to, and CS with 50% less charges severely lowers it's damage.
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    pandora1x wrote: »
    My impacts are hitting 7-9K's on Crit compared to the miserable 3K I used to hit with.

    And my Lashing Is hitting close to 20K with a regular vorpal... which is very good considering it only hit for 9-11K before.

    Anyone else? Maybe we'll have a come back of the 1 shot rogue... or close to it O.O. I've been having fun 1-shotting squishies with lashing XD

    I don't think so.

    The thing is, in my case I've never felt the would-be-exaggerated effects of the so-called "nerf to IS", since even after the 33% increment damage reduction, I always could hit for at least 6~8k on crit.

    But then again I don't ever spam IS, and I only use at most two shots at at time to maximize my damage per attack.

    (..that, and having always been a WK my IS was always buffed through either Dagger Threat, Advantageous Position, or Whirlwind Sneak Attack ... and some times all of those 15% buffs at the same time (+45% !!))
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • pindaoppindaop Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    I don't think so.

    The thing is, in my case I've never felt the would-be-exaggerated effects of the so-called "nerf to IS", since even after the 33% increment damage reduction, I always could hit for at least 6~7k on crit.

    awww thats cute 6,7 crit
    and yeah it was only nerfed with crit severity,tencity and 33% to every strike
    this is "so called " nerf to u lolololololol
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kweassa wrote: »

    I've never felt the would-be-exaggerated effects of the so-called "nerf to IS"

    i rest my case
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    pindaop wrote: »
    awww thats cute 6,7 crit
    and yeah it was only nerfed with crit severity,tencity and 33% to every strike
    this is "so called " nerf to u lolololololol

    ● Tenacity and crit resistance effects all attack powers from all classes as combatants in all games, so its a global issue. I hit with maybe 10~15% lesser damage, so does the other guy. 0 difference in relative damage comparison with any other guy.

    ● The only real "nerf" is with either the freeshot from stealth or when it is thrown consecutively from out of stealth where charges are spent. The first-shot from out of stealth hits almost the same, as well as the shot that receives the most buffs possible for TRs in game.


    If we're going to QQ about not being able to lob an interrupt encounter from range, four times in a row, and hit for over 15~25k damage easily, then we're no better than GWFs arguing they need all their OP tools.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    f2pma wrote: »
    i rest my case

    What 'case'? Your headcase?
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    The only real "nerf" is with either the freeshot from stealth or when it is thrown consecutively from out of stealth where charges are spent. The first-shot from out of stealth hits almost the same, as well as the shot that receives the most buffs possible for TRs in game.

    It is kind of a misinformation that the tooltip reads "deals additional damage for each charge remaining" when what really happened was it "deals lower damage as the charge are depleted." Point being, it was a sugarcoated nerf.
  • crusherbeastcrusherbeast Member Posts: 426 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    All about it speaks that no one is using it. Neither in pvp or pve, players on high lvl do not use it cause this skill has no use.
    Oh i mention myself using it. In CN to kick out down those thayan mages nearby entrance to shadowfell :D
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  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Oh i mention myself using it. In CN to kick out down those thayan mages nearby entrance to shadowfell :D

    I couldn't make that work. I tried. A CW finally took pity on me and repelled the whole lot. Lol xD
  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I do use it actually with my WK rogue. but only the shot from stealth and the first shot outside of stealth, that still hits somewhat good.
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    reiwulf wrote: »
    I do use it actually with my WK rogue. but only the shot from stealth and the first shot outside of stealth, that still hits somewhat good.

    Geez;; what happened to you?? You look terrible! :D
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • reiwulfreiwulf Member Posts: 2,687 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    You mean my avatar/sig? I think the stubble suits me well, I'm just a bit more grumpy now XD
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  • pandora1xpandora1x Member Posts: 725 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    reiwulf wrote: »
    You mean my avatar/sig? I think the stubble suits me well, I'm just a bit more grumpy now XD

    Nooooooo :(

    Petition to bring back the happy and joyful reiwulf - SIGNED
  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    It didn't get a ninja buff. Power affects it more since mod 3 but that is all. They really over nerfed it with the combo of reduced damage, plus tenacity and making the stealth shot do baby damage. Not the worst thing I guess (every rogue was using it) but I miss it in pve.
    "we all love this game and want it to thrive"
  • rustlordrustlord Member Posts: 1,454 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    reiwulf wrote: »
    You mean my avatar/sig? I think the stubble suits me well, I'm just a bit more grumpy now XD
    pandora1x wrote: »
    Nooooooo :(

    Petition to bring back the happy and joyful reiwulf - SIGNED

    Stick with grumpy. Girls dig it.
  • f2pmaf2pma Member Posts: 665 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    ● . I hit with maybe 10~15% lesser damage,

    all charges combined dont hit more then 10 k and u cant chain them that was nerfed long time ago plus cc resist no real stun at all.
    i have yet to see pbile tr use it.
    I REST MY CASE AGAIN
  • quitegonejinquitegonejin Member Posts: 3
    edited June 2014
    Nope, and how much is your 2nd, 3rd IS doing? What is your power, gs? weapon inchant. Give full info unless you want a tirade of "nerf TR's" to start up again. Tread softly my friend.
  • pindaoppindaop Member Posts: 117 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    kweassa wrote: »
    ● Tenacity and crit resistance effects all attack powers from all classes as combatants in all games, so its a global issue. I hit with maybe 10~15% lesser damage, so does the other guy. 0 difference in relative damage comparison with any other guy.

    ● The only real "nerf" is with either the freeshot from stealth or when it is thrown consecutively from out of stealth where charges are spent. The first-shot from out of stealth hits almost the same, as well as the shot that receives the most buffs possible for TRs in game.


    If we're going to QQ about not being able to lob an interrupt encounter from range, four times in a row, and hit for over 15~25k damage easily, then we're no better than GWFs arguing they need all their OP tools.


    u CRIT 6.7 k with first charge.with wk feats lolol
    and then do what when 40k hp gwf nothice he has a scratch.
    I REST MY CASE ALSO
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