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New Players, STOP buying marks from AH
doriangreigh
Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 707 Arc User
Not that any new players maybe reading this, but any new players that do get on these forums, STOP using the auction to buy marks of potency. Blue and Purple marks can be purchased from the wonderous bizzare vendor CHEAPER than gougers on the AH. All you are doing is throwing away extra AD and making other people richer. If you see blue marks for well under 25k in the AH then sure buy it, but if you see people selling it for 24 - 30k each DON'T buy them off the AH go to the wonderous bizarre vendor and buy there.
The same goes for purple marks, if you see them for well under 100k then pick one up but if you see them being sold for 99,000 - 100,000 or more DO NOT buy them stop making other people rich in this game which is what is causing some of the overly inflated prices in this game, too many people with too much AD.
Please be sure to check around in the game ot make sure an in game vendor isn't selling the same items for less than greedy people selling on the AH. Some of these people are getting these items free off of bosses or even out of lock boxes and are making not only pure profit but excess profit because these items sell for a fixed rate else where in the game.
The same goes for purple marks, if you see them for well under 100k then pick one up but if you see them being sold for 99,000 - 100,000 or more DO NOT buy them stop making other people rich in this game which is what is causing some of the overly inflated prices in this game, too many people with too much AD.
Please be sure to check around in the game ot make sure an in game vendor isn't selling the same items for less than greedy people selling on the AH. Some of these people are getting these items free off of bosses or even out of lock boxes and are making not only pure profit but excess profit because these items sell for a fixed rate else where in the game.
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Well intentioned advice, but given that 24K on the AH is less than the 25K you have to pay on the Wondrous Bazaar, it seems odd to encourage new players (or indeed any player) NOT to buy them off the AH at that price....
You are banned from the guild.
Sincerely,
Keeska
PS. Im just kidding. I really dont know how people manage to buy overpriced marks on the AH.
I'm not discouraging people from buying from the AH i'm discouraging people from fattening the wallets of people who want to do what you say sell for like 1 AD less. I personally sell many things from dungeons on the AH but never marks. If someone is getting a mark from a dungeon or the like (free mind you, less the time spent running said dungeon) then I don't think they should be selling it a price equal to or greater than can be bought from a vendor, it should follow that natural flow of selling it LESS than it can be bought from a vendor, by less I man more than a few AD less preferable 10% cheaper or more. I'm not against making some unrefined AD just not exploiting others for it. If I see an actual good deal (the point of the AH is to allow people with bad RNG a chance to get items not make millions from suckers, god forbid ethical values come into play) i'll buy the item, but if some person is selling a mark for 1 ad less, even 1000 less i'm not buying that i'll just pick it up off the in game vendor. If you read more forums you'll see that the company is struggling with too many people with AD who hoard and people that buy things that can be bought in game from a vendor is actually contributing to the problem.
BoE items is enough of a free for all and subject to the so called supply and demand of people in this game that refining marks shouldn't be another way for other people to get rich off of suckers because they don't know any better.
Anything that can be found for free and bought from a vendor for x amount and someone is selling it higher than a vendor price but didn't pay anything out of pocket themselves for it is little more than a used car salesman/con man bilking people who don't know better.
All I want is to make it abundantly clear that there are alternative methods for getting marks and the AH is NOT always the best place to find something .... its great when its flooded with people selling them for 20k and less (I picked up a bunch pre MOD3 when they were selling for 12k on AH) but to see people selling and even worse people buying them for more than the vendor is just wrong and bothersome.
And if some in this game have 50 million AD and don't now what to spend it on, can't find a use for it, then either give it away, or buy a bunch of chicken eggs. The rest of us who don't spend day in and day out farming or trying to exploit leadership on a dozen characters to net a ton of AD, prices on everything need to start having a cap. For instance an AH item can't sell something for the same price as an item already sold in game via vendor. Or make that recommend price that shows up by default the fixed price it can sell at.
Or better yet make a cap value of items, people who want theirs to sell then need to level up their AH skill to be able to get varied ranges in prices lol.
Why couldn't you ban me before I paid out all the CN runs to everyone, I had like 3 million AD a few days ago lol I could have been banned with severance pay
I see your point and all but, I see it as more of a natural selection kind of thing. Its way easier in almost every possible way to get marks from the wondrous bazaar.
If you fall for it, you're as dumb as those people who list AH items for 99 million ADs.
Why? You can get marks from lockboxes. What's the problem with selling them if you don't need them?
Enorla, Oh so devoted cleric.
Who the hell buys them from the WB only to sell them on the AH? There's a 10% fee, they'll still lose money. However I agree with not buying them unless they're a decent amount under the WB price. However if I needed a blue mark and it was listed for 24k, I'd buy it. Though I'm stocked up from when they were 13k :P.
But I don't see any reason to restrict sale prices. That masks rather than fixes the problems.
The obvious problem is players don't even know about the WB.
-Add useful and appropriately priced items for low levels.
-More various (non zen purchased) quest reasons to go to the store at various levels
The less obvious issue is the fact that those marks got my seal of approval before release because I figured like most other items for sale in the shop that drop during normal gameplay that the WB fee would be the price cap. For instance if you were playing back in Closed Beta you may remember threads complaining about the price of the enchants in the Bazaar. They were very expensive and players cried bloody murder because rank 3's were priced at something ridiculous like 10K AD or something. However as we all know the drops are plentiful enough that it would never have reached that price so it acted as a price cap in case the market was depleted or something.
When Marks were added to the WB I assumed it was the same situation. We cried too expensive and while I was inclined to agree I figured the drops would be reasonable. They are not.
I don't do dungeons as much as I used to but I have never seen a greater mark drop and I can probably count all the times I have seen a normal [blue] mark drop on my fingers and toes. Also, while I did give a disclaimer I don't do delves as much as I used to I have done at least one to two hundred since M2.
If Cryptic intended for the price of the marks in the WB to be the max price then at this point it should be brutally obvious the drop rates are completely off. On top of that my other bone to pick is with those horrid marks of gratitude which costs more than all but one item from an epic chest. Let's kill two birds with one stone:
-Make epic chests from leadership have a chance to give a greater in addition to normal marks
-Make rare chests from leadership have a chance to give a normal mark instead of a lesser mark
Sorry, little ranty but as I said this is something which strikes my nerves. Despite that I still feel worrying about what players can and can't do is the wrong angle to take. The fact they are selling items more than the WB fee is screaming that other problems in the equation exist.
That is actually a very good win-win idea.
Acts as an AD sink for Cryptic and stops less informed players from being taken advantage of.
Well, that's a good idea that would make those over-expensive marks of gratitude (it requires 15 refugees to make, thus over 3000AD each, and you need 3 for a purple chest) a bit more rational... I never made one, and I just used the few that dropped somewhere (during an event?) once or twice in a year, despite having 4 characters with 20 leadership...