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Black Ice gear post IWD

doriangreighdoriangreigh Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 707 Arc User
edited June 2014 in PvE Discussion
Does anyone know or have an inside track as to whether or not this gear is useful outside of IWD? My understanding is that its the happy blend of PVP and PVE gear so i'm not switching pieces so much. However the constant ice feeding is starting to feel like like a burden although at this time i've yet to need to refill the gear.

It appears that the enchants disappear after their time has run as it seems the enchants cannot be recharged? So we will be constantly in need of making new ones??

I guess if its ice it is going to melt away at some point but I always thought that this was magical ice which we all know magical ice can stay around forever. I'd so be happy with an increase of black ice needed to craft enchants if they were permanent and not consumable.

I believe i've been told and tool tips have suggested that some gear is only good in IWD, think this was in regards to accessories like rings and such. Is this true? So there are nice rings with additional powers that won't give out additional powers anywhere other than IWD? Since the rings additional powers sound a lot like the additional powers from black ice set bonuses i'm concerned that the gear i've been working very hard to obtain might not serve the purposes or be as good as I thought it would be outside of the IWD environment.
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  • calvin1tagcalvin1tag Member Posts: 322 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I don't think so - and likely in August when Module 4 comes out it will be even less worth while I'd think
  • reshomiiiireshomiiii Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild Users Posts: 25
    edited June 2014
    why bother when in a cpl months mod 4 is coming out most likly with new gear to grind >.>
  • hamletswordshamletswords Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,320 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    I guess if its ice it is going to melt away at some point but I always thought that this was magical ice which we all know magical ice can stay around forever. I'd so be happy with an increase of black ice needed to craft enchants if they were permanent and not consumable.

    They only degrade during combat, so you can keep them in your inventory forever.

    It's probably going to be the best gear until like September when you can get whatever new gear they have coming out after you finish THAT mod's month worth of grinding lol...

    Then again it still may be pretty good. I think it depends on how often the set bonuses proc and how good they are. I don't think many people have been able to test them if any with full sets.
    My Harem: Dawn HR, Erin CW, Piper TR, Zoe GWF
  • gphxgphxgphxgphx Member Posts: 184 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    I will probably never bother with the Black Ice gear. Getting gear and enchants which need to be fed is like getting a car which frequently needs to go to the repair shop. It's broken.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    gphxgphx wrote: »
    I will probably never bother with the Black Ice gear. Getting gear and enchants which need to be fed is like getting a car which frequently needs to go to the repair shop. It's broken.

    i wouldnt call a ferrari who need a lot of fuel broken.
    however this equip is a pve equip (tons of stat) with tenacity so for some classes it will be bis for pvp (it also has 2 more slots). this happened cuz of open pvp and i really dont think mod 4 or even 5 will have something similar.
    so for those classes BI gears will remain bis.
    Cryptic isnt releasing gears that much powerfull every time to prevent powercreeping thanks god
  • slushlikewindslushlikewind Member Posts: 272 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    It will be good for PVP depending on class.

    Until the ICD of the set bonus are revealed, it is hard to say if they will be truly viable.

    For now, a 2 black ice gear/ 2 PVP gear set up seems to be decent for some.
  • aulduronaulduron Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,351 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The only thing it's good for is queuing Kessels Retreat. It's nowhere near BiS, at least for my CW and GWF. It's just something you have to farm in order to farm something else.

    I hope they don't do this with the next module.
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    higher stats, 2 extra slot worth a rank 10 in mean for cheap and they are not Bis??
    ONLY TRs shouldnt use that set and maybe pvp GWFs
  • atarcanatarcan Member Posts: 34
    edited June 2014
    Armor is not the only BI Set around. For me, CW Black Ice weapon set stats is way more useful then my Ancient court set. T3 corrupt MH and OH is also better for my PVE loadout.
  • drinnthdrinnth Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    The Tier 3 stats will generally give you more bang for you buck, but the 4 piece set bonuses do not seem to compete very well against most of the Tier 2 4 piece set bonuses used by most classes in PvE. With Tenacity as an add bonus on each piece above the itemization limit, they may have more GS than the top tier current PvP sets, but again the 4 Piece set bonus may be lackluster compared to the other PvP item set bonuses.

    The only real benefit is to have a set that can compete in both PvE and PvP without gear swapping as long as you don't mind the new set bonus. Keeping the set at tier 3 spends about 300 black ice per piece per tier level. As long as you don't let it degrade to tier 1, it should be easy to keep it up, even when using all 6 empowerable pieces. Dailys rewards about 800-1k black ice, except on monday when you can get closer to 2k when doing Biggrin's and the PvP weekly.
  • query523query523 Member Posts: 1,515 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    For the Gf it looks like a keeper. Not sure if it is BiS for HR. Have not looked at any other classes yet but my feeling is that it can't compete with AoW...
  • drinnthdrinnth Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    Avatar of War, High Vizier, and High Prophet?(DCs would know better than I but I think this is the one they tend to use) set bonuses seem to out weigh the new 4 piece BI set bonuses, at least for PvE. I know some forum HRs have stated that the HR tier 2 4 piece set bonus is still a keeper as well. Any TRs able to comment on their set?

    Although the Overload slots in the head and bracers could make up for the set bonus loss, many still feel the tier 2 set bonuses are too good to give up.

    Most likely the chromatic dragon armor we will be farming in Mod 4 will be a replacement for black ice, but we must wait and see.

    Makes me wonder how many different sets there will be? Red/Blue/Green/Black/White, with the main bad guy being Tiamat, we will likely get rainbow armor sets. The amounts of double rainbows we will be seeing may be too much for us. Get ready to grind dragon scales til you puke.
  • hamletswordshamletswords Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1,320 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2014
    One thing to note is that because of the overload slots, it's like these armor sets have 3 set bonuses.

    On the other hand, the 2-piece bonus is absolutely awful for HR at least, so you're giving up a chunk of stats using BI gear even though overall you'll have more stats.
    My Harem: Dawn HR, Erin CW, Piper TR, Zoe GWF
  • silverquicksilverquick Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2014
    atarcan wrote: »
    Armor is not the only BI Set around. For me, CW Black Ice weapon set stats is way more useful then my Ancient court set. T3 corrupt MH and OH is also better for my PVE loadout.

    Yeah the CW Orb and Neck are some top gear and likely to still be used unless you've got the Formorian or Dragon.

    I do not know about the Armor at this point, I've never gotten a full set even on Preview to know how well it will perform. That said, just the 2/2 set I'm working with has been pretty impressive.

    I tended to use Champion over High Viz anyway as I ended up In a lot of multi-wizard groups so its useless there as only one will get the benefits or do all the debuffing.

    I don't like the look of the Black Ice set, but if it keeps me alive in the next module then I'll likely keep it around for that.
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