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I just finished my dailies in IWD with my CW within 25 minutes. Not a single potion used.
Before that I did the same with my GF. needed lots of pots, and double the time. Lots of avoiding red.
Before my GF I did it in my GWF, also ~25 minutes. No potions. Not even stepping aside out of the red.
So I came here to tell you my view. PvE player.
I can not be bothered to PvP since this tenacity balancing.
As there are 6 dailies you would expect that some are easier for one class, harder for the other. Not here. All very easy for the GWF, CW.
Mediocre for HR, TR.
Rather - not hard, but time consuming - for DC. Funny, also needs lot of pots and kiting. Healer??? Not on herself, for whatever stupid reason. Probably some PvP issue that hit the PvE players as ususally.
Very, very lengthy for GF. Many pots, much frustration with totems ninjaed from me.
All toons are 14-15.5k GS, T2 armor, a +450 weapon set, R7 enchants mostly. Stone of Allure.
If only anyone with something to say would recognize that the GF has been destroyed and nerfed to death. Makes me sad, especially since he was the only toon I invested a lot of money in, before the Bulwark nerf. That did show me where it is good to invest money, and where not. Lesson learned.
Before that I did the same with my GF. needed lots of pots, and double the time. Lots of avoiding red.
Before my GF I did it in my GWF, also ~25 minutes. No potions. Not even stepping aside out of the red.
So I came here to tell you my view. PvE player.
I can not be bothered to PvP since this tenacity balancing.
As there are 6 dailies you would expect that some are easier for one class, harder for the other. Not here. All very easy for the GWF, CW.
Mediocre for HR, TR.
Rather - not hard, but time consuming - for DC. Funny, also needs lot of pots and kiting. Healer??? Not on herself, for whatever stupid reason. Probably some PvP issue that hit the PvE players as ususally.
Very, very lengthy for GF. Many pots, much frustration with totems ninjaed from me.
All toons are 14-15.5k GS, T2 armor, a +450 weapon set, R7 enchants mostly. Stone of Allure.
If only anyone with something to say would recognize that the GF has been destroyed and nerfed to death. Makes me sad, especially since he was the only toon I invested a lot of money in, before the Bulwark nerf. That did show me where it is good to invest money, and where not. Lesson learned.
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Your fresh GF will be next to destroyed in IWD PVE. That being said once you really get a feel of how it performs, tweak your ability setup and get some good GS you will have minor issues with the new zone. My 14.5 Conq GF just started IWD and I can solo HEs, kill cc immune/hard hitting mobs in 1.5 rotation + a few at-wills. Its not as easy as with my 16.3 GWF but if you like the GF enough to play it you can certainly enjoy IWD too.
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Not an insult. I just noticed that I am half way through IWD campaign and I go days barely sucking pots down at all now. I did do some rethinking. Can you believe I only had 1 point in Fighter's Recovery? Based on the use I get out of it now I laugh at myself! I shored that up pretty quickly with my bonus points.
The giants are actually easier, especially if you switch to single target skills (kneebreaker and anvil work well) before hand. For the most part, those skills work well in many of the encounters, just not the wolves as there's no way to actually stand and fight them.
Dwarven Valley is for the most part easier. The biggest issue is that the mobs will constantly surround you if you don't keep moving. Fighter's Recovery is a must here. FLS and LS using your mark as you can to get more damage and take out the weak stuff first. One or two strong opponents are easier to deal with than a pack of weak ones.
My impression of the ease that different classes have pretty much mirrors the OP. However my GF and HR aren't so well geared as my others (15k GS roughly) The HR had trouble before I respecced from ranged to melee. Now she's fairly quick and straightforward. DC takes some time and occasionally has to use pots. CW runs through the mobs like they were nothing, only issue is shard bugging and even that isn't such a big deal. GWF pulls multiple groups of mobs and kills them all, often ending up at full health.
It's a good thing I like the play-style of this character more.
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By long I mean, "take a minute" or some such. Not hideously long, I mean just not instant.
Also, as a GF I highly recommend you do not religiously use 1 armor set. Rearrange yourself based on need. If you keep your bags organized it is fast and easy.
Oh, ok, thx for the info
I do not want to "teach" anything to anyone, I just am not entitled to.
But try to focus on the gameplay, any game has this: you can tank beautifully, ok, but if you cannot kill your opponent (and GF is structured to have LOTS at one time), you're just draining your block, in a "losing stalemate".
That's why, even as a GF, you need to focus on power and dealing damage, in addition to the abilities to soak/diminish the damage taken, and prolong block meter as much as possible.
So it's not the game telling you to play your toon in a "wrong" way: the thing that is wrong is the sheer difficulty to play it well (and balance stats to make you competitive) in comparison to all other classes.
Gotta love semantics, make a bad thing seem good.
I also think the transition from blocking to not blocking (or visa versa) should be quicker and smoother.
Lastly, I think that what the attacks do, while you are blocking, should be based upon what at-will powers you have slotted. Heck, maybe even allow use of encounters while blocking...
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Same thing here buddy, my first char, the GF is using 3-4 times more pots and potions, than my way lower gs GWF,. The GF recieves during his dailies again 3-4 times less potions from drops, but must consume since the broken class skills and the mostly PVP focused healers (who don't heal at all) much more. I'm always in need of gold for him, whereas my GWF has nearly 400 potions and 150 gold in reserve.
Yeah, shield is pretty useless, it is there to have something in the left hand, we can't run or dodge and our skills don't provide 360 degree defense, like the GWF for example has.
I still love him, but if i wanna have fun, i grab the GWF, sad to say, but it's true.
I'm a bit angry too, 'cause i also invested a lot into him and can't really profit from it, like the PVP Profund gear, i tested it out for some time, no better than my combo High General/Grand Regent/Ancient Knight gear.
And third i hate to beg someone for help, like in the Biggrin's Tomb quest, my GF is sleeping in or dies 'till i finish the quest. Sadly no fun!
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I can one shot groups of Troll Runts and Dread Servitors with Frontline. However, my Frontline maybe takes away 25% health of the softest enemy in IWD. Then you get the Polar Bears and Ice Giants that are tougher than even a Fomorian Warlord in Sharandar.
I can and do solo IWD, but it is time-consuming and I probably need 5 - 6 pots throughout my Icewind Pass and Dwarven Valley run.
You have 300 more GS than me. I have 9200 power, 1600 crit, 2200 arpen, 2300 rec, normal Plaguefire and I cannot kill a single Yeti in 1.5 rotations plus a few at-wills. I have to swing away at that bugger for probably 3 full rotations plus many at-wills. Bear Tribe HE? Sure, I can solo it, but it takes me a while.
Are you trying Knight's Challenge? That awesome damage boost really clobbers even elite mobs when combo'ed with reckless attacker and fighter's recovery keeping you alive. I usually kill things in 2 rotations, myself.