In the top 200 player the first GF that shows up is on page 8, the second is on page 10! So in the top 200 players there are only 2 GFS?
I think this speaks volumes about what you did to the GF class and you should be ashamed!
Every class is in the top 200 in abundance only 2 GFs..........................
Shieldbash60 GF ~ Iron Vanguard19.0k Overpowered60 CW~ Thaumaturge14.5k ==========================================
~ GF Buffs were great we are much better, please fix the bugs now... Thank you!
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zhaofuoMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 129Bounty Hunter
edited May 2014
Originally Posted by panderus View Post
[*]Guardian Fighters in PvP - I don't believe they are "nearly useless in PvP" at all. They can be VERY hard to kill and can hold a point for LONG periods of time by themselves.
Yet the dev's themselves are saying that we are not really or nearly useless(he did say "nearly" which means, we still count as a body in pvp. so in their book that is not useless LOL)
It does speak volume. if there is anything that the leader boards can tell us is.
GF has a very low population or they are useless and can't compete to the other classes (GWF/TR/HR). which? i'm pretty sure you can answer it for your self.
^^^
One day i counted how many Gfs were in leaderboard lol.I reached untill 53 page to get 50 Gfs.Multiply 53 x20 players of each page.
result:
In the first 1060 top players of NW they were just 50Gfs.That is below 5%.
This is the situation of the Gf now.Useless.
To say it again:THE PERCENTAGE OF GFs IN THE FIRST 1060 TOP PLAYER BASE IS 5%.
^^^
Dedicated to the clueless GF community who says the following:
"We are OP in PVP"
"My level 32 GF is a monster in PVP,you whinners have no clue"
"Devs buff us but not too much cause we are already buffed in PVP.It is not fair to other classes"
"We are fine in pvp"
"With the right build we can killl anyone!"
The GF population is small, because it is the worst class for PVE.
But it's not the only reason when you look at the leaderboard, GF is not really effcient for PVP domination.
GF mobility sucks, and your ability to survive is absolutely not great when you see some defensive GWF build, HR defensive build and TR perma, who are all true dps/striker.
So logically you are at the end of the train with a GF exactely like the CW and the DC.
You can see a bit moore CW and DC just because they are usefull for PVE with a better population.
But the tuth is all the striker class are absolutely OP for domination, not for the dammage, but only for quickness, stealth and survivability.
It makes me think that i won't pick any future class tagged as controler leader or defender for PVP, because with the domination system i can see they will sucks like others and for a new defender class i can start to laugh immediately considering the actual pve content.
Defensive-Tanky striker build are just a pain in the A_S for everyone in this game.
Conclusion is simple :
GF need a total rework because the pve design doesn't fit his mechanism and they won't change the game, too much work.
or
Nerf all the tanky-regeneration-defensive build for striker class and maybe the GF will become usefull at least for domination.
pve for me as a gf I don't find all that problematic(high protection builds suffer this problem though). However the fact that classes that are hr, tr, gwf having the high hp and regen builds yet still keeping their dmg much higher than ours leaves a very large gap.
^^^
One day i counted how many Gfs were in leaderboard lol.I reached untill 53 page to get 50 Gfs.Multiply 53 x20 players of each page.
result:
In the first 1060 top players of NW they were just 50Gfs.That is below 5%.
This is the situation of the Gf now.Useless.
To say it again:THE PERCENTAGE OF GFs IN THE FIRST 1060 TOP PLAYER BASE IS 5%.
^^^
Dedicated to the clueless GF community who says the following:
"We are OP in PVP"
"My level 32 GF is a monster in PVP,you whinners have no clue"
"Devs buff us but not too much cause we are already buffed in PVP.It is not fair to other classes"
"We are fine in pvp"
"With the right build we can killl anyone!"
etc etc....
Hyper, thank you for taking the time to research the statistics. Without that time and effort the community would NOT know how truly bad the GF community is.
HAMSTER, level 60 GF, "Bloodthirsty" since Mod 2 Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
Hyper, thank you for taking the time to research the statistics. Without that time and effort the community would NOT know how truly bad the GF community is.
^^^
Thx HAMSTER but that can't change the fact that,they are Gfs around that sing the same song all over again and again:
"Devs ,buff us but not too much we are fine in pvp".I see that no matter what we say and we do ,a small number of GFs,all is hopeless.
Honestly I am starting losing courage.I see the different treatment GF and GWF have from devs.GWF with bugged DG runs rampant for 4 months,then they fix the feat and also buff Destro damage by a 40%.GWFs cry at preview forum so they increase Destroyers Purpose by another 20%.
Gfs countless threads no response.After months a dev show up to say that our problem is that we don't get enough healing while we have shield up....
Then i fought some pvp specced destros in pug matches.Roar me while i was in Villain's Menace mod.Stunned and then proned and then dead.
Went in one vs one against them ,block their prones for 3-4 times ,i get one IBS hit,minus 28k hp.No balance at all.Me in rank8s he in rank7s.Where is the class balance?Where is the skill?
Then i fought the new paragon of HR in dom matches.The enemy team had an EoA HR.I had a backpack on me the entire game.As i was going on elementary's school excursion.WTF is this?
GF "buffs" ,if indeed will be buffs ,are not in sight ,at least after 4-5 months of Mod 4 release.We are talking about december or early 2015.At that time none GF will be around any more.At least the new Gfs will get some benefit(?).
^^^^
Situation is dramatic.Yesterday i went to the heroic Karru in DD.Passed every loot out of boredom.None takes me in epic lol.:eek:
Give us CC immunity while using Villians Menance, not interuptable during the animation. That could help
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fuldryMember, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users, Neverwinter Knight of the Feywild UsersPosts: 20
edited May 2014
A lot of work is needed.
We get owned, no defense possible, by 3 classes. Permastealths with permadodge, 100% encounters & Dailies wasted for more than 50 sec. HR, king of mobility, you cannot block, if you do you get rooted, then warp back to starting point for a few seconds, bym you're dead. GWF just kills us in 2 shots since last "nerf".
Great job. GF while still better than CW in pvp is useless in 1 v 1.
We can handle some DCs, and some CWs. That's it.
For a "tank", seeing permastealths and GWFs with more hps than us strikes me as totally weird too.
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Yet the dev's themselves are saying that we are not really or nearly useless(he did say "nearly" which means, we still count as a body in pvp. so in their book that is not useless LOL)
It does speak volume. if there is anything that the leader boards can tell us is.
GF has a very low population or they are useless and can't compete to the other classes (GWF/TR/HR). which? i'm pretty sure you can answer it for your self.
One day i counted how many Gfs were in leaderboard lol.I reached untill 53 page to get 50 Gfs.Multiply 53 x20 players of each page.
result:
In the first 1060 top players of NW they were just 50Gfs.That is below 5%.
This is the situation of the Gf now.Useless.
To say it again:THE PERCENTAGE OF GFs IN THE FIRST 1060 TOP PLAYER BASE IS 5%.
^^^
Dedicated to the clueless GF community who says the following:
"We are OP in PVP"
"My level 32 GF is a monster in PVP,you whinners have no clue"
"Devs buff us but not too much cause we are already buffed in PVP.It is not fair to other classes"
"We are fine in pvp"
"With the right build we can killl anyone!"
etc etc....
But it's not the only reason when you look at the leaderboard, GF is not really effcient for PVP domination.
GF mobility sucks, and your ability to survive is absolutely not great when you see some defensive GWF build, HR defensive build and TR perma, who are all true dps/striker.
So logically you are at the end of the train with a GF exactely like the CW and the DC.
You can see a bit moore CW and DC just because they are usefull for PVE with a better population.
But the tuth is all the striker class are absolutely OP for domination, not for the dammage, but only for quickness, stealth and survivability.
It makes me think that i won't pick any future class tagged as controler leader or defender for PVP, because with the domination system i can see they will sucks like others and for a new defender class i can start to laugh immediately considering the actual pve content.
Defensive-Tanky striker build are just a pain in the A_S for everyone in this game.
Conclusion is simple :
GF need a total rework because the pve design doesn't fit his mechanism and they won't change the game, too much work.
or
Nerf all the tanky-regeneration-defensive build for striker class and maybe the GF will become usefull at least for domination.
I'm glad with my vote.
Hyper, thank you for taking the time to research the statistics. Without that time and effort the community would NOT know how truly bad the GF community is.
Anarchist, level 60 CW
Arsenic, level 60 TR
Pluck Yew, level 60 HR
Therapissed, level 60 DC
^^^
Thx HAMSTER but that can't change the fact that,they are Gfs around that sing the same song all over again and again:
"Devs ,buff us but not too much we are fine in pvp".I see that no matter what we say and we do ,a small number of GFs,all is hopeless.
Honestly I am starting losing courage.I see the different treatment GF and GWF have from devs.GWF with bugged DG runs rampant for 4 months,then they fix the feat and also buff Destro damage by a 40%.GWFs cry at preview forum so they increase Destroyers Purpose by another 20%.
Gfs countless threads no response.After months a dev show up to say that our problem is that we don't get enough healing while we have shield up....
Then i fought some pvp specced destros in pug matches.Roar me while i was in Villain's Menace mod.Stunned and then proned and then dead.
Went in one vs one against them ,block their prones for 3-4 times ,i get one IBS hit,minus 28k hp.No balance at all.Me in rank8s he in rank7s.Where is the class balance?Where is the skill?
Then i fought the new paragon of HR in dom matches.The enemy team had an EoA HR.I had a backpack on me the entire game.As i was going on elementary's school excursion.WTF is this?
GF "buffs" ,if indeed will be buffs ,are not in sight ,at least after 4-5 months of Mod 4 release.We are talking about december or early 2015.At that time none GF will be around any more.At least the new Gfs will get some benefit(?).
^^^^
Situation is dramatic.Yesterday i went to the heroic Karru in DD.Passed every loot out of boredom.None takes me in epic lol.:eek:
We get owned, no defense possible, by 3 classes. Permastealths with permadodge, 100% encounters & Dailies wasted for more than 50 sec. HR, king of mobility, you cannot block, if you do you get rooted, then warp back to starting point for a few seconds, bym you're dead. GWF just kills us in 2 shots since last "nerf".
Great job. GF while still better than CW in pvp is useless in 1 v 1.
We can handle some DCs, and some CWs. That's it.
For a "tank", seeing permastealths and GWFs with more hps than us strikes me as totally weird too.