I don't know why did you removed the "votekick" from PVP. Just put it back, that way, the "afk'ers" can be punished "in-game" and not allow them to get their dailies "for free"...
I can see soo many ways it can be abused. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong but, if you kick a teammate then you will have to carry on that match with just 4 players.
I'd rather talk some manners to the afk guy instead, while standing and waiting for the match to end, lol.
BUT I have a different perspective on disconnected players. I often have a dc'ed guy at first 5 mins of the match.. which kinda makes the match very one sided and pointless. It would be so much convenient if the pvp system was designed to remove players that are disconnected for say.. more then 5-10 mins, and replace - give chance to the teams and a little more fairity to already disbalanced pvp.
The party leader can kick players who are marked as disconnected, but if it's not in the first minute or 2 of the match they won't be replaced. I always wait a minute or 2 and then kick them, because some people do this intentionally on multiple characters and then try and return before the end of the match to get credit for their daily.
Just make it an autokick after one minute idle. Like after one minute pops out a captcha window: answer=clear, don't answer=kick.
Captchas window works, back in Mabinogi they were a good countermeasure against bots.
THEN apply bonus to the rest of the team to compensate for the loss of the team member. Be it Lifesteal, Regen, Defense, Power, Deflect (not Crit, though), all mixed together or just defending boost or just attacking boost.
Too easy to be abused so it will be. No thanks. Join a group to PvP with if you don't like pug'n it.
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doriangreighMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 707Arc User
edited May 2014
I will sit at the campfire if its a complete floor stomp of a match, I don't feel like racing out just to die in 2 seconds and all i'm doing is feeding someones ego or lining someone elses pocket with glory, if I get floor stomped and get 0 reward then why bother running out to die? Just hang out get my daily and leave. Its not my fault the game doesn't offer incentive to keep playing against ridiculous odds. Now if my glory counter ticked up every time I lasted 5 seconds outside of camp i'd give it a shot at running out and doing something. But as it is I have had many matches that give 0 reward (prior to the tenacity BS and patch I used to get 100+ glory at least which is better than nothing and was enough to keep me going or trying).
If they change the rewards so that even if I get floor stomped and can't last 2 seconds outside of the campfire then i'll run out with the rest of the lemmings until then i'm sitting at camp. Unless the opposing team at least offers or accepts 1v1 which I pretty much never see anymore.
As to kicking from party yeah I have agree it doesn't work very well as like others have said too much room for abuse. Seems like I remember being able to kick people before but recently I remember there was a guy on my time cussing out all of us (TR who was doing nothing but standing on a node and cussing out the rest of the team that was actually fighting) I wanted to kick him from group so bad, i'd rather do 4v5 than listen or read someone's abuse to teammates, don't care how bad he thinks they are.
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doriangreighMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 707Arc User
edited May 2014
Maybe there should be a flat glory reward, 500 for the win 250 for losing. Then of course there are bonus rewards based on assists kills caps or maybe just surviving.
actually the ability to kick from party in pvp only applies if a person disconnects from the game before it starts. i know this bc ive done it before. id rather there be a limit to the amount of kicks ppl can do in dungeons. ive seen ppl get kicked and rejoin right after they were kicked and got kicked right again. its wrong and should be handled
People will just abuse the function as they already do in dungeons. PUGs already have enough issues, they don't need people going around trolling games as well kicking everyone in sight.
Think about it for a moment. I go get 2 friends and we group together. We kick either 1 or both the pugs that join up with us and then just sit the match out. Now 2 people just got kicked for no real reason, the other team now also can't have a match cause we are sitting out, and on top of it all the other team can't leave without a 30 minute penalty.
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I'd rather talk some manners to the afk guy instead, while standing and waiting for the match to end, lol.
BUT I have a different perspective on disconnected players. I often have a dc'ed guy at first 5 mins of the match.. which kinda makes the match very one sided and pointless. It would be so much convenient if the pvp system was designed to remove players that are disconnected for say.. more then 5-10 mins, and replace - give chance to the teams and a little more fairity to already disbalanced pvp.
Captchas window works, back in Mabinogi they were a good countermeasure against bots.
THEN apply bonus to the rest of the team to compensate for the loss of the team member. Be it Lifesteal, Regen, Defense, Power, Deflect (not Crit, though), all mixed together or just defending boost or just attacking boost.
If they change the rewards so that even if I get floor stomped and can't last 2 seconds outside of the campfire then i'll run out with the rest of the lemmings until then i'm sitting at camp. Unless the opposing team at least offers or accepts 1v1 which I pretty much never see anymore.
As to kicking from party yeah I have agree it doesn't work very well as like others have said too much room for abuse. Seems like I remember being able to kick people before but recently I remember there was a guy on my time cussing out all of us (TR who was doing nothing but standing on a node and cussing out the rest of the team that was actually fighting) I wanted to kick him from group so bad, i'd rather do 4v5 than listen or read someone's abuse to teammates, don't care how bad he thinks they are.
Think about it for a moment. I go get 2 friends and we group together. We kick either 1 or both the pugs that join up with us and then just sit the match out. Now 2 people just got kicked for no real reason, the other team now also can't have a match cause we are sitting out, and on top of it all the other team can't leave without a 30 minute penalty.
And the positives of kicking would be?